Opinion: MKIV N/A Supra or keep current S14?

[alexkosheck]

I've been thinking of trading in+cash my 1996 S14 5spd for a MKIV 1993+ Toyota Supra N/A 5spd

My car is still with the KA24DE engine 5spd (it's my daily) but I have it set up completely perfect for my taste (coilovers, brakes, minor mods, wheels, tires. Enjoyable and slightly sporty for daily)

Has anyone every driven a N/A MKIV Supra to compare to an S14?
How does it feel? Better? Worse? Faster by a lot?

I know the Supra is heavier, but has a bit more power.
I don't have enough $$ for a Turbo, also cuz I have to save $$ for the future.
The main reason why is because the Supra looks better.
But most likely it will be older than my 96.

Any thoughts or educated opinions would be appreciated.
Thx in advance.

[300hp owen]

do it up, theyre great cars if you can find a clean one.
IMHO too many supras have been riced out and have their interiors all painted goofy style matching the outside of the car or with some stupid aero.
they are gorgeous and handle really well with the right mods, kind of underpowered without boost but still a fun car for sure.
they have incredible resale too.
you really gotta drive one!!!!!!!!

[Sidewayzzz]

1) Trade it!
2) Swap it! (2jz-gte)
3) ????????
4) Profit!

[240sx_sr20det]

Any pictures of the cars?

[Full-Lock]

i would do it depending on how much cash.

it would be a cool daily driver. i wouldnt get into modding it much unless you did 2jz tt motor. other than that i'd just buy it because it looks sort of exotic and girls would like them.

haha

[LB.Motoring]

Id do it like no tommaro.

buy the supra, and enjoy driving an under-powered fucking paperweight.

keep your 240, build it up properly - the end.

buying that supra will be the biggest mistake, because you're buying what SHOULD be a high powered GT car, but you're not - because its missing the one thing that makes that over-weight car a really GREAT car: the BALLS.

many years ago, I was thinking the same thing. I like the supra, i like the styling.. but without those turbos, its useless. and, it will never BE a light car. really, might as well consider buying an IS300....

keep the 240.

[WERDdabuilder]

a supra aint a supra without turbo.

[jeeper_x]

just keep the s14.....the n/a supra have nothing on the Turbo supra....different brakes, smaller swaysbar, and most importantly different engine....i don't think going 2jz-gte on a n/a supra would worth the money, neither......2jz-gte engine from japan can be very pricey.....^^^totally agree with you mr. WERDdabuilder

[Antihero983]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

buy the supra, and enjoy driving an under-powered fucking paperweight.

keep your 240, build it up properly - the end.

buying that supra will be the biggest mistake, because you're buying what SHOULD be a high powered GT car, but you're not - because its missing the one thing that makes that over-weight car a really GREAT car: the BALLS.

many years ago, I was thinking the same thing. I like the supra, i like the styling.. but without those turbos, its useless. and, it will never BE a light car. really, might as well consider buying an IS300....

keep the 240.

AGREED 100%

as a former toyota technician, i got to drive a few supras, turbo and non, and i must say from experience, the NA ones are a waste of money.

HOWEVER! it has been proven that the NA block can handle decent boost and horsepower! Turbo magazine did an article on a SC300 that a guy turbo'd the NA 2JZ that came in it and made around 500hp i think.

BUT! why bother since you're already well into your s14? you started it, follow through and finish it!!!

[vvtisupra]

make sure its a hardtop. I contemplated this idea for a while, but it has to be hardtop or else its a floppy penis.

[GSXRJJordan]

Supras are so sweet. If it's just a daily, I'd do it if it were close to a straight trade. Eventually you can turbo the 2JZ if you want, and keep in mind the resale market for built supras is way hotter than the market for built S14s (supraforums has dozens of $30k supras for sale).

If you are thinking about turning it into an actual performance car, I'd think about keeping the S14.

[trsilvias13]

Get a 7. The power of the rotary feel so much better. I have a 7 and my kouki 240sx, i still like driving the underpower s14 better. I can tell u, my s14 can out handle the 7 anyday, but the 7 would kill the s14 in a drag race.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by trsilvias13

Get a 7. The power of the rotary feel so much better. I have a 7 and my kouki 240sx, i still like driving the underpower s14 better. I can tell u, my s14 can out handle the 7 anyday, but the 7 would kill the s14 in a drag race.

If youre saying FD RX-7 getting owned by a S14 in the corners, then id say wow, you need to drive that shiet alot more often. Even on Stock suspensions, FDs are fucking sweeeet compared to an S14.

Anyways if you decide to get the Supra, and you got money to invest into it, get the engine swapped for a turbo and flip it. Only catch is 2JZGTEs still go for around $5k.

[k's_silvia2.0]

Then youll have to go on the supra forums.

[alexkosheck]

Thanks for the advice!
I'm going to keep my S14 for now.

[khoadogg]

I had a 5sp sc300 hardtop w/ all the supra parts such ass the rear end, sways, ssupension, brakes, interior, it's lighter, fast and sexier than a MKIV but it's rare to find. Supra's are tiny, I've driven them all and went back to the sr'd 240sx. Best all around car IMO but doesn't get as many girls...

[beeracing s14]

nothing against supra but just use that money and turbo your s14..the end.

[Irukandji]

n/a supra is a waste of time...
Reasons below:
1. Slow as fuck, feels like an 8 year old child pulling on a piano
2. Stuff is expensive, and you probably will never do the "turbo swap"
3. Did I mention it's slow?

[initial_drifter]

You'd lose to a Navigator...and stock 240's

Trust me its been proven recently...

Do what you want, its your life

[GSXRJJordan]

hahaha "slow" - yeah, so's a stock S14. 14sec+ 1/4mi = slow.

Difference is, NA-T supras are popular as f*ck, and hit 500whp without too much fuss. Parts are more expensive for Supras than 240s, yeah... but he wants a DD for now.

It's a sexy DD.

[SLeepingPanda]

240SX - ka + 2JZ-GE = gigity gigity GO!!

[SexPanda]

Supra's are sexy. NA supras are like old guy cars though...

Id keep your s14, and do what SLeepingPanda suggested above^^

or an rb... whatever bloats your goat man.

[Irukandji]

Originally Posted by SexPanda

Supra's are sexy. NA supras are like old guy cars though...

wtf.. they look the same

[harangatang]

Originally Posted by RedEvilRPS13

AGREED 100%

as a former toyota technician, i got to drive a few supras, turbo and non, and i must say from experience, the NA ones are a waste of money.

HOWEVER! it has been proven that the NA block can handle decent boost and horsepower! Turbo magazine did an article on a SC300 that a guy turbo'd the NA 2JZ that came in it and made around 500hp i think.

BUT! why bother since you're already well into your s14? you started it, follow through and finish it!!!

it was 800+ whp in the article.. and he was going to go back with a new turbo and re-tune it for more.

[illvialuver]

Originally Posted by trsilvias13

Get a 7. The power of the rotary feel so much better. I have a 7 and my kouki 240sx, i still like driving the underpower s14 better. I can tell u, my s14 can out handle the 7 anyday, but the 7 would kill the s14 in a drag race.

i think the rx7 has one of the best turn ins of any car and better than the s14, but no way or how, would i trade a clean inconspicuopus s14 that is still not finished, for a stock fatass attention whore bitch of a car, theres a guy like that here in town, and his shit is all bright orange metalica adn he cruises and revs on people but gets beat by a stock sr powered s13 with heavy ass sport max wheels a 100 lb speaker box in the trunk a full tank and 2 200 pound guys in the car, and now he does beat anyone, except himself when thinking about how he wishes he didnt get a supra, that is eyecandy for shallow hoes and the 5.o( the police in case you were unaware of that common sense fact too)

otherwise if you want go all paul walker with it and get the supra, and put in a 2jztt and lose money cause its expensive and i seriously doubt that you would do the swap yourself, you would probley have venus up in sac do that shit for you.

[illvialuver]

okay
i need to apoligize for ranting when i didnt read the part about him keepin his s14.
and i was only pissed cause its lame when people come on and ask dumb questions, liek should i trade my s14 with mods for a stock na supra? or should i stop eating luckycharms and than eat capt crucnh with dinggleberries ?
if its 75 % outside should i wear shorts or pants? its YOUR own shit, when it comes to trivial ass shit liek colors for your car, or interior seat choices or weather you should trade one car for another, just do it for yourself, if you want to trade a s14 for a pt cruiser cause that is was would make you happier than anything that do IT!!! who cares if we think pt cruisers are gay, think for yourself

[vvtisupra]

Thats funny my supra never lost to a stock KA 240. I dunno who you guys think you're racing ? The supra can stand to lose a lot of weight. I think some supra guys have gotten their TT's down to 3100 lbs. The NA's are about 300 lbs lighter just from the turbo weight so you can get an NA supra down to about 2800-2900 lb, lighten the drive train and a Diff. Parts for the supra are a little more expesnive but everything in the suspension is adjustable already, so all you'd need is a diff and coilovers. The 2jzge has plenty of torque . I've seen some cats put down 225 to the wheels with bolt ons and tune.

As for styling. Supra all the way. How can you say no I don't want that when you see orido sliding his street supra. pre VVTi engines can hold up to 400 hp stock without drivetrain mods. I'd trade up my SR'd S14 for a clean Hardtop 5 speed NA supra. Yep you heard me I said it So Alexkoshek if this dood wants to trade and his supra is clean let me get his contact info.

[illvialuver]

damn, well i guess some guys just love fat asses?
and orido was drifting his own s14 for a long time too, so i think the orido factor shouldnt be a desiding factor.

[vvtisupra]

hahah fuck orido, orido doesn;t have anything to do with it. Its his car that i care about.


As a supra owner I guess I can appreciate how light the supra feels despite its actual mass. Also the grip that it gets is amazing. The only reason why i have a 240 is because its cheaper to crash. =)