Nissan and Chrysler may build cars and trucks together

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Now, this is the first arguement for a Chrysler/Dodge , Nissan/Renault arrangement that has any facts, on the Chrysler side in it and poses decent points.
Maybe if Mr Hemicharger had posted facts, rather than opinions, I might not have had to take him to school repeatedly.

Funny how someone mentioned earlier about how bad things were that even Mercedes could not correct it and Mr HemiCharger ignored it.

Though I will say Mel, the Titan was applauded in the heavy duty truck world for being as good as it is. It was considered a class leader.

P.S. I have nothing against Dodge trucks they have been badass back in the day and still are one of the few shinning star parts of that company.

Yea, I should have clerified, I meant the super heavy duty line of trucks, ie dullies that they have not been able to compete with. None of the Japanese brands have been able to pull it off. Toyota and Nissan are both scratching their heads right now. Nissan looks like their done scratchin and have a good solution...partner with Chrysler.

I LOVE the Titan. IMO, best looking truck on the market. Now, add the Rams underpinings and you have an absolute winner IMO. Like I said, it could easily outsell the Tundy.

But here's where I'm mostly torn. As BA as a Titan/Ram would be for Nissan, I think they need to bow out of this race entirely. With the new CAFE regulations, I think them pursuing this is a bad idea. It's only going to totally pull down their average fleet MPG in the wrong direction.

Quote me on this...mid-small size pick-ups are the wave of the future for the US. I know, sounds nuts right now. But see what happens in 5 years. 30mpg boxy ass pick-ups are gonna be the new black.

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Yea, I should have clerified, I meant the super heavy duty line of trucks, ie dullies that they have not been able to compete with. None of the Japanese brands have been able to pull it off. Toyota and Nissan are both scratching their heads right now. Nissan looks like their done scratchin and have a good solution...partner with Chrysler.

I LOVE the Titan. IMO, best looking truck on the market. Now, add the Rams underpinings and you have an absolute winner IMO. Like I said, it could easily outsell the Tundy.

But here's where I'm mostly torn. As BA as a Titan/Ram would be for Nissan, I think they need to bow out of this race entirely. With the new CAFE regulations, I think them pursuing this is a bad idea. It's only going to totally pull their average fleet MPG in the wrong direction.

Quote me on this...mid-small size pick-ups are the wave of the future for the US. I know, sounds nuts right now. But see what happens in 5 years. 30mpg boxy ass pick-ups are gonna be the new black.

You know what Mel? Your probably right on that. America loves its pickups always has always will.
I do agree going up segment into super heavy duty trucks is a bad idea at this time.

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

You know what Mel? Your probably right on that. America loves its pickups always has always will.
I do agree going up segment into super heavy duty trucks is a bad idea at this time.

Also, the manufacturers have no choice but to pursue other routes for truck design other then...GIANT. The mid-Size pick-up segment has been all but ignored over the last 10 years because of the focus on the Full-Sizers (where th money has been). Well that money is shrinking. There has to be a shift (no pun intended) in consumer demand, and that shift will come when the manufactures start saying, "Hey, we just can't built that any more". Shit, it's gonna happen sooner then later too. Take for instance the ZR1, CTSV, new Viper...those are it. Those are going to be the last generation of huge HP American supercar monsters we're gonna see. The C7 Vette is going to a totally different animal. Like a vette, Elise-ised.

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

I LOVE the Titan. IMO, best looking truck on the market. Now, add the Rams underpinings and you have an absolute winner IMO. Like I said, it could easily outsell the Tundy.

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I was not one of the people that disagreed with the merger. Try to know what you are talking about before you open your mouth. It makes you look like an ass.