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*DSC* · 10-02-2002, 10:19 PM

Tie Rod's

T/C Rod's

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Tie rod's
I'm ordering MOOG Tie rod ends from PDM-Racing this week. Any tips on installing them or removing the old ones?

T/C rod's
I already have new bushings for these and plan to press them in with a big vice grip, some peices of wood and a lot of greese. What I need is how to get the old ones out. Both the t/c rod off the car w/out breaking/stripping the bolt (tips??) and how to remove the old bushing. On the removal, I'm hoping to burn it out but I'm not sure how.

Archangel · 10-03-2002, 12:24 AM

I've never done it myself, but I've heard you just burn them out with a blowtorch.  Make sure you use the torch evenly, and sparingly as you don't want to melt or warp anything.
Hope that's helpful.

Yoshi · 10-03-2002, 10:55 AM

make sure you have $ to get your alignment done after your chage the tierods ends, the MOOGs are a little bit longer (or was it shorter?) than stock... either way, you can't keep the jamming nut where it was stock, so it's guestimating to get it right w/o all the equipment to do alignments.

Good luck with the T/C rod bushings, I didn't bother with messing with a bearing press (seriously, you'll need the luck), I just got whole new rods w/bushings already mounted.

edit: I just remembered, be REALLY carefull not to push on the centerpiece (steel tube in the middle) too hard, or it'll tearr the rubber of the bushing, Also, don't use the vice grips in the outer ring as it bends pretty easy and will also break the seal.

bbp · 10-03-2002, 12:30 PM

Tie Rods- Pull the cotter pin, loosen the nut.  If you plan on resusing (which your not) you can leave the nut threaded a few threads to protect it.  Get your BFH (big fucking hammer).  While lifting or pushing on the tie rod (whichever way it will come out) whack the collar on the knuckle where the ball joint passes thru.  Need to hit it square on and pretty hard.  The ball joint will pop out of place.  Don't miss.

The TC rod you can burn it out and the CAREFULLY cut the outer race out, or use a press and press the old one out.  It's a pain in the ass.  The new ones press in relatively easy, can be done on a bench vise.

DSC _ Whatever happened with your crazy brake noise you posted a few weeks ago?

mrdirty · 10-03-2002, 08:53 PM

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seriously though, we went thru this process when I pressed in my t/c bushings.... it was a while back though, and quite a pain in the ass...

edit:
screw it, I couldn't get the search to work either so I'll summarize the t/c's:
-remove the old ones any way possible (I cut the bolts 'cause they were siezed real good.)
-burn the old bushings out w/ a torch and some patience.
-cut out the metal sleeve from the inside of the rod
-lube the inside of the rod real good
-press those suckers in.

Do remove the inner metal cylinder though...and toss it.

uiuc240 · 10-04-2002, 10:27 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ Oct. 02 2002,11:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm ordering MOOG Tie rod ends from PDM-Racing this week.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Just FYI, but MOOG is available nationally from many places...Car-Quest mainly.  Some Autozone, Pep Boys, Parts Express, too.  I got all my MOOG parts from Car-Quest.  No reason to pay for shipping and handling from Canada for these things.

Oh, and I just had mine installed by the alignment shop.

Eric

Natty · 10-04-2002, 07:04 PM

Man, I thought mine were ozzing. I guess they weren't!
Find a porno store and buy some astrolube. hell, it was invented by NASA.
Jeff

*sykikchimp* · 10-04-2002, 11:09 PM

A nice option is to get pillow ball t/c rods too.  this was an impressive upgrade for me (going from blow oem stuff)  No idea how much better (if any) than the poly ones would be.

mrdirty · 10-06-2002, 12:59 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Natty @ Oct. 04 2002,8:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Man, I thought mine were ozzing. I guess they weren't!
Find a porno store and buy some astrolube. hell, it was invented by NASA.
Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
The reason I suggested astroglide way back when was that u can pick it up at any drugstore, is non reactive and slippery as hell.

10-02-2002, 10:19 PM	#1
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Tie Rod's T/C Rod's Click here for the full list of pics. Tie rod's I'm ordering MOOG Tie rod ends from PDM-Racing this week. Any tips on installing them or removing the old ones? T/C rod's I already have new bushings for these and plan to press them in with a big vice grip, some peices of wood and a lot of greese. What I need is how to get the old ones out. Both the t/c rod off the car w/out breaking/stripping the bolt (tips??) and how to remove the old bushing. On the removal, I'm hoping to burn it out but I'm not sure how. __________________

10-03-2002, 12:24 AM	#2
Archangel Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 425 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've never done it myself, but I've heard you just burn them out with a blowtorch.  Make sure you use the torch evenly, and sparingly as you don't want to melt or warp anything. Hope that's helpful. __________________ White 98 s14

10-03-2002, 10:55 AM	#3
Yoshi Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Washington Age: 48 Posts: 3,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Yoshi Feedback Score: 1 reviews	make sure you have $ to get your alignment done after your chage the tierods ends, the MOOGs are a little bit longer (or was it shorter?) than stock... either way, you can't keep the jamming nut where it was stock, so it's guestimating to get it right w/o all the equipment to do alignments. Good luck with the T/C rod bushings, I didn't bother with messing with a bearing press (seriously, you'll need the luck), I just got whole new rods w/bushings already mounted. edit: I just remembered, be REALLY carefull not to push on the centerpiece (steel tube in the middle) too hard, or it'll tearr the rubber of the bushing, Also, don't use the vice grips in the outer ring as it bends pretty easy and will also break the seal. __________________ www.360realms.com/S13-S15

10-03-2002, 12:30 PM	#4
bbp Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: oHIo Age: 53 Posts: 477 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Tie Rods- Pull the cotter pin, loosen the nut.  If you plan on resusing (which your not) you can leave the nut threaded a few threads to protect it.  Get your BFH (big fucking hammer).  While lifting or pushing on the tie rod (whichever way it will come out) whack the collar on the knuckle where the ball joint passes thru.  Need to hit it square on and pretty hard.  The ball joint will pop out of place.  Don't miss. The TC rod you can burn it out and the CAREFULLY cut the outer race out, or use a press and press the old one out.  It's a pain in the ass.  The new ones press in relatively easy, can be done on a bench vise. DSC _ Whatever happened with your crazy brake noise you posted a few weeks ago? __________________

10-03-2002, 08:53 PM	#5
mrdirty Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Age: 47 Posts: 650 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	/grins maniacally as he prepares to tell a mod to use search.../ <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> seriously though, we went thru this process when I pressed in my t/c bushings.... it was a while back though, and quite a pain in the ass... edit: screw it, I couldn't get the search to work either so I'll summarize the t/c's: -remove the old ones any way possible (I cut the bolts 'cause they were siezed real good.) -burn the old bushings out w/ a torch and some patience. -cut out the metal sleeve from the inside of the rod -lube the inside of the rod real good -press those suckers in. Do remove the inner metal cylinder though...and toss it.

10-04-2002, 10:27 AM	#6
uiuc240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Age: 46 Posts: 2,093 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DSC @ Oct. 02 2002,11:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm ordering MOOG Tie rod ends from PDM-Racing this week.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Just FYI, but MOOG is available nationally from many places...Car-Quest mainly.  Some Autozone, Pep Boys, Parts Express, too.  I got all my MOOG parts from Car-Quest.  No reason to pay for shipping and handling from Canada for these things. Oh, and I just had mine installed by the alignment shop. Eric __________________ 2002 Mazda Protege5 1989 S13 w/SR20DET (sold)

10-04-2002, 07:04 PM	#7
Natty Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man, I thought mine were ozzing. I guess they weren't! Find a porno store and buy some astrolube. hell, it was invented by NASA. Jeff __________________ 1991 White 240sx Fastback LE, rusty spoiler, weak driveshaft, exhaust rattle.... Rattles are just your cars way of saying 'I love you.'

10-04-2002, 11:09 PM	#8
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A nice option is to get pillow ball t/c rods too.  this was an impressive upgrade for me (going from blow oem stuff)  No idea how much better (if any) than the poly ones would be. __________________

10-06-2002, 12:59 PM	#9
mrdirty Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Age: 47 Posts: 650 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Natty @ Oct. 04 2002,8:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Man, I thought mine were ozzing. I guess they weren't! Find a porno store and buy some astrolube. hell, it was invented by NASA. Jeff</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> The reason I suggested astroglide way back when was that u can pick it up at any drugstore, is non reactive and slippery as hell.