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jbuckley · 03-04-2008, 06:19 PM

im really diggin the trunk ! good luck on the build

bo2o · 03-04-2008, 06:22 PM

so no ac or heat?

IIIXziuR · 03-04-2008, 06:25 PM

What MIG welder are you guys using and what is your set-up? Power?
How are you performing the stitch welding on the chassis?

Build looks real promosing, should be fun to follow your progress.
Keep up the work fellas!

ByeByeSti · 03-04-2008, 08:36 PM

damn, those welds lookin real good, wish mine came out that clean

dxs080jpgex · 03-04-2008, 09:06 PM

thats not the final shape of the cage is it?
its awefully far from those a pillars
great build though
id love to find a coupe near me!

sijia10358 · 03-04-2008, 09:13 PM

wow! this looks like a interesting build up!!! i wanna see the finished product!!!

PoorMans180SX · 03-04-2008, 09:31 PM

holy stitch welds batman! I take it you're going for chassis strength, because it seems like half of those would do. Did you make sure you had some way to keep the chassis from flexing with the heat?

Cage and rear firewall look good.

Tomkun-s13 · 03-04-2008, 09:36 PM

Good job on the build. You know you could just cut the end off the control arms and box them then add some heim joints. Not to much more work then what you've done.

IIIXziuR · 03-05-2008, 10:59 PM

Okay cool man, if you could ask your buddy about the welding and what not that would be awesome. Just trying to get a general idea of how it was done.

mugendork · 03-05-2008, 11:12 PM

just a thought, you said that your pipe bender was crushing the tubing? A cheap trick is to find a way to plug the ends, plumbing cap etc etc...plug one side, fill it completely with sand, then plug the other side, it should not collapse if done correctly...

*kognition* · 03-05-2008, 11:34 PM

Looks like a good project car for 500 bucks.
Off the top of my head:
FIBERGLASS DASH" Don't get overly exotic making one. Pre Fabbed flat panels are the way to go for good weight loss. I think my dash is 3lb's.

FUEL CELL: Not necessary right now until you start running race gas and need to control your weight (racing and TA anyway) But a good upgrade.

2 WAY DIFF: For drifting is fine. Not for racing or TA. For that you should stick with a Helical like a Quaife Helical LSD if you are serious about racing.

SWAY BAR: For drifting you want a good rigid setup front and back. For race and TA you want a rigid setup in the front, and softer setup (stock) in the rear.

WEIGHT REDUCTION: Plenty to be had starting with that sound deadening (30lb's) on that alone.

Good luck and keep us updated.

eastcoastS14 · 03-05-2008, 11:42 PM

nice...where in MA are you located?

noname7198 · 03-06-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastcoastS14

nice...where in MA are you located?

I'm in Sudbury, but the car is at my friends house near Philly.

RedtopTech · 03-17-2008, 06:57 PM

Any updates bud?

sac · 03-17-2008, 07:24 PM

looks like your off to a good start man.. That sucks the car is that far away.. I would hate not being able to go out and work on my car whenever.. stitch weldin looks good..

Landers · 03-23-2008, 02:51 PM

Lovin this build! Car is coming out very nicely. Props!

racepar1 · 03-23-2008, 03:01 PM

I would have mounted the fuel cell lower, almost in the stock location, personally. I would have also made the rear firewall and trunk floor out of aluminum to save weight as the cage should brace the back of the car good enough to not need the extra rigidity of the welded in firewall and trunk pan. I would really like to see what kognition has to say about my opinions though. Good overall build thoguh!

JesusFreakDrifter · 03-23-2008, 03:59 PM

excellent, subscribed, hopefully this turns out well. this is why zilvia needs a build section

sr20det drift · 03-24-2008, 12:27 AM

SICK BRO, those are some nice ideas

turboh224g · 03-24-2008, 06:42 PM

Ok, it has been a while since I last posted. Been busy building. As far as the welder I am using, mostly MILLER 135, mig, 75/25 argon/CO2, 110 power, .030 wire for most and .024 for the sheet. Also have a generic tig/plasma setup. Not using that much right now but will tig the stainless tubing. This is my first rollcage. I have definately learned a lot. I know that it is by no means perfect but I am happy with the overall result. The X-bars were very difficult. My cheap tubing notcher only goes to 45 degrees and the x-bars are around 60 degrees. That meant a lot of hand notching. By the end I was getting much better and faster. There have been several comments on the amount of stitch welding/chasis stifening we are doing, I just want to clarify. We are building this car on a very strict $10,000 budget with the overall goal of creating a competative car ( with the right driver, not me ). We do not want to have to rebuild this car anytime soon. With that in mind we are probably going overboard to create a chasis that will hopefully stand up to the abuse of regular track days and regular competition. Perhaps we are dreaming big but can you blame us. Thanks for all the support,
JKP

HS13KLS · 03-31-2008, 08:14 PM

wow man... this is gettin good.. its turning out really well.. good job man

cbcustoms · 04-06-2008, 07:37 PM

Starting to look really good. What color are you doing on the exterior?

ms!3 · 04-06-2008, 07:48 PM

damn, nice build. looking forward to more updates.

PoorMans180SX · 04-06-2008, 08:08 PM

Looking good so far.

Nice fab.

SexPanda · 04-06-2008, 08:14 PM

i have so many ideas right now...

just out of shear curiosity... what is the total cost of your build to date? I already have the silvia front end so you dont need to include that.

i really want to just tear my car apart and do it right the first time, take my time with it, you know?

noname7198 · 04-06-2008, 08:23 PM

I've spent about $1500 just on the chassis. I'm not sure the total on the build, but it's under $10,000.

SexPanda · 04-06-2008, 08:25 PM

under 10 grand is doable. Are you going sr20? Seeing as how im working my ass off and still going to school, I dont have the time to do an sr20 swap. The people at Adrenaline Motorsports in STL quoted me 4500 for an sr20 swap done in house, if i end up going through them. Ive heard good stuff, but i want to make sure they dont half ass it. And i'll prolly have a 10 grand budget, so yeah... Damn i wish i had the time!!

noname7198 · 04-12-2008, 05:32 PM

Fit the front bumper:

I know the front end looks pretty banged up, but it was only like $350. It's all repairable, and will look great once it's fixed and painted (or I'll hit a wall and completly trash it first)...

On to the V-mount:

g-via · 04-12-2008, 05:35 PM

you are awesome.

Signum Temporis · 04-12-2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g-via

you are awesome.

x2... ive wanted to do the same this with the radiator/intercooler/fans

03-04-2008, 06:22 PM	#32
bo2o Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2006 Location: 626 socal! Posts: 1,315 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	so no ac or heat? __________________ fS! *vlsd ! slim fans ! hid kits ! lug nuts !* http://www.zilvia.net/f/search.php?d...earchuser=bo2o ^^^click^^^

03-04-2008, 09:06 PM	#35
dxs080jpgex Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: chandler, az Age: 37 Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats not the final shape of the cage is it? its awefully far from those a pillars great build though id love to find a coupe near me! __________________ I'm Making a conscious effort to be nicer 1989 coupe yay!

03-04-2008, 09:13 PM	#36
sijia10358 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: SoCal! 626! Age: 34 Posts: 1,075 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	wow! this looks like a interesting build up!!! i wanna see the finished product!!! __________________ [email protected] TIRE CENTRAL "DONALD" 626-227-0150 DRIFT SPEED "QUOC" 562-342-9000

03-04-2008, 09:31 PM	#37
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 37 Posts: 5,616 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	holy stitch welds batman! I take it you're going for chassis strength, because it seems like half of those would do. Did you make sure you had some way to keep the chassis from flexing with the heat? Cage and rear firewall look good. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

03-23-2008, 02:51 PM	#46
Landers Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: W Mass. Age: 37 Posts: 561 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: Landers Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Lovin this build! Car is coming out very nicely. Props! __________________ d-faction.com

03-04-2008, 06:19 PM	#31
jbuckley BANNED Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Land of Riche$ Posts: 297 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	im really diggin the trunk ! good luck on the build

03-04-2008, 06:25 PM	#33
IIIXziuR Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Left Hand Path Posts: 2,655 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	What MIG welder are you guys using and what is your set-up? Power? How are you performing the stitch welding on the chassis? Build looks real promosing, should be fun to follow your progress. Keep up the work fellas!

03-04-2008, 08:36 PM	#34
ByeByeSti Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire Age: 35 Posts: 803 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn, those welds lookin real good, wish mine came out that clean

03-04-2008, 09:36 PM	#38
Tomkun-s13 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hell Town USA Posts: 33 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good job on the build. You know you could just cut the end off the control arms and box them then add some heim joints. Not to much more work then what you've done.

03-05-2008, 10:59 PM	#39
IIIXziuR Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Left Hand Path Posts: 2,655 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Okay cool man, if you could ask your buddy about the welding and what not that would be awesome. Just trying to get a general idea of how it was done.

03-05-2008, 11:12 PM	#40
mugendork Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vista CA Age: 39 Posts: 339 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	just a thought, you said that your pipe bender was crushing the tubing? A cheap trick is to find a way to plug the ends, plumbing cap etc etc...plug one side, fill it completely with sand, then plug the other side, it should not collapse if done correctly...

03-05-2008, 11:34 PM	#41
kognition Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Santee California Posts: 2,107 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Looks like a good project car for 500 bucks. Off the top of my head: FIBERGLASS DASH" Don't get overly exotic making one. Pre Fabbed flat panels are the way to go for good weight loss. I think my dash is 3lb's. FUEL CELL: Not necessary right now until you start running race gas and need to control your weight (racing and TA anyway) But a good upgrade. 2 WAY DIFF: For drifting is fine. Not for racing or TA. For that you should stick with a Helical like a Quaife Helical LSD if you are serious about racing. SWAY BAR: For drifting you want a good rigid setup front and back. For race and TA you want a rigid setup in the front, and softer setup (stock) in the rear. WEIGHT REDUCTION: Plenty to be had starting with that sound deadening (30lb's) on that alone. Good luck and keep us updated.

03-05-2008, 11:42 PM	#42
eastcoastS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the land of snow potholes and no tracks Posts: 3,984 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	nice...where in MA are you located?

03-17-2008, 06:57 PM	#44
RedtopTech Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Age: 40 Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Any updates bud?

03-17-2008, 07:24 PM	#45
sac Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The SLC, Utah Age: 39 Posts: 794 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	looks like your off to a good start man.. That sucks the car is that far away.. I would hate not being able to go out and work on my car whenever.. stitch weldin looks good..

03-23-2008, 03:01 PM	#47
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 42 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	I would have mounted the fuel cell lower, almost in the stock location, personally. I would have also made the rear firewall and trunk floor out of aluminum to save weight as the cage should brace the back of the car good enough to not need the extra rigidity of the welded in firewall and trunk pan. I would really like to see what kognition has to say about my opinions though. Good overall build thoguh!

03-23-2008, 03:59 PM	#48
JesusFreakDrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: fort lauderdale Posts: 975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	excellent, subscribed, hopefully this turns out well. this is why zilvia needs a build section

03-24-2008, 12:27 AM	#49
sr20det drift Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: chi Posts: 112 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	SICK BRO, those are some nice ideas

03-24-2008, 06:42 PM	#50
turboh224g Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: philly Age: 45 Posts: 206 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	build Ok, it has been a while since I last posted. Been busy building. As far as the welder I am using, mostly MILLER 135, mig, 75/25 argon/CO2, 110 power, .030 wire for most and .024 for the sheet. Also have a generic tig/plasma setup. Not using that much right now but will tig the stainless tubing. This is my first rollcage. I have definately learned a lot. I know that it is by no means perfect but I am happy with the overall result. The X-bars were very difficult. My cheap tubing notcher only goes to 45 degrees and the x-bars are around 60 degrees. That meant a lot of hand notching. By the end I was getting much better and faster. There have been several comments on the amount of stitch welding/chasis stifening we are doing, I just want to clarify. We are building this car on a very strict $10,000 budget with the overall goal of creating a competative car ( with the right driver, not me ). We do not want to have to rebuild this car anytime soon. With that in mind we are probably going overboard to create a chasis that will hopefully stand up to the abuse of regular track days and regular competition. Perhaps we are dreaming big but can you blame us. Thanks for all the support, JKP

03-31-2008, 08:14 PM	#51
HS13KLS Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Illinois/California Age: 35 Posts: 1,114 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	wow man... this is gettin good.. its turning out really well.. good job man

04-06-2008, 07:37 PM	#52
cbcustoms Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: East Coast Age: 44 Posts: 450 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Starting to look really good. What color are you doing on the exterior? Last edited by cbcustoms; 04-06-2008 at 07:38 PM.. Reason: Added something

04-06-2008, 07:48 PM	#53
ms!3 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Age: 35 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	damn, nice build. looking forward to more updates.

04-06-2008, 08:08 PM	#54
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 37 Posts: 5,616 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Looking good so far. Nice fab. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

04-06-2008, 08:14 PM	#55
SexPanda Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Where ever there is free beer Posts: 3,239 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have so many ideas right now... just out of shear curiosity... what is the total cost of your build to date? I already have the silvia front end so you dont need to include that. i really want to just tear my car apart and do it right the first time, take my time with it, you know? __________________ BRAND NEW GReddy PRofec E-01 EBC for sale, Cheap!

04-06-2008, 08:23 PM	#56
noname7198 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: MA Age: 39 Posts: 339 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I've spent about $1500 just on the chassis. I'm not sure the total on the build, but it's under $10,000.

04-06-2008, 08:25 PM	#57
SexPanda Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Where ever there is free beer Posts: 3,239 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	under 10 grand is doable. Are you going sr20? Seeing as how im working my ass off and still going to school, I dont have the time to do an sr20 swap. The people at Adrenaline Motorsports in STL quoted me 4500 for an sr20 swap done in house, if i end up going through them. Ive heard good stuff, but i want to make sure they dont half ass it. And i'll prolly have a 10 grand budget, so yeah... Damn i wish i had the time!! __________________ BRAND NEW GReddy PRofec E-01 EBC for sale, Cheap!

04-12-2008, 05:32 PM	#58
noname7198 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: MA Age: 39 Posts: 339 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Fit the front bumper: I know the front end looks pretty banged up, but it was only like $350. It's all repairable, and will look great once it's fixed and painted (or I'll hit a wall and completly trash it first)... On to the V-mount:

04-12-2008, 05:35 PM	#59
g-via Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: B.C., Canada Posts: 1,023 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you are awesome.