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az_240 · 07-10-2007, 11:37 PM

Im prolly gona get flamed but I just spent the last hour going thru auto to 5 speed "write ups" and did not find a single one that was detailed step by step.

They are just parts lists and a overview of what needs to be done....

I want to know the best possible way to do this swap with detailed instructions on a obdII s14 not just a brief description.

I know they are out there.... plz help me find one.

Thanks

kouki_s14 · 07-10-2007, 11:43 PM

http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/s14_5speed_swap.htm

not detailed enough?

google works wonders
searched "s14 5 speed swap"
it was the first listing

viscid240 · 07-11-2007, 12:45 AM

I am sure fueled performance or our local forum members (az240sx.org) can help you out with this situation.

I will be doing this soon to my girls' s14 obdII as she is getting annoyed with the auto.

Vision Garage · 07-11-2007, 01:46 AM

From all the post scattered everywhere, you can probably be able to figure it out.

UNISA JECS · 07-11-2007, 01:56 AM

http://www.ka24development.com/cwilf...lectrical.html

CKAMC · 07-11-2007, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viscid240

I am sure fueled performance or our local forum members (az240sx.org) can help you out with this situation.

I will be doing this soon to my girls' s14 obdII as she is getting annoyed with the auto.

Fueled doesnt do too much work anymore... more of imported sales lately

There are plenty of east side members of the local forum that can help. Just post up if the second post is not enough info for you.

Phoenix_95 · 07-11-2007, 02:24 AM

240sxforums.com has a pretty good write up and should be all the help you will need.

az_240 · 07-11-2007, 03:05 AM

thanks guys....this is all the info I need.

I like how people say ohh go search google or go search another forum....
Why?

Why not make this forum better and make the info a little more easy to access so people dont have to go from one forum to the next or spend hours piecing together little bits of info...?

Either way I got what I posted for....thanks again for those that helped

JDS Performance · 07-11-2007, 04:50 AM

http://www.ka24detdvd.org/5SpeedSwapDVD.html

viscid240 · 07-11-2007, 05:31 AM

Reason I suggested an other forum/local was due to them actually being able to assist you in the swap or help with parts needed. So I was helping you out in that aspect, if you don't see it that way, then that is your right not to.

The main reason to why everyone informs you to search is that each and every post takes up server space and many choose to go the easy way out and ask and not look.

As for piecing up info, is totally up to you and take it for what it's worth. Some if not many of the times that is what you have to do in some instances. That info might not all be on one page, or on one site/forum. Possibly even outdated on some forums and lost or deleted.

On a side note glad you found what you are looking for. and good luck with the swap.

Hey, why not do your own detailed write up so you and many other people who have the same question you had can have it answered as well. With pics and parts number list,etc.

Edgar · 07-11-2007, 06:39 AM

I'm not a mechanic or anything and this shit really isnt that hard to do. I did it on my 93.

JesusFreakDrifter · 07-11-2007, 07:15 AM

i was able to do it on both of my 240s in sucession fairly easy using these write ups both on zilvia and www.240sxforums.com

**Phlip** · 07-11-2007, 07:21 AM

Good point, Edgar... The writeup we have here is not "hold your hands and comfort you in the middle of the night because there's monsters under your bed" in nature because it really isn't rocket surgery.

projectRDM · 07-11-2007, 08:18 AM

Agreed. If you know the difference between an automatic transmission and a manual one, you should have plenty of intellect to perform the swap without being spoonfed how to. There is no special hints, secrets, or tips that I can think of, just remove the auto parts, install the manual parts. It definitely is NOT rocket science, and does not need another thread where someone is bringing it up.

CKAMC · 07-11-2007, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHLIP

Good point, Edgar... The writeup we have here is not "hold your hands and comfort you in the middle of the night because there's monsters under your bed" in nature because it really isn't rocket surgery.

ZING!

but again you complain about everything.(OP)

az_240 · 07-11-2007, 04:07 PM

Some of us cant look at a car and know exactly what needs to be done and in what sequence.
With my luck trying to get into a 5 spd swap with that guide in the FAQ will end with me beating my car with a bat.

I got what I asked for...lets just leave it at that.

projectRDM · 07-11-2007, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by az_240

Some of us cant look at a car and know exactly what needs to be done and in what sequence.
With my luck trying to get into a 5 spd swap with that guide in the FAQ will end with me beating my car with a bat.

I got what I asked for...lets just leave it at that.

Hey, if you're willing to admit you're a fucking retard, +1 for you. On these forums you're lucky to find anyone humble enough to admit they don't know everything, and even more so willing to listen to other's advice. If you can come out of the closet and agree that your ignorance level is on par with a lawn chair, I'll happily agree to it.

Thank you for proving what I've argued all along, new comers to the 240SX don't know everything.

az_240 · 07-11-2007, 06:56 PM

O and what level are you on? You obviously think you are some sort of 240 god.
To me thats just someone who has no life

Just because someone needs more detailed info on how to do a 5 speed swap or more info to do anything on any car for that matter does not make them dumb as a lawn chair. I appreciate the fact the person is willing to learn and do the work themselves instead of being a lazy ass and paying someone else to do the work.

And no you are not a 240 god... No matter what there will always be someone better than you in anything you can think of.

unicoladron · 07-11-2007, 07:21 PM

there are currently 2 different "kits" available on ebay for the swap:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissa...spagenameZWDVW

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/USDM-...spagenameZWDVW

obviously these are different in price and what is included: they both include necessary components, but are not complete kits.

i'm planning on doing the swap on my 93. i have the following:

clutch pedal assy (you can find used, or junkyard)
brake pedal assy (you can cut your pedal, but i opted to go to a junkyard)
master cylinder (you can buy new oem, or junkyard)
slave cylinder (you can buy new oem, or junkyard)
clutch line (i almost shit myself when i found this beautiful piece from agency power and bought it without a flinch)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Agenc...1163QQtcZphoto

on the AT 240sx chassis, there are already provisions for the clutch pedal bolts/studs and the master cylinder. you smiply need to drill these.

you CANNOT reuse your AT driveshaft, and i'm not sure if you can use the AT speedo sensor on your MT gearbox.

mind you that all of the information i provided is assuming you are doing an SR20DET swap like myself.

i gathered this information from the various forums found using google, plus i looked at a front clip, and saw with my own eyes the provisions for the clutch pedal on my AT chassis.

az_240 · 07-11-2007, 07:29 PM

o wow... see R24 NOW would be a good time for you to start your "witty" remarks

unicoladron · 07-11-2007, 07:59 PM

umm..wait...i replied to your posting with some pretty decent information and you make a wise crack...

just man-up, stop whining, read, spend a couple bucks, and go get your hands dirty.

**Phlip** · 07-11-2007, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unicoladron

umm..wait...i replied to your posting with some pretty decent information and you make a wise crack...

just man-up, stop whining, read, spend a couple bucks, and go get your hands dirty.

Actually, he was continuing a worthless attempt at making a quip back at someone who had responded earlier in the thread who explained that anyone with a little to intermediate amount of mechanical knowledge, some time and tools could figure out what needed to be done with the information that had been provided to that point.
... but he needed comfort that there were not a group of big guys waiting to rape him in the ass as he left his apartment for school on Monday morning. Or the equivalent, housed in a step by fucking step writeup.
He ignored that Russ (R240NA) just happens to be the most knowledgeable 240SX driver/owner/enthusiast that any of us could ever get used to getting 3am drunken text/voice messages from. He also ignored the fact that Zilvia often teaches through the magic of "tough fuckin' love," where the question-asker is hazed into finding the answer instead of answering it, kinda like a female dog will be mean to her own pups to get them on solid food... Odd metaphor, I know, but those that get it get it.
No worries, I neg repped him for being a douche, but he was not responding to you.

Gnnr · 07-12-2007, 01:52 AM

Here's one that was posted in the Tech section a few months ago with pictures.

S14 Auto-> Manual with pics
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=133035

SimpleS14 · 07-12-2007, 06:52 AM

gawd....can we just let this thread die now?

I was thinking about making a write-up (simliar to that of my kouki conversion)..but its really straight forward once you have the parts, tools and car right in front of you. The only info that is not straight forward is the wiring, but lucky that has been documented.

viscid240 · 07-12-2007, 10:56 AM

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drewc87 · 08-21-2007, 10:27 AM

okay im almost done doing my swap on my s13. what will happen if i dont use the mt adapting plate and keep the auto plate?

drift freaq · 08-21-2007, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewc87

okay im almost done doing my swap on my s13. what will happen if i dont use the mt adapting plate and keep the auto plate?

you can do that. Its not ideal but you can make it work. If you do do that you need to bolt the auto trans lower half plate onto the bottom face of your bellhousing .

P.S. to AZ 240 I wrote that auto to 5 speed faq here and hundreds of people have actually done the swap from reading it. I have never had a whiny message saying I can't do it or I don't understand. Yes you seem to need your hand held , yes at least you admit it. Though its time to grow up son. If you do not have the mechanical knowledge to the swap based off my faq you should not even be getting near working on your own car.
So either take a auto tech course or get someone else to work on your car and stfu.

mods please lock this dumb ass thread.

**mrmephistopheles** · 08-21-2007, 10:48 AM

http://www.zilvia.net/f/forumdisplay.php?f=11

Third stuck thread. Way to look.

07-10-2007, 11:37 PM	#1
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	why no auto to 5 speed writeups???? Im prolly gona get flamed but I just spent the last hour going thru auto to 5 speed "write ups" and did not find a single one that was detailed step by step. They are just parts lists and a overview of what needs to be done.... I want to know the best possible way to do this swap with detailed instructions on a obdII s14 not just a brief description. I know they are out there.... plz help me find one. Thanks

07-11-2007, 01:46 AM	#4
Vision Garage Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USDM Land Posts: 1,799 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	From all the post scattered everywhere, you can probably be able to figure it out. __________________

07-11-2007, 01:56 AM	#5
UNISA JECS Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Socal Fontana Age: 46 Posts: 2,380 Trader Rating: (40) Feedback Score: 40 reviews	http://www.ka24development.com/cwilf...lectrical.html __________________ PARTS 4 SALE !! Z32 E-Brake/Parking Brake Heatshield Assemblys!!! *Rep/Feedbacks*

07-11-2007, 04:50 AM	#9
JDS Performance Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 3,127 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	http://www.ka24detdvd.org/5SpeedSwapDVD.html __________________ http://www.240SXTECHDVDS.org http://www.JDSPerformanceTurbos.com

07-11-2007, 06:39 AM	#11
Edgar Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Indianapolis,IN Posts: 4,980 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I'm not a mechanic or anything and this shit really isnt that hard to do. I did it on my 93. __________________ Drift Indy

07-10-2007, 11:43 PM	#2
kouki_s14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/s14_5speed_swap.htm not detailed enough? google works wonders searched "s14 5 speed swap" it was the first listing

07-11-2007, 12:45 AM	#3
viscid240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Only where the cactus strikes! Age: 42 Posts: 516 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am sure fueled performance or our local forum members (az240sx.org) can help you out with this situation. I will be doing this soon to my girls' s14 obdII as she is getting annoyed with the auto.

07-11-2007, 02:24 AM	#7
Phoenix_95 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Greenbrier TN Age: 40 Posts: 133 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	240sxforums.com has a pretty good write up and should be all the help you will need.

07-11-2007, 03:05 AM	#8
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	thanks guys....this is all the info I need. I like how people say ohh go search google or go search another forum.... Why? Why not make this forum better and make the info a little more easy to access so people dont have to go from one forum to the next or spend hours piecing together little bits of info...? Either way I got what I posted for....thanks again for those that helped

07-11-2007, 05:31 AM	#10
viscid240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Only where the cactus strikes! Age: 42 Posts: 516 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Reason I suggested an other forum/local was due to them actually being able to assist you in the swap or help with parts needed. So I was helping you out in that aspect, if you don't see it that way, then that is your right not to. The main reason to why everyone informs you to search is that each and every post takes up server space and many choose to go the easy way out and ask and not look. As for piecing up info, is totally up to you and take it for what it's worth. Some if not many of the times that is what you have to do in some instances. That info might not all be on one page, or on one site/forum. Possibly even outdated on some forums and lost or deleted. On a side note glad you found what you are looking for. and good luck with the swap. Hey, why not do your own detailed write up so you and many other people who have the same question you had can have it answered as well. With pics and parts number list,etc.

07-11-2007, 07:15 AM	#12
JesusFreakDrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: fort lauderdale Posts: 975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i was able to do it on both of my 240s in sucession fairly easy using these write ups both on zilvia and www.240sxforums.com

07-11-2007, 07:21 AM	#13
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Good point, Edgar... The writeup we have here is not "hold your hands and comfort you in the middle of the night because there's monsters under your bed" in nature because it really isn't rocket surgery. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

07-11-2007, 08:18 AM	#14
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Agreed. If you know the difference between an automatic transmission and a manual one, you should have plenty of intellect to perform the swap without being spoonfed how to. There is no special hints, secrets, or tips that I can think of, just remove the auto parts, install the manual parts. It definitely is NOT rocket science, and does not need another thread where someone is bringing it up. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

07-11-2007, 04:07 PM	#16
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	Some of us cant look at a car and know exactly what needs to be done and in what sequence. With my luck trying to get into a 5 spd swap with that guide in the FAQ will end with me beating my car with a bat. I got what I asked for...lets just leave it at that.

07-11-2007, 06:56 PM	#18
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	O and what level are you on? You obviously think you are some sort of 240 god. To me thats just someone who has no life Just because someone needs more detailed info on how to do a 5 speed swap or more info to do anything on any car for that matter does not make them dumb as a lawn chair. I appreciate the fact the person is willing to learn and do the work themselves instead of being a lazy ass and paying someone else to do the work. And no you are not a 240 god... No matter what there will always be someone better than you in anything you can think of.

07-11-2007, 07:21 PM	#19
unicoladron Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Long Island, NY Age: 40 Posts: 568 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	240 5 spd swap there are currently 2 different "kits" available on ebay for the swap: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissa...spagenameZWDVW and http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/USDM-...spagenameZWDVW obviously these are different in price and what is included: they both include necessary components, but are not complete kits. i'm planning on doing the swap on my 93. i have the following: clutch pedal assy (you can find used, or junkyard) brake pedal assy (you can cut your pedal, but i opted to go to a junkyard) master cylinder (you can buy new oem, or junkyard) slave cylinder (you can buy new oem, or junkyard) clutch line (i almost shit myself when i found this beautiful piece from agency power and bought it without a flinch) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Agenc...1163QQtcZphoto on the AT 240sx chassis, there are already provisions for the clutch pedal bolts/studs and the master cylinder. you smiply need to drill these. you CANNOT reuse your AT driveshaft, and i'm not sure if you can use the AT speedo sensor on your MT gearbox. mind you that all of the information i provided is assuming you are doing an SR20DET swap like myself. i gathered this information from the various forums found using google, plus i looked at a front clip, and saw with my own eyes the provisions for the clutch pedal on my AT chassis.

07-11-2007, 07:29 PM	#20
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	o wow... see R24 NOW would be a good time for you to start your "witty" remarks

07-11-2007, 07:59 PM	#21
unicoladron Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Long Island, NY Age: 40 Posts: 568 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^-- ? umm..wait...i replied to your posting with some pretty decent information and you make a wise crack... just man-up, stop whining, read, spend a couple bucks, and go get your hands dirty.

07-12-2007, 01:52 AM	#23
Gnnr Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S. FL Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here's one that was posted in the Tech section a few months ago with pictures. S14 Auto-> Manual with pics http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=133035 __________________

07-12-2007, 06:52 AM	#24
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 42 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	gawd....can we just let this thread die now? I was thinking about making a write-up (simliar to that of my kouki conversion)..but its really straight forward once you have the parts, tools and car right in front of you. The only info that is not straight forward is the wiring, but lucky that has been documented. __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

07-12-2007, 10:56 AM	#25
viscid240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Only where the cactus strikes! Age: 42 Posts: 516 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	12345678909876543210

08-21-2007, 10:27 AM	#26
drewc87 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: lansdale Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	okay im almost done doing my swap on my s13. what will happen if i dont use the mt adapting plate and keep the auto plate?