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2ilvia · 05-26-2007, 10:11 AM

hey i want to know what the biggest smic is out there. i dont care if its from a dsm or nissan or audi i just need the biggest one something that can support 300hp. if possible

93s13coupe · 05-26-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ilvia

hey i want to know what the biggest smic is out there. i dont care if its from a dsm or nissan or audi i just need the biggest one something that can support 300hp. if possible

i dont know if it will hold that much but im about to try a vr4 smic for my kat, i know its bigger than the stock sr's

rican_nick · 05-26-2007, 10:26 AM

my buddy's 3rd gen mr2 is roughly in the 300hp range.. he has a greddy core on it, it's pretty massive. So aftermarket mr2 IC's may be an option for ya.

sr20boostn20 · 05-26-2007, 10:39 AM

one of my friends is running dual side mounts form a 3000gt, in his dsm, w/ a gt30 turbo

AdamP · 05-26-2007, 10:57 AM

You can also go with a hybrid design. A front mount intercooler which utilizes the stock charge piping. Not quite as efficient as a true front mount but definately an improvement over SMIC.

ser20det · 05-26-2007, 11:00 AM

ARC smic hold 300hp but $$$.And right now there a hks smic on ebay for 150$.

methodofpayment · 05-26-2007, 11:25 AM

s15 sidemount

superJoy · 05-26-2007, 12:52 PM

ARC side-mount's are supposedly rated at 300hp. In order to squeeze the most effiency out of a SMIC (hell, anything ATA for that matter), you need a proper duct to create a high pressure zone in front of the intercooler. The manufacturer probably takes this consideration into effect when rating a cooler for a specific power output, so you should as well.

Here's my ARC intercooler installed, which was fortunately found on eBay to the tune of $115 shipped:

As you can see, this specific model mounts at angle, reducing the length of the charge pipes to and from the cooler. However, this makes it even more essential to have a duct, lest the cooler do absolutely nothing due to the prohibitive nature of mounting the I/C this way.

shift_drift · 05-27-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by superJoy

ARC side-mount's are supposedly rated at 300hp. In order to squeeze the most effiency out of a SMIC (hell, anything ATA for that matter), you need a proper duct to create a high pressure zone in front of the intercooler. The manufacturer probably takes this consideration into effect when rating a cooler for a specific power output, so you should as well.

Here's my ARC intercooler installed, which was fortunately found on eBay to the tune of $115 shipped:

As you can see, this specific model mounts at angle, reducing the length of the charge pipes to and from the cooler. However, this makes it even more essential to have a duct, lest the cooler do absolutely nothing due to the prohibitive nature of mounting the I/C this way.

you wouldn't happen to have the dimensions for that ic handy would you? I have a dsm sidemount sitting around and its pretty damn big, and my power goals are around 300hp so if I could get away with using that it'd be alot cheaper.

2ilvia · 05-26-2007, 12:59 PM

how good is the s15 smic

turboeic · 05-26-2007, 01:17 PM

well a 3000gt upgrade for sidemounts is a gs-t side mount.

methodofpayment · 05-26-2007, 01:37 PM

almost about the same size as a arc sidemount.

topbro2 · 05-26-2007, 09:42 PM

so could i push 300 out of it?

turboeic · 05-27-2007, 12:50 AM

well a 300gt vr4 stock has 300hp to the crank. My nephew is pushing 380awhp and he is still using his stock ones. so yes they will.

nlzmo400r · 05-27-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by turboeic

well a 300gt vr4 stock has 300hp to the crank. My nephew is pushing 380awhp and he is still using his stock ones. so yes they will.

sure they'll hold the power, but id imagine he'd hit more than 400whp if he got an effecient larger fmic.

turboeic · 05-27-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nlzmo400r

sure they'll hold the power, but id imagine he'd hit more than 400whp if he got an effecient larger fmic.

pretty sure he could but the guy asked if the smic can hold the power. Oh BTW the vr4 has 2 SMIC so all the power is not on 1 but 2. so 1 might not hold 300hp

98koukile · 05-27-2007, 10:02 AM

There's an arc for the rb25 on ebay right now $340 shipped. Not a deal like superjoys but its clean, real clean

Dousan_PG · 05-27-2007, 12:43 PM

iirc late model supras are pretty darn big

Dr. Moreau · 05-27-2007, 12:46 PM

tt supra smic is pretty huge. in fact it won't even fit on the side b/w the fender and body cause its that big. pretty sure they can handle more than 350 hp.

street240 · 05-27-2007, 07:16 PM

I know for a fact mk4 supra side mounts will take you to 300

Omarius Maximus · 05-27-2007, 07:38 PM

Thats a boostfactory smic for a 1.8t GTI. It uses a bell core and is capable of flowing well over 350hp. Just to give you an idea, its 6 inches deep. Talk to the guys at boost factory, they do VW mostly, but I'm sure if there is enough interest, they can make you a custom setup. The one pictured costs 550. BUT its quality.

http://www.tyrolsport.com/sidemount.htm <<<this is a pretty good comparison of FMIC and SMICs, and how a SMIC can be just as good as a FMIC. I have the tyrolsport, and It works amazing on my GTI, I'm sure a decent SMIC will work well on any setup. BTW, pushing 20 psi on a tiny turbo isn't too great for IATs, but I can't get my smic to heatsoak.

05-26-2007, 10:11 AM	#1
2ilvia Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: norhio Posts: 627 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	SMIC bigness hey i want to know what the biggest smic is out there. i dont care if its from a dsm or nissan or audi i just need the biggest one something that can support 300hp. if possible

05-26-2007, 10:26 AM	#3
rican_nick Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 42 Posts: 1,204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my buddy's 3rd gen mr2 is roughly in the 300hp range.. he has a greddy core on it, it's pretty massive. So aftermarket mr2 IC's may be an option for ya. __________________ Nick O. 97 240sx My Seller's Review Thread

05-26-2007, 11:25 AM	#7
methodofpayment Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: So. Cal 818 Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	s15 sidemount __________________

05-26-2007, 01:37 PM	#12
methodofpayment Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: So. Cal 818 Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	almost about the same size as a arc sidemount. __________________

05-26-2007, 09:42 PM	#13
topbro2 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bluffton Ohio Age: 35 Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so could i push 300 out of it? __________________ My 92 240sx is for sale 1700

05-26-2007, 10:39 AM	#4
sr20boostn20 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lake Tahoe, CA/ LI NY Age: 38 Posts: 425 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	one of my friends is running dual side mounts form a 3000gt, in his dsm, w/ a gt30 turbo

05-26-2007, 10:57 AM	#5
AdamP Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 39 Posts: 50 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You can also go with a hybrid design. A front mount intercooler which utilizes the stock charge piping. Not quite as efficient as a true front mount but definately an improvement over SMIC.

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ser20det Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MTL, CANADA Age: 38 Posts: 19 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ARC smic hold 300hp but $$$.And right now there a hks smic on ebay for 150$.

05-26-2007, 12:52 PM	#8
superJoy Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Detroit Posts: 142 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ARC side-mount's are supposedly rated at 300hp. In order to squeeze the most effiency out of a SMIC (hell, anything ATA for that matter), you need a proper duct to create a high pressure zone in front of the intercooler. The manufacturer probably takes this consideration into effect when rating a cooler for a specific power output, so you should as well. Here's my ARC intercooler installed, which was fortunately found on eBay to the tune of $115 shipped: As you can see, this specific model mounts at angle, reducing the length of the charge pipes to and from the cooler. However, this makes it even more essential to have a duct, lest the cooler do absolutely nothing due to the prohibitive nature of mounting the I/C this way.

05-26-2007, 12:59 PM	#10
2ilvia Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: norhio Posts: 627 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	how good is the s15 smic

05-26-2007, 01:17 PM	#11
turboeic Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Azusa Age: 35 Posts: 320 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	well a 3000gt upgrade for sidemounts is a gs-t side mount.

05-27-2007, 12:50 AM	#14
turboeic Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Azusa Age: 35 Posts: 320 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	well a 300gt vr4 stock has 300hp to the crank. My nephew is pushing 380awhp and he is still using his stock ones. so yes they will.

05-27-2007, 10:02 AM	#17
98koukile Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Mass Age: 38 Posts: 949 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	There's an arc for the rb25 on ebay right now $340 shipped. Not a deal like superjoys but its clean, real clean __________________ Just talking about cars, one at a time Horsepower sells cars torque wins races -Shelby

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Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	iirc late model supras are pretty darn big __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-27-2007, 12:46 PM	#19
Dr. Moreau Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: La Place, LA Age: 39 Posts: 223 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	tt supra smic is pretty huge. in fact it won't even fit on the side b/w the fender and body cause its that big. pretty sure they can handle more than 350 hp. __________________ Squirrel '91 240SX Hatch Redtop SR since March 2006

05-27-2007, 07:16 PM	#20
street240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rapid Posts: 502 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know for a fact mk4 supra side mounts will take you to 300 __________________ The Gallo 24 would be a better motor for my skyline...But I am waiting on the swap dvd...

05-27-2007, 07:38 PM	#21
Omarius Maximus Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 564 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thats a boostfactory smic for a 1.8t GTI. It uses a bell core and is capable of flowing well over 350hp. Just to give you an idea, its 6 inches deep. Talk to the guys at boost factory, they do VW mostly, but I'm sure if there is enough interest, they can make you a custom setup. The one pictured costs 550. BUT its quality. http://www.tyrolsport.com/sidemount.htm <<<this is a pretty good comparison of FMIC and SMICs, and how a SMIC can be just as good as a FMIC. I have the tyrolsport, and It works amazing on my GTI, I'm sure a decent SMIC will work well on any setup. BTW, pushing 20 psi on a tiny turbo isn't too great for IATs, but I can't get my smic to heatsoak.