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You have recieved some wrong information. All s14 do not have LSD. How do I know? Well because my friend has an S14 and his car is not equiped with an LSD. All sportpackaged S13 have LSD. This sportpackage consist of Super-hicas. If it is a Super-hicas it has an LSD (like mine).
You can tell if a certain car has LSD by spinning one of the rear wheels. As you are spinning, both wheels should spin in the same direction. Or there should be an orange sticker on the driver side of the differential labled "vlsd", which can be seen after removing the wheel on that side. |
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dude, u just gave him wrong info....NOT ALL s14 have LSD, however, those that are SE's that have ABS brakes have LSD!!
THen again, it is rare to find a SE w/o ABS, so the majority of S14s that are SE have LSD |
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you either:
* have ABS and don't know it * have an open diff and don't know it * have a modified car All the various tricks to "prove" you have a limited slip don't really mean a thing. You can even do a two-wheel burnout with an open diff, particularly in cars like ours with IRS. |
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I know I don't have ABS but maybe this open diff thing. What exactly does it do. I know my car won't let me burnouts, it just lets hte revs go up there but no burning, and the clutch is still good. And my car will not let me do donuts, even in the rain. So somebody tell me what I have, please.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">All sportpackaged S13 have LSD</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Is this guy giving the right information, I have a s13 with the sportpackaged and I think I don't have LSD.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xLSTONEx @ Dec. 01 2002,10:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I know I don't have ABS but maybe this open diff thing. What exactly does it do. I know my car won't let me burnouts, it just lets hte revs go up there but no burning, and the clutch is still good. And my car will not let me do donuts, even in the rain. So somebody tell me what I have, please.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You have good tires and a basically stock KA. Also, if the revs climb but you're not moving, then the clutch is slipping. Try this: jack up the rear of your car and look for an orange sticker on your differential. |
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (logo20 @ Dec. 01 2002,01:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">All sportpackaged S13 have LSD</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Is this guy giving the right information, I have a s13 with the sportpackaged and I think I don't have LSD.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> if you have the sport package (HICAS, 205/60/15 series tires, larger sway bars) then your car has a VLSD as it was part of this package EDIT: oops, didn't scroll down enough to see sykikchimps post... |
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xLSTONEx @ Dec. 01 2002,9:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I know I don't have ABS but maybe this open diff thing. What exactly does it do. I know my car won't let me burnouts, it just lets hte revs go up there but no burning, and the clutch is still good. And my car will not let me do donuts, even in the rain. So somebody tell me what I have, please.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
A bad clutch? LOL |
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So its impossible to not have ABS and have LSD...I really wish my car has LSD, i have a 92 SE loaded with power and everything, i would think mine would have LSD...buy o-well, keep wishin i guess,
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ok guys time to lay some rumors to rest.
after 7/90 i.e. 91 model year VLSD was an option. It could be ordered seperately. There are non abs VLSD's out there I have seen them. There are also ABS open diffs. HICAS cars did indeed have the VLSD but you could order it for your car and have it without the hicas package. LE's with 5 speeds and ABS have been known to have it as well. Ask S13grl she has one. hell, I have a 92 SE without sunroof now is one of you guys gonna tell me you could not get a SE without a sunroof? Ok back to subject <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=' ![]() As far as the S14 goes I am not going to speculate the rumor is all S14 SE's had VLSD but I have a feeling again that may not be exactly correct. I am not going to take a position on it though. This is much like the rumor that all canadian cars came with VLSD again there are canadians here that have proved that wrong.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift freaq @ Dec. 03 2002,9:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ok guys time to lay some rumors to rest.
after 7/90 i.e. 91 model year VLSD was an option. It could be ordered seperately. There are non abs VLSD's out there I have seen them. There are also ABS open diffs. HICAS cars did indeed have the VLSD but you could order it for your car and have it without the hicas package. LE's with 5 speeds and ABS have been known to have it as well. Ask S13grl she has one. hell, I have a 92 SE without sunroof now is one of you guys gonna tell me you could not get a SE without a sunroof? Ok back to subject <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=' ![]() As far as the S14 goes I am not going to speculate the rumor is all S14 SE's had VLSD but I have a feeling again that may not be exactly correct. I am not going to take a position on it though. This is much like the rumor that all canadian cars came with VLSD again there are canadians here that have proved that wrong.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR LOOK! at the factory brochures. S13, VLSD PART OF THE SE FASTBACK HANDLING PACKAGE ONLY. http://www.socal240sx.org/faq/1991.html http://www.socal240sx.org/faq/1992.html http://www.socal240sx.org/faq/1993.html ABS open diffs, sure. ABS was an option separately for the S13, by itself. It came with the handling package, but it was also available by itself. I have seen plenty of these cars. On the S14 it was not available alone, only bundled with the VLSD. You'll note that those brochures also indicate the power sunroof was an option by itself as you said. For the S14, in the US, ABS and the VLSD were sold only together, available as an OPTION in all models (base, SE, LE). This is fact, it's known, there are no rumors to discuss. |
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">AKA driver...GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
LOOK! at the factory brochures. S13, VLSD PART OF THE SE FASTBACK HANDLING PACKAGE ONLY. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> dude, I have read those brochures. I have seen cars here in socal that came with VLSD without the Hicas. Gonna argue with me about something I know. Why don't you ask S13grl like I said. She owns a 91 LE without Hicas and it has VLSD. This is not a rumor. Go to your local Nissan dealer and ask them to look it up on the computer I did. On the option list paper work I had printed out it said quote unquote what I said previously after 7/90 it was an option. Even Alex Chang agrees with me on this. I did the research and those brochures were advertising brochures that someone kept and scanned. they are not the gospel. Advertising brochures have been known to omit and make mistakes. I would not even go here if I had not done this research. Been down this road before!!!! Go do your research. stop just trying to get all your facts off the internet its not always right.
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OK, Now I'm inclined to believe you. Sorry for the harsh tone before, but there are so many jackasses that claim their cars have limited slips because they can leave two black strips, or because they can jack up the rear of the car and spin both wheels, or some other hooey.
My research comes from just being around S13s, I've never personally seen a car with a confirmed VLSD without HICAS. There's actually a listing in parts interchange manuals for a "non-ABS, locking" differential but again, I've never had the pleasure of seeing one (I'd love to... I'd love to put one in my car!!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=' ![]() The advertising brochures say what was generally available to the public. There have always been special order flukes, someone once mentioned seeing a HUD in a fastback, these things happen. It's just not as likely. |
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Let's just say your chances of finding one are between slim and none, and slim just left town <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>
But hey, ABS/LSD package cars aren't that uncommon. |
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I quote myself:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">there are so many jackasses that claim their cars have limited slips because they can leave two black strips, or because they can jack up the rear of the car and spin both wheels, or some other hooey.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Your claim is about as valid. Check your diff, I bet it has the sticker on it. The VLSD just isn't very good <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=' ![]() |
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