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RedSuns · 01-21-2003, 04:32 PM

I have spent the last 5 hours in two seperate junkyards in my area picking out TONS of stuff.....now all i need to do is find out what hubs can be used on what??....i have helped a friend do a 5 lug swap on his s14 so i know the procedure....but i was able to get a hold of many many sets of hubs from the z32 and the Q45....now what i need to do is figure which one can be used on the s13/s14.......like if the z32 will fit on the front of the 240SX and if i can use the Q45 ones.........great thanks to all who reply....

Dousan_PG · 01-21-2003, 04:36 PM

ONLY rear NA z32 work on the 240sx

fronts wont. but you need rear NA i believe only is a bolt on job

RedSuns · 01-21-2003, 04:39 PM

hopefully i will be able to do some custom work....i got many sets of brakes after today so i will play around with it....also do you know anything about the q45 hubs??

Dousan_PG · 01-21-2003, 04:49 PM

its been discussed on freshalloy i think. i forget what works though

RedSuns · 01-21-2003, 05:14 PM

i can't find anything about the q45 hubs

Dousan_PG · 01-21-2003, 06:11 PM

post about it. someone knows asad or kook

RedSuns · 01-21-2003, 06:12 PM

asad didn't mention anything about the Q45......but he did clarify the z32 situation

Dousan_PG · 01-21-2003, 06:23 PM

kook replied. he's da man!

adey · 01-21-2003, 10:52 PM

POST WHORES!

Dousan, are you going 5-lug any time soon?
If you're not doing a brake upgrade, don't S14 hubs also work on the S13? You'd have to change/modify one of the ball joints or something, though... or something like that.

drift freaq · 01-22-2003, 01:03 AM

if you are going to put 5 lug fronts on a S13 you have 2 options. the eaisest one for us here is to use a S14 knuckle with the hub and then install a S14 ball joint in the S13 control arm. The only drawback to this setup is the fact that the bolts for the S14 knuckle are slightly wider than the bolts for the S13 knuckle . Which means you must widen slightly the holes on your strut that the knuckle bolts go through.
Now supposedly(according to Mav1178) in Japan you can get a spacer for the S13 spindle(s13 spindle is narrower than S14 spindle). Thus allowing you to put on a S14 5 lug hub without the S14 spindle and knuckle. This eliminates having to change your ball joint etc. To bad I have not seen this item offered here yet by anyone and have heard its quite pricey.

Dousan_PG · 01-22-2003, 06:32 AM

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Originally posted by adey
POST WHORES!
Dousan, are you going 5-lug any time soon?
If you're not doing a brake upgrade, don't S14 hubs also work on the S13? You'd have to change/modify one of the ball joints or something, though... or something like that.

not for me. when i'm doing it i'm going w/ the japanese hubs. bolt straight on front. maybe this year...unsure. everyone i know is 4 lug so i can borrow a certain somebodys wheels when i need right now!

Foxcolt · 01-22-2003, 08:20 AM

The only thing from a Q45 that will fit are the front brakes. Those are only marginaly better than stock. Remember they came off my 180sx clip you saw em in my back yard.

Other than that everything else besides the maf and ignitor chip is pretty useless.

bonzelite · 01-27-2003, 11:43 PM

you mentioned you knew the procedure to swap 4 to 5 lug. on the S14, i understand that z32 rears can be simply bolted on. but the front is a different story. can the z32's or r32 Skyline hubs be adapted in any fashion for the front? moreover, what is the 'procedure' for a 5 lug swap? i'm new, so don't flame me too much.

drift freaq · 01-28-2003, 01:50 AM

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you mentioned you knew the procedure to swap 4 to 5 lug. on the S14, i understand that z32 rears can be simply bolted on. but the front is a different story. can the z32's or r32 Skyline hubs be adapted in any fashion for the front? moreover, what is the 'procedure' for a 5 lug swap? i'm new, so don't flame me too much.

ok if your putting SE 5 lug hubs on a base model S14 all you need is the hubs all the way around. As far as Z brakes go Z32 brakes bolt on in the front and the rear the problem is you have to extend your hand brake cable for the z brakes. you also have to remove the S14 backing plate.
As far as R32 skyline hubs go why bother? S14 SE 5 lug hub fronts and either S14 5 lug hub rear or Z32 rear 5 lug hub will work and be cheaper. Same goes for trying to use R32 brakes they will cost you an arm and a leg here in the states . your better off just upgrading to Z32 brakes.

Foxcolt · 01-28-2003, 08:48 AM

Better getting spindles as it saves you from having to use two jackstands and an axe to seperate the hub from the spindle

Dousan_PG · 01-28-2003, 09:05 AM

if you have a 4 lug S14
can you replace your 4 lug hubs with 4 lug s13 hubs?

bolt in job?? any extra parts needed?

huntz0r · 01-28-2003, 11:04 AM

Rear hubs are compatible from S14 to S13, so they should bolt on. Front hubs would not work since the S14 spindle is a larger bore. I can't figure why you'd want to do that though...

Dousan_PG · 01-28-2003, 11:09 AM

im not doing it but its a VERY GOOD QUESTION for people who might have bad s14 4 lug hubs (bearings might go etc) and cant afford a upgrade at the moment

open mind please.

huntz0r · 01-28-2003, 11:20 AM

ok I was just wondering because that sounded like an odd idea...

The rear hubs seem to pretty much be the same part for both chassis. Fronts would have to come from another S14 though.

Dousan_PG · 01-28-2003, 11:26 AM

cool. thanks!!!
my thoughts as well, needed some verification!

01-21-2003, 04:32 PM	#1
RedSuns Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 43 Posts: 1,865 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Setting the records straigt w/hub swapping I have spent the last 5 hours in two seperate junkyards in my area picking out TONS of stuff.....now all i need to do is find out what hubs can be used on what??....i have helped a friend do a 5 lug swap on his s14 so i know the procedure....but i was able to get a hold of many many sets of hubs from the z32 and the Q45....now what i need to do is figure which one can be used on the s13/s14.......like if the z32 will fit on the front of the 240SX and if i can use the Q45 ones.........great thanks to all who reply.... __________________ Johnathan 2005 Titan 1996 240SX 1991 240SX 1974 260Z 1996 Honda CBR 600 F3

01-21-2003, 04:36 PM	#2
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	ONLY rear NA z32 work on the 240sx fronts wont. but you need rear NA i believe only is a bolt on job __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-21-2003, 04:39 PM	#3
RedSuns Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 43 Posts: 1,865 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hopefully i will be able to do some custom work....i got many sets of brakes after today so i will play around with it....also do you know anything about the q45 hubs?? __________________ Johnathan 2005 Titan 1996 240SX 1991 240SX 1974 260Z 1996 Honda CBR 600 F3

01-21-2003, 04:49 PM	#4
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	its been discussed on freshalloy i think. i forget what works though __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-21-2003, 05:14 PM	#5
RedSuns Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 43 Posts: 1,865 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i can't find anything about the q45 hubs __________________ Johnathan 2005 Titan 1996 240SX 1991 240SX 1974 260Z 1996 Honda CBR 600 F3

01-21-2003, 06:11 PM	#6
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	post about it. someone knows asad or kook __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-21-2003, 06:12 PM	#7
RedSuns Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 43 Posts: 1,865 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	asad didn't mention anything about the Q45......but he did clarify the z32 situation __________________ Johnathan 2005 Titan 1996 240SX 1991 240SX 1974 260Z 1996 Honda CBR 600 F3

01-21-2003, 06:23 PM	#8
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	kook replied. he's da man! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-21-2003, 10:52 PM	#9
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	POST WHORES! Dousan, are you going 5-lug any time soon? If you're not doing a brake upgrade, don't S14 hubs also work on the S13? You'd have to change/modify one of the ball joints or something, though... or something like that. __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

01-22-2003, 01:03 AM	#10
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	if you are going to put 5 lug fronts on a S13 you have 2 options. the eaisest one for us here is to use a S14 knuckle with the hub and then install a S14 ball joint in the S13 control arm. The only drawback to this setup is the fact that the bolts for the S14 knuckle are slightly wider than the bolts for the S13 knuckle . Which means you must widen slightly the holes on your strut that the knuckle bolts go through. Now supposedly(according to Mav1178) in Japan you can get a spacer for the S13 spindle(s13 spindle is narrower than S14 spindle). Thus allowing you to put on a S14 5 lug hub without the S14 spindle and knuckle. This eliminates having to change your ball joint etc. To bad I have not seen this item offered here yet by anyone and have heard its quite pricey. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

01-22-2003, 08:20 AM	#12
Foxcolt Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,264 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The only thing from a Q45 that will fit are the front brakes. Those are only marginaly better than stock. Remember they came off my 180sx clip you saw em in my back yard. Other than that everything else besides the maf and ignitor chip is pretty useless. __________________ Driftec www.midatlantic240sx.com

01-27-2003, 11:43 PM	#13
bonzelite Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: los angeles Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	query for civickilla; 5 lug swap to S14 you mentioned you knew the procedure to swap 4 to 5 lug. on the S14, i understand that z32 rears can be simply bolted on. but the front is a different story. can the z32's or r32 Skyline hubs be adapted in any fashion for the front? moreover, what is the 'procedure' for a 5 lug swap? i'm new, so don't flame me too much.

01-28-2003, 08:48 AM	#15
Foxcolt Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,264 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Better getting spindles as it saves you from having to use two jackstands and an axe to seperate the hub from the spindle __________________ Driftec www.midatlantic240sx.com

01-28-2003, 09:05 AM	#16
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	if you have a 4 lug S14 can you replace your 4 lug hubs with 4 lug s13 hubs? bolt in job?? any extra parts needed? __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-28-2003, 11:04 AM	#17
huntz0r Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 44 Posts: 131 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Rear hubs are compatible from S14 to S13, so they should bolt on. Front hubs would not work since the S14 spindle is a larger bore. I can't figure why you'd want to do that though... __________________ 2003 Acura RSX Type-S 1990 240SX SE hatch (sold)

01-28-2003, 11:09 AM	#18
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	im not doing it but its a VERY GOOD QUESTION for people who might have bad s14 4 lug hubs (bearings might go etc) and cant afford a upgrade at the moment open mind please. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

01-28-2003, 11:20 AM	#19
huntz0r Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 44 Posts: 131 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ok I was just wondering because that sounded like an odd idea... The rear hubs seem to pretty much be the same part for both chassis. Fronts would have to come from another S14 though. __________________ 2003 Acura RSX Type-S 1990 240SX SE hatch (sold)

01-28-2003, 11:26 AM	#20
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	cool. thanks!!! my thoughts as well, needed some verification! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira