hid question

do people still buy this cheap shit, even after its been said time after time that these systems are flawed and DONT perform for shit?

jesus. i thought people actually listened when i spoke about optics and having a nice, smooth lighting pattern.

mount those ballasts wherever they are safe, secure, and easily accessible.

i say easily accessible because hopefully after you INSTALL them, you'll reconsider and UNINSTALL them once the fanboy fad wears off. by then, you'll realize that you can get better performance from a pair of 40-60 dollar name-brand bulbs than you can out of that.

literally, you dont know how many kits like that ive pulled OFF of cars that come through my shop. they're dog turd.

you know, i am sure some of you guys are saying right now "wtf mike, why so negative..? poor guy just dropped some coin for his new hid kit, y0.. let him enjoy that shit"

okay, fine.. fair enough. just do me the favor. i look at the box, the kit.. the components and user manual and say to myself "wow, it looks like an actual product that should perform, right?" well.. lets see. do me a favor, just some common sense here:

1) lets start with the photo on the box. it kinda looks like a car, but its not. looks more like a rendering. thats odd.

2) xenith xenon. xenith??? is that a name? is that even a real manufacturer, or are they just thinking of random shit nowadays?

3) compare your stock H4 bulb with the ones they include. your stock bulb has 2 filaments that are precisely located where they should be. there is also a small shield that covers a section of the OE H4 bulb.

this H4 HID rebased piece of trash doesnt have a shield, doesnt even have a high low functionality. its a flawed product, and it will never be able to compete with the OE h4 design.

4) please read through the user manual. if there is anything in there that even makes any sense, then fine. but chances are, its a bunch of bullshit that doesnt even make sense.

more reading here: http://clearcorners.com/services/0002/

cheers

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

do people still buy this cheap shit, even after its been said time after time that these systems are flawed and DONT perform for shit?

jesus. i thought people actually listened when i spoke about optics and having a nice, smooth lighting pattern.

mount those ballasts wherever they are safe, secure, and easily accessible.

i say easily accessible because hopefully after you INSTALL them, you'll reconsider and UNINSTALL them once the fanboy fad wears off. by then, you'll realize that you can get better performance from a pair of 40-60 dollar name-brand bulbs than you can out of that.

literally, you dont know how many kits like that ive pulled OFF of cars that come through my shop. they're dog turd.

i thonk i just got owned!

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Originally Posted by nismornr

i thonk i just got owned!

nah, you didnt.

Chances are, these will produce more light, but heres the catch..

Most of these HID kits being pumped out of whatver sweatshop they were made at do not include a scatter shield/casper shield..thus causing tremendous glare. I've driven many a car with a kit like that..as far as light OUTPUT..they lit up the road very well, but I felt sorry for anyone coming the opposite direction.

My advice to you is to do what makes you happy. If you want lights like that...thats fine by all means. Personally, I advocate the correct way to do it...RETROFIT. My old Integra had a s2000 retrofit, functioning high and low beams with a PERFECT cutoff line. They were awesome to say the least. I've never seen or performed, or even know if its possible to do so on an s13 popup headlight, though. I havnt played around with the 240sx H4 housings enough to create an effective way to do it.

Originally Posted by t . b o z

Most of these HID kits being pumped out of whatver sweatshop they were made at do not include a scatter shield/casper shield..thus causing tremendous glare.

Doesnt that make you wonder for a sec and say to yourself "hmmm.. if these brand-x products are being made, god knows where, then what type of engineering and quality control goes into these products?" Maybe its just me, but I believe in large companies having the facilities to perform proper R&D, strict manufacturing tolerances, quality control, etc. Not to mention, actually being able to deal with the vendor should there be problems.

The cutoff (or casper shields as they are often referred to) are just a hokey patch-fix attempt to try to make an inferior product LESS inferior. It doesnt solve the problem nor does it make it a quality product. Its much like having a pillow made from a big PILE of shit. Just because you put the pillow in a plastic bag and it doesnt smell anymore, doesnt mean that you arent resting your head on feces....


I've driven many a car with a kit like that..as far as light OUTPUT..they lit up the road very well, but I felt sorry for anyone coming the opposite direction.

What good is power without perception? What good is a car with 1000HP but no control? Same applies to lighting, proper light distribution is key.


My advice to you is to do what makes you happy.

Or do what is safe and actually performs. You dont have to spend big bucks. In this case, you could've spent less and gotten a LOT more.

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

Doesnt that make you wonder for a sec and say to yourself "hmmm.. if these brand-x products are being made, god knows where, then what type of engineering and quality control goes into these products?" Maybe its just me, but I believe in large companies having the facilities to perform proper R&D, strict manufacturing tolerances, quality control, etc. Not to mention, actually being able to deal with the vendor should there be problems.

The cutoff (or casper shields as they are often referred to) are just a hokey patch-fix attempt to try to make an inferior product LESS inferior. It doesnt solve the problem nor does it make it a quality product. Its much like having a pillow made from a big PILE of shit. Just because you put the pillow in a plastic bag and it doesnt smell anymore, doesnt mean that you arent resting your head on feces....


I've driven many a car with a kit like that..as far as light OUTPUT..they lit up the road very well, but I felt sorry for anyone coming the opposite direction.

What good is power without perception? What good is a car with 1000HP but no control? Same applies to lighting, proper light distribution is key.


My advice to you is to do what makes you happy.

Or do what is safe and actually performs. You dont have to spend big bucks. In this case, you could've spent less and gotten a LOT more.

To be honest, I don't really give a shit as to where the HID kits come from. If you want to play that game, dont wear any of your clothes, becuase chances are, some poor Malaysian or Taiwanese child made them for six cents and hour. Labor outsourcing dominates the workforce, at this day and age, it would be stupid not to.

"What good is power without perception? What good is a car with 1000HP but no control? Same applies to lighting, proper light distribution is key."

Um..well, when you look out that thing called a windshield, and you can see very well ahead of you, and don't notice any "dead spots" in the lit area, I would see that the road and surrounding areas are preety well lit. Now, for safety's sake, a glare guard would be nice, to get a good cutoff. The last thing you would want is a passerbyer careening into your vehicle headon becuase they couldn't see shit.

It seems that you are more bothered by the box itself with the generic name and logos than you are the actual product, becuase you really can't give this guy a exact answer as to why these products are inferior...other than the obvious.(i.e. made in a faraway land for dirt).