is ground control suspension worth it?

[racepar1]

DO NOT get ground control coil over sleeves! The 240s don't have enough suspension travel to stick a threaded sleeve in there, you WILL bottom out. Invest in a set of coilovers, even megan's will be significantly better than the cheap ground control crap.

[steve shadows]

Originally Posted by racepar1

DO NOT get ground control coil over sleeves! The 240s don't have enough suspension travel to stick a threaded sleeve in there, you WILL bottom out. Invest in a set of coilovers, even megan's will be significantly better than the cheap ground control crap.

you mean they have too much suspension travel?

bottom out? as in? what compress the shock?

meagans ride like total shit compared to my 600 dollar suspension

KYB AGX + GC Eibach.

sorry man I dont know what your talking about. GC also sells bumb stops.

Im sure with Konis my car would ride night and day. But I cant afford the fuckers right now.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by steve shadows

you mean they have too much suspension travel?

bottom out? as in? what compress the shock?

meagans ride like total shit compared to my 600 dollar suspension

KYB AGX + GC Eibach.

sorry man I dont know what your talking about. GC also sells bumb stops.

Im sure with Konis my car would ride night and day. But I cant afford the fuckers right now.

The front suspension has less than 2 inches of compression travel before you hit the bump stops in stock form. Lets say you drop the car 2 inches, now you have no travel at all. So then you cut the bump stops in half, now you have about 1.5 inches of travel. Not to mention that the sleeves themselves will likely interfere with compression travel. With that little compression travel you are almost sure to bottom out your suspension. Any full length adjustable coilovers will leave you with at least 2.5 to 3 inches of travel (if they are set-up right), which will be plenty of travel to avoid bottoming out. Also, how the car rides is a non-issue to me I ONLY care about how it handles!

[steve shadows]

Originally Posted by racepar1

The front suspension has less than 2 inches of compression travel before you hit the bump stops in stock form. Lets say you drop the car 2 inches, now you have no travel at all. So then you cut the bump stops in half, now you have about 1.5 inches of travel. Not to mention that the sleeves themselves will likely interfere with compression travel. With that little compression travel you are almost sure to bottom out your suspension. Any full length adjustable coilovers will leave you with at least 2.5 to 3 inches of travel (if they are set-up right), which will be plenty of travel to avoid bottoming out. Also, how the car rides is a non-issue to me I ONLY care about how it handles!

thats funny because my car handles better than most of the cars with one piece.

your argumnet confusing.

The problem with GC cars that ride improperly is the SHOCKS the Valving!

not the length.

some one else back me up on this here

[burnsauto]

Originally Posted by racepar1

The front suspension has less than 2 inches of compression travel before you hit the bump stops in stock form. Lets say you drop the car 2 inches, now you have no travel at all. So then you cut the bump stops in half, now you have about 1.5 inches of travel. Not to mention that the sleeves themselves will likely interfere with compression travel. With that little compression travel you are almost sure to bottom out your suspension. Any full length adjustable coilovers will leave you with at least 2.5 to 3 inches of travel (if they are set-up right), which will be plenty of travel to avoid bottoming out. Also, how the car rides is a non-issue to me I ONLY care about how it handles!

..you cut off part of the bumpstop so its shorter....giving the shock more room to travel. (and thats only if its needed...)

[Tearlessj]

Originally Posted by racepar1

The front suspension has less than 2 inches of compression travel before you hit the bump stops in stock form. Lets say you drop the car 2 inches, now you have no travel at all. So then you cut the bump stops in half, now you have about 1.5 inches of travel. Not to mention that the sleeves themselves will likely interfere with compression travel. With that little compression travel you are almost sure to bottom out your suspension. Any full length adjustable coilovers will leave you with at least 2.5 to 3 inches of travel (if they are set-up right), which will be plenty of travel to avoid bottoming out. Also, how the car rides is a non-issue to me I ONLY care about how it handles!

Wow your so wrong.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by tearlessj

Wow your so wrong.

Prove me wrong then, someone post pics of their front shock travel with the ground control coilovers (with the weight of the car on the suspension on that corner). I will guarantee you that even with the bump stops completely removed there will be about 2" of suspension travel max (unless you are running 4x4 status).

[driftfreek]

Originally Posted by steve shadows

you mean they have too much suspension travel?

bottom out? as in? what compress the shock?

meagans ride like total shit compared to my 600 dollar suspension

KYB AGX + GC Eibach.

sorry man I dont know what your talking about. GC also sells bumb stops.

Im sure with Konis my car would ride night and day. But I cant afford the fuckers right now.

hey steve, how much did u pay for that setup, kyb agx +GC? how stiff are you running? any problems yet? for how long have you had them?

[steve shadows]

Originally Posted by driftfreek

hey steve, how much did u pay for that setup, kyb agx +GC? how stiff are you running? any problems yet? for how long have you had them?

really cheap but Im not going to say because I might sell it soon and go with Konis and a diff spring rate so I might start over

You can find KYB AGX for about 300-400 bucks brand new
Tien Camber Plates 120-175 depending on new or used
GC Sleeves and coil kit + 1 hour of fabrication 400 + tears of joy

If your going to use the AGX shocks use a lower spring rate than I did for street. 375 Front and 300 Rear should be perfect.

[tougemII]

Originally Posted by racepar1

DO NOT get ground control coil over sleeves! The 240s don't have enough suspension travel to stick a threaded sleeve in there, you WILL bottom out. Invest in a set of coilovers, even megan's will be significantly better than the cheap ground control crap.

wow gtfo. you obviously dont know gc. gc/koni > lots of preset c/o. dampening on the koni shocks are really good. they are dyno dampened to perfection compaired to the tawian crap like d2,f2,ksports. i think if u really wanted to do some damage on the track, get gc/koni. all those preset c/o are for the average driver. if u want good suspension, ud have to pay the price. for the susp itself and the tuning itself. i think the tuning for gc koni is a lot greater then ur average preset c/o.
for me im gonna be riding on motons and gc for my s2k. when i get it.

[bigOdom1]

Originally Posted by tougemII

wow gtfo. you obviously dont know gc. gc/koni > lots of preset c/o. dampening on the koni shocks are really good. they are dyno dampened to perfection compaired to the tawian crap like d2,f2,ksports. i think if u really wanted to do some damage on the track, get gc/koni. all those preset c/o are for the average driver. if u want good suspension, ud have to pay the price. for the susp itself and the tuning itself. i think the tuning for gc koni is a lot greater then ur average preset c/o.
for me im gonna be riding on motons and gc for my s2k. when i get it.

Back off dude he already admitted he was not in the know concerning GC

[tschad]

Originally Posted by racepar1

DO NOT get ground control coil over sleeves! The 240s don't have enough suspension travel to stick a threaded sleeve in there, you WILL bottom out. Invest in a set of coilovers, even megan's will be significantly better than the cheap ground control crap.

read up on GC+koni. everyone says how great of a set up it is. and well megan....megan just sucks. megan is made in china with means cheap.

GC+koni is best setup for the price and im yet to hear of a better set up.