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Foxcolt · 11-13-2002, 11:53 AM

Well folks on my way to work yesterday my beloved s14 slipped on the highway and went sideways through a rack of bushes. No one else was involved and nothing happend to me. However my poor baby is gonna need a lot of work.
Here's the damage as best as I can describe it.

Passanger door has a HUGE dent, fortunatly I have access to another one.

Passanger fender's banged up. Don't have any leads on another fender yet.

Lower apron under the door is banged up. I'm probably gonna have to drill, pull and bondo that sucker.

Front bumper with lights are gone: I wish I had full converage that woulda been an s15 right there.

Intercooler is dented to all hell: I don't know if it'll still hold boost but I know I'm gonna need another one.

Here's my question.
It was a very rainy morning and as soon as I got my car on the highway I could tell things were gonna go downhill. The car would hydroplane a little in the rain and I would always have to correct however yesterday morning was especially bad. I figure it's because of my tires. That would be the deciding factor in rain traction correct? What could I do to improve it? I do not want something like this to happen again.

Thanks for reading guys
Jed
Who knows this might be a blessing in disquise. I've been looking for a reason to put some sideskirts and get a fresh coat of paint on my car.

uiuc240 · 11-13-2002, 12:06 PM

No way, dude!!!  That sucks fat donkey ballz!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':unhappy:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Insurance is a bitch, ain't it?  You get raped paying for it, so you carry less, but then when you need it, they don't pay for shit.  Fockers.

About rain traction...it's ALL about tires.  You need good ones.  I imagine yours are quite bald with all those burnout pics I see  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>  Get some new shit and you should be fine.

I'm sorry this had to happen, Jed...but at least you're looking at it from the bright side.

Eric

Foxcolt · 11-13-2002, 12:09 PM

Thx for the support bud <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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SimpleS14 · 11-13-2002, 12:22 PM

damn Jed I'm sorry to hear that....I wonder how bad your car looks.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

Yea insurance is a bitch and the 240 is not exactly a cheap car...learned that from my experience.  Is your car still driveable?

If it was the driver side instead of the passenger side you could have my fender.  I dunno if you want my bumper its scuffed up a bit.

I know how it is driving on the highway in the rain, yesturday my car would sway left or right if I hit a pool of water.  Everytime it rains I drive like a little bitch....BTW were you driving on bald tires?.......new tires can't hurt......thats one thing I need to do.

Chokets · 11-13-2002, 01:14 PM

everytime it rains i say a prayer and go into super concetration...
I have a feeling one day i'll drop a post saying the same thing, or worse...
i know my tires are jacked, i need new ones, but don't have the $$$, but i think it would be worth the investment to avoid rain-dangers...

i'm happy your not dead, and didn't hit someone else.

Potatoskins02 · 11-13-2002, 03:39 PM

that sucks man.........  makes me kinda want to get new tires instead of books for next semester. Well I hope to see your car back in commission some time soon.

wpayne · 11-13-2002, 05:59 PM

Man, I feel your pain. Sorry I can't really help in away. This is gonna make me all paranoid the next time it rains <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'> .

anisht · 11-13-2002, 07:07 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Chokets @ Nov. 13 2002,2:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">everytime it rains i say a prayer and go into super concetration...
I have a feeling one day i'll drop a post saying the same thing, or worse...
i know my tires are jacked, i need new ones, but don't have the $$$, but i think it would be worth the investment to avoid rain-dangers...

i'm happy your not dead, and didn't hit someone else.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ditto..

Sorry to hear.  At least no one was hurt

xS1LV1Ax · 11-13-2002, 10:29 PM

That sucks.  Good Luck with the repairs.

adey · 11-13-2002, 11:03 PM

Tires are definitely the most important aspect of traction in the rain. what kind of tires were you (are you) on? It's seriously no fun to drive in the rain with most summer compound tires... especially something like Falken Azenis.

I'm glad you didn't hit anyone else and weren't injured, though! Good luck with the repairs.

Foxcolt · 11-14-2002, 09:45 AM

Thanks guys. I had whatever good year tires were on the 300z wheels I got. Don't know though. Unfortunatly since I drift a lot my tires go bald pretty quick. I was in need of new rears anyways and had planed to get them in the next week or so turns out I was a little to late <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>

Good news is that I have a plan to fix everything hopefully be this weekend. Cheapest option is to paint the car flat black, which is something I was considering anyways.

Thanks!
Jed

*DSC* · 11-14-2002, 10:17 AM

<!--QuoteBegin--adey+Nov. 13 2002,02<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Nov. 13 2002,02<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>3)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Tires are definitely the most important aspect of traction in the rain. what kind of tires were you (are you) on? It's seriously no fun to drive in the rain with most summer compound tires... especially something like Falken Azenis.

I'm glad you didn't hit anyone else and weren't injured, though! Good luck with the repairs.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I love driving in the rain with my azenis <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Pretty uncomfortable at 65mph+ in heavy rain and very bad hitting the mini puddles in the road but for general rain driving they are pretty great...way better than my, umm whatever I had on there before with lots of tread.

Just FYI <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> they aren't as bad in rain as everybody says.

I'm sorry to hear about the car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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You know I have pages dedicated to showing off wrecked cars...send me pics if you want a spot <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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check here for others.

KyoLo · 11-14-2002, 02:51 PM

With my poor skills i know i can't control my silvia in the rain, unless i have 1.5way LSD and know how to drift, and with good tires...

91CRXsiR · 11-15-2002, 12:17 AM

1st thing i did when i got my 240 was lose control of it in the rain and practice regaining control... now i can drive w/ confidence....

i still remember the horror of fishtailing my friends S12 on accident...

Sr2O-det · 11-15-2002, 12:32 AM

Man im sorry to heard that, I hope you get the money the legal way and get that baby of your fix up quick. We need you to represent the nissan owner's out there. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

Good luck.

11-13-2002, 11:53 AM	#1
Foxcolt Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,264 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well folks on my way to work yesterday my beloved s14 slipped on the highway and went sideways through a rack of bushes. No one else was involved and nothing happend to me. However my poor baby is gonna need a lot of work. Here's the damage as best as I can describe it. Passanger door has a HUGE dent, fortunatly I have access to another one. Passanger fender's banged up. Don't have any leads on another fender yet. Lower apron under the door is banged up. I'm probably gonna have to drill, pull and bondo that sucker. Front bumper with lights are gone: I wish I had full converage that woulda been an s15 right there. Intercooler is dented to all hell: I don't know if it'll still hold boost but I know I'm gonna need another one. Here's my question. It was a very rainy morning and as soon as I got my car on the highway I could tell things were gonna go downhill. The car would hydroplane a little in the rain and I would always have to correct however yesterday morning was especially bad. I figure it's because of my tires. That would be the deciding factor in rain traction correct? What could I do to improve it? I do not want something like this to happen again. Thanks for reading guys Jed Who knows this might be a blessing in disquise. I've been looking for a reason to put some sideskirts and get a fresh coat of paint on my car. __________________ Driftec www.midatlantic240sx.com

11-13-2002, 12:06 PM	#2
uiuc240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Age: 46 Posts: 2,093 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No way, dude!!!  That sucks fat donkey ballz!!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':unhappy:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Insurance is a bitch, ain't it?  You get raped paying for it, so you carry less, but then when you need it, they don't pay for shit.  Fockers. About rain traction...it's ALL about tires.  You need good ones.  I imagine yours are quite bald with all those burnout pics I see  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>  Get some new shit and you should be fine. I'm sorry this had to happen, Jed...but at least you're looking at it from the bright side. Eric __________________ 2002 Mazda Protege5 1989 S13 w/SR20DET (sold)

11-13-2002, 12:09 PM	#3
Foxcolt Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,264 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thx for the support bud <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ Driftec www.midatlantic240sx.com

11-13-2002, 12:22 PM	#4
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 42 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn Jed I'm sorry to hear that....I wonder how bad your car looks.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> Yea insurance is a bitch and the 240 is not exactly a cheap car...learned that from my experience.  Is your car still driveable? If it was the driver side instead of the passenger side you could have my fender.  I dunno if you want my bumper its scuffed up a bit. I know how it is driving on the highway in the rain, yesturday my car would sway left or right if I hit a pool of water.  Everytime it rains I drive like a little bitch....BTW were you driving on bald tires?.......new tires can't hurt......thats one thing I need to do. __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

11-13-2002, 01:14 PM	#5
Chokets Endless Knights Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NOVA Posts: 231 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	everytime it rains i say a prayer and go into super concetration... I have a feeling one day i'll drop a post saying the same thing, or worse... i know my tires are jacked, i need new ones, but don't have the $$$, but i think it would be worth the investment to avoid rain-dangers... i'm happy your not dead, and didn't hit someone else. __________________ K.A.H. -so then i tell'er "yeah, honey, you're on the list, but i moved you way to the bottom!"

11-13-2002, 03:39 PM	#6
Potatoskins02 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 41 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that sucks man.........  makes me kinda want to get new tires instead of books for next semester. Well I hope to see your car back in commission some time soon. __________________ ~1993 240sx CAI, FSTB, RSTB, Zigen Fireball friend MSP owner... "I need to save my gas...... shit its beginning to boost!" shifts

11-13-2002, 05:59 PM	#7
wpayne Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Okinawa, Japan + Azusa, CA Posts: 563 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man, I feel your pain. Sorry I can't really help in away. This is gonna make me all paranoid the next time it rains <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'> . __________________ Too many people use cars as an extension of their PENIS and they make me sick. A car is to get you from point A to point B or for motorsports. Not revving around town at stop lights. Check out my mods!: 50,000watt super amp and JDM lights!! Yeah right... S13 Silvia K's I got for free (I'm in japan now)!! Woot woot! '99 25GT-T Skyline (I don't want to list all the parts) http://welcome.to/skylinegtr '92 240sx HB

11-13-2002, 07:07 PM	#8
anisht Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 86 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Chokets @ Nov. 13 2002,2:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">everytime it rains i say a prayer and go into super concetration... I have a feeling one day i'll drop a post saying the same thing, or worse... i know my tires are jacked, i need new ones, but don't have the $$$, but i think it would be worth the investment to avoid rain-dangers... i'm happy your not dead, and didn't hit someone else.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> ditto.. Sorry to hear.  At least no one was hurt

11-13-2002, 10:29 PM	#9
xS1LV1Ax Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Some people call it a box. I call it home :) Age: 40 Posts: 641 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That sucks.  Good Luck with the repairs. __________________ PJ

11-13-2002, 11:03 PM	#10
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Tires are definitely the most important aspect of traction in the rain. what kind of tires were you (are you) on? It's seriously no fun to drive in the rain with most summer compound tires... especially something like Falken Azenis. I'm glad you didn't hit anyone else and weren't injured, though! Good luck with the repairs. __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

11-14-2002, 09:45 AM	#11
Foxcolt Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,264 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks guys. I had whatever good year tires were on the 300z wheels I got. Don't know though. Unfortunatly since I drift a lot my tires go bald pretty quick. I was in need of new rears anyways and had planed to get them in the next week or so turns out I was a little to late <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'> Good news is that I have a plan to fix everything hopefully be this weekend. Cheapest option is to paint the car flat black, which is something I was considering anyways. Thanks! Jed __________________ Driftec www.midatlantic240sx.com

11-14-2002, 10:17 AM	#12
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<!--QuoteBegin--adey+Nov. 13 2002,02<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Nov. 13 2002,02<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>3)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Tires are definitely the most important aspect of traction in the rain. what kind of tires were you (are you) on? It's seriously no fun to drive in the rain with most summer compound tires... especially something like Falken Azenis. I'm glad you didn't hit anyone else and weren't injured, though! Good luck with the repairs.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I love driving in the rain with my azenis <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Pretty uncomfortable at 65mph+ in heavy rain and very bad hitting the mini puddles in the road but for general rain driving they are pretty great...way better than my, umm whatever I had on there before with lots of tread. Just FYI <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> they aren't as bad in rain as everybody says. I'm sorry to hear about the car <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> You know I have pages dedicated to showing off wrecked cars...send me pics if you want a spot <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> check here for others. __________________

11-14-2002, 02:51 PM	#13
KyoLo Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: UCSD Posts: 249 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	With my poor skills i know i can't control my silvia in the rain, unless i have 1.5way LSD and know how to drift, and with good tires... __________________ Signature Exceeds Forum Limits

11-15-2002, 12:17 AM	#14
91CRXsiR Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: City of Industry, CA [626] Age: 42 Posts: 2,092 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	1st thing i did when i got my 240 was lose control of it in the rain and practice regaining control... now i can drive w/ confidence.... i still remember the horror of fishtailing my friends S12 on accident...

11-15-2002, 12:32 AM	#15
Sr2O-det Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man im sorry to heard that, I hope you get the money the legal way and get that baby of your fix up quick. We need you to represent the nissan owner's out there. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> Good luck.