2008 Nopi Qualifier: Get your Nopi Drift License!!!

[cfrost]

lol you really don't know what you're talking about with the judges

I had a few guys ask me to drive their cars to help them out with learning some new stuff

there was a lot of joking around up there, but you sound like you're getting a little mad and frustrated about everything

remember: there were drivers who DID IT with the same resources, those are the drivers who were ready to compete in that series

when you complain about this stuff it makes it look like you're not ready as a driver

always blame yourself, it works out better in the long run

[ericcastro]

Thankyou for the reply's Cfrost and KoukiChic. And thankyou for replying professionaly without personal feelings getting involved, good or bad.
It helps explain it a bit to all of us that are at a loss for words cause we were still trying to figure out exactlly what happened.

i think the main thing is for the Host and the Nopi people to be on the same page as to the format. The 10-12 runs thing really messed everyone up. If there is 1 practice run, thats fine with me, as long as I know. i wont show up with a new set up thinking I have time to adjust. (Yes, my desicion, but I could have avoided it had I known

PERSONALLY
And I still am pissed with my driving. I could care less about the license. The fact that I couldn't link the whole thing really pissed me off. the course conditions were EXTREMELY difficult. I havent spun out that much in a llooooonnnnggggg time. I wanted to link the whole thing with my SOHC, just to show my level and that it can be done. Thats why I am so bummed about the early cut off. But understand why it happened now.
I think if I do attend next year or another event there, my car will be Turbo'd, so I will never have achieved that course. i hate unfinished goals
thankyou



EDIT

Thanks crysis for the NEG rep and the "idiot" comment. I explained back that what I posted are honest concerns adn opinion. the OP's replied back professinally and put alot of light on things for us. I dont know how I am an IDIOT?? but I posi repped you back and expect the same from you by the end of the week.

Thanks to Kouki Chick for the grey box. You cant rep someone till you have enough post. But since you left no comment, I imagine it would have been an attempt at giving me a RED square?? Very unprofessional. I am a patron of your event, paid money and drove a long way to be there. But I could be wrong, maybe It was an attempted GREEN box??

[brainfood]

I cant believe what I have read in the last 2 pages, I have no affiliation with NOPI or the organization that hosted this event. But I have been around for a little while and held an fd license, hosted events and head judge and course design for a 5 round series. I can tell you that having less practice time was the correct decision and whoever made it should be given a big hug because if you cant link the course in the first 3 runs then you are not ready for a proffesional level. I know that NOPI is a stepping stone series to bigger events but you need to learn and train yourself now for the real deal. Not take NOPI or smaller comps as just practice comps. You should be proffesional at every event you attend and take whats given to you. If you didnt qualify its because you arent a good enough driver and you wouldnt have done well in NOPI anyway. Look at JTP in Los Angeles NOPI last year. Spent all night working on the car showed up and had 1 practice run and qualified and went on to win it. Do you think he cried about not having enough practice? No he just put his head down and did what was needed. I promise you that course was alot harder course than the kart track in the desert. These are my opinions and I want everyone that is complaining to understand that this is how qualifiers work and if you are going to be around drifting for any length of time you need to get used to it now.

[i need tires]

Originally Posted by cfrost

RUNS were opened after the competition, so it sounds like more of a complaint about not having practice rather than not having practice time

lots of entries = stuff changes

i think i just dont like hearing people complain about drift events

No one is complaining man, well i sure as hell know im not. But if you were told something and then it totally changed wouldnt that have you asking questions and also addressing the situation... if not then im sorry i hate being told one thing and getting something totally different.

[azndoc]

I personally was pissed at myself for my lack of flexibility as far as the track layout was. It was do able, but I just wasn't able to do it with the lack of practice laps that we were given. But that is no fault of anyone except my own.

I voiced my opinion about the event to Aubrey at the end of the event. I was just ranting about stuff. Mostly how I hate Arizona. About 95% of it was just bullshitting and hopefully she doesn't really think that I hate AZ.

It was a good lesson learned on my part. Be prepared for the unexpected and be ready to adapt to any situation. I can't blame anyone except for myself.

I'm still not going back to AZ. lol

Waffle house was good though, first time I had it. Just the waffle was good though, everything else sucked. The driving there sucked and the driving back sucked. HTM the next day was awesome.

Thanks to the turnstyle staff which were very helpful to me.

Props to everyone who made it out there some close and some far away.

I hope that everyone just takes the opportunity to see it as a lesson learned.

Colin just to let you know I taped Mr. T to the top of my car for HTM and he died a painful decapitation death due to Taka running him over. Jared did manage to find his head for me.

[cfrost]

....does he still bobble?

cyrus told me you were killing it at htm

i shoulda gone but after that drive back i was fried

i have no idea how naoki does it

[azndoc]

No Mr. T no longer bobbles no more.

Couldn't find his body section.

Yeah you should've gone back you little girl.

lol

I didn't get there until 2 in the afternoon. I had to sleep.

Yeah with Cyrus on my ass the whole time I had to drive better.

Oh yeah just to let everyone know. Colin wants to touch my thingy. But I said no.

Naoki is made of steel and heart that's how he does it. Or he could just be crazy.

Fun weekend. I'd like to say thanks to Drift Association, Megan Racing, and Turnstyle.

[Kouki Chick]

You killed Mr. T!!!
I need your address...I am sending AZ to you!

[mbvigil]

This was a challenging event and it was easy to get discouraged and beat yourself. Looking back it was a good experience, also very humbling I don't think anybody saw the dirt as much as me and my poor 14. It's probably the first rally car with a bnsports kit

[azndoc]

Originally Posted by Kouki Chick

You killed Mr. T!!!
I need your address...I am sending AZ to you!

Yes Mr. T died honorably though.



Mr. T you will be missed. Photo courtesy of Alex V.

Why do you want my address? So you can send me AZ sand as you said. lol

Oh and I would also like to thanks Mr. Colin Frost for being such a awesome dude that he drove the truck and trailer back for me since he knew that I was really tired. Such a gentleman.

[ericcastro]

So here is a video clip from my last run. After the qualifyers. After i gave up on changing tire pressure on the rears (Falken912's). and put my crappy dailies in the back, and the 912's in the front. I also found a rusty piece of bailing wire to hold my exhaust line up

I just wanted to have some fun so I mahjied a little on way to the first corner. You can tell how sticky the track is though. I am SOHC with a welded.
and you can see as soon as you hit the Kart apex, it gets icy. and I spun
I also was about 4 feet wide on the second clip and had initiated late. I was understeering all day and having to ebrake in after a failed clutch kick attempt. But even then my SOHC doesn't have the power to puch through that little straight.
I should have gotten into third, fient and dumped it in second, clutch locking my initiation. I think that would have given me more speed, better angle and aloud me to tighten that line up.



and dont think i left empty handed.

i bought my own trophy on the way home

[driftninja]

i heard there were drivers linking the course in semi-stock corollas.

umm first off you heard wrong. I dont understand why people are recieving negative rep for sharing their opinion of the event, obviously it is to improve upon events in the future. You people are acting like a bunch of fucking nazi's. why dont you try burning some books
I attended the event and drove 13 hours to get there, First off I was more than anything dissappointed in my driving than anything else, I was able to clear the first turn and almost clear the 2nd in my very first practice run and sequentially i got worse through out the day. the course was very technical and very demanding. they broke us up in to groups at first which worked great because you were able to make notes of your mistakes and correct them while your vehicle was in the same condition ie: tire engine tranny diff temp. after that things just went down hill I could see the judges were annoyed with peoples lack of driving skill. but there was plenty of time to give us at least 8 out of the 10-12 practice runs you promised seeing that all in all the event pretty much ended at 1:30pm and we had the track till 5:00pm. again like stated before 3-4 is possible if you know that from the start.
I think all in all i learned a lot from this event 1st dont EVER go to AZ for a drift event after you confirm the amount a practice time. 2nd dont share your opinion so future drift events will run smoother.
After all said i would like to thank all of turnstyle for putting it together im sure it demanded alot of work, and i hope everyone that left early to get drunk and high enjoyed it as opposed to staying a few hours as planned to help this sport grow.

[SUPERSTAR]

Originally Posted by crysis

i heard there were drivers linking the course in semi-stock corollas.

Thanks for the Neg Rep.... seriously. My first...won't lose sleep over it.

[JMJom]

lol @ waffle house

MOTHAFUCKIN WAFFLE HOOOOOOOOUSE

gj jeffrey jones

[crysis]

sweet. getting zilvia stalked.

i guess the attitude has changed quite a bit in this thread going from 'screw the event/judges/hosts' to a bit more understanding.

i just earned 4 neg reps from the same dude trolling my posts back since 2004... i'm so stoked. i also got a personal threat.

the internet is serious business and i need to take it more seriously.

[splicer]

Originally Posted by cfrost

lol you really don't know what you're talking about with the judges

I had a few guys ask me to drive their cars to help them out with learning some new stuff

there was a lot of joking around up there, but you sound like you're getting a little mad and frustrated about everything

remember: there were drivers who DID IT with the same resources, those are the drivers who were ready to compete in that series

when you complain about this stuff it makes it look like you're not ready as a driver

always blame yourself, it works out better in the long run

That's a real quote right there.

I always thought I was a pretty good drifter, I thought I was ready to go pro, this event made me realize I still have work to do, for that, I am thankful. Sure there were a lot of problems with the event, but overall I think it was fair. Sorry to the guys who drove a long distance to make it out, but I kind of knew we weren't going to get 10 runs, at most I thought 5 then qualifying. Like you said, 5 guys got their licenses, and Austin makes 6, so it can be done. The guys who weren't able to run the whole course in the given time, they need to work on their drift game or maybe car. I know that I have done few decreasing radius turns, have never done a long sweeper like the second turn, and this was my first time drifting on such a right course, so that right there are 3 things I need to work on. I hope others can take away some positive things from this event as well.

[Jeff Jones]

sup guys I'm new here and yes I drive a rx7,
so anyways Ya practice sucked. I drove 500 miles there just for 3 junk practice laps. but guess what I didn't go there to practice I went to get a license and some MOTHAFUCKIN WAFFLE HOOOOOOOOUSE .

[Riken]

Interesting, voice your opinion, loose 50 rep points. You guys trying to make up for something here? About the judges I was just saying what was told to me by a good friend that was standing under the judging booth the entire day. I'm not saying that I didn't suck it up or trying to blame the judges for not doing well. If this is what you got from my posts then i'm sorry I didn't make myself more clear.
I'm not upset I didn't get a license. I'm upset that it seemed like Collin Frost wanted to be there, and that's about it. Nobody else did judging wise that is. everyone with turnstyle did a great job. He was stoked about the event from beginning to end and was serious about helping everyone with anything needed. Everyone else just kinda said what you wanted to hear to make you go away. That's how I felt anyways. Collin, you did a fantastic job and you will be getting a +1. On a lighter note, We are going to see if we can't make the Utah Nopi a Qualifying round in July. If you are interested in these let's hear some voices so we know that it will be worth setting up and let Nopi know there are still a lot of people that can and will come. Oh one last thing, the guy with the tires...He charges so much for used tires lol.

[drift monster]

waffle house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

raw jay six nyukkA!

my rx7 made it there and back!

yea, i had 3 junk practice laps too and came back with the mike peters award for best initiation! time to get the easiest car to drift....240sx!!!

[i need tires]

Originally Posted by Riken

Interesting, voice your opinion, loose 50 rep points. You guys trying to make up for something here? About the judges I was just saying what was told to me by a good friend that was standing under the judging booth the entire day. I'm not saying that I didn't suck it up or trying to blame the judges for not doing well. If this is what you got from my posts then i'm sorry I didn't make myself more clear.
I'm not upset I didn't get a license. I'm upset that it seemed like Collin Frost wanted to be there, and that's about it. Nobody else did judging wise that is. everyone with turnstyle did a great job. He was stoked about the event from beginning to end and was serious about helping everyone with anything needed. Everyone else just kinda said what you wanted to hear to make you go away. That's how I felt anyways. Collin, you did a fantastic job and you will be getting a +1. On a lighter note, We are going to see if we can't make the Utah Nopi a Qualifying round in July. If you are interested in these let's hear some voices so we know that it will be worth setting up and let Nopi know there are still a lot of people that can and will come. Oh one last thing, the guy with the tires...He charges so much for used tires lol.

that the web address to the forums in Utah? I plan on attending Nopi in Utah.

[crysis]

jeff who? jeff who? jeff who? jeff JONES

[brainfood]

Originally Posted by Riken

Interesting, voice your opinion, loose 50 rep points. You guys trying to make up for something here? About the judges I was just saying what was told to me by a good friend that was standing under the judging booth the entire day. I'm not saying that I didn't suck it up or trying to blame the judges for not doing well. If this is what you got from my posts then i'm sorry I didn't make myself more clear.
I'm not upset I didn't get a license. I'm upset that it seemed like Collin Frost wanted to be there, and that's about it. Nobody else did judging wise that is. everyone with turnstyle did a great job. He was stoked about the event from beginning to end and was serious about helping everyone with anything needed. Everyone else just kinda said what you wanted to hear to make you go away. That's how I felt anyways. Collin, you did a fantastic job and you will be getting a +1. On a lighter note, We are going to see if we can't make the Utah Nopi a Qualifying round in July. If you are interested in these let's hear some voices so we know that it will be worth setting up and let Nopi know there are still a lot of people that can and will come. Oh one last thing, the guy with the tires...He charges so much for used tires lol.

Go back and read your posts and you will see that it wasnt your opinions stated it was a whole lot of bitching, then read Colins or my post thats how you post opinions. Not attacking anyone and not making assumptions. Pure fact. Pure fact of the matter is you didnt get your license because you werent ready. Thats just how it is. I know alot of really good drivers that tried out for FD many many times and didnt get licensed because they werent consistent or werent ready. Being able to drift a good lap at a practice day on a track you drive every month is not skill its just training.

[mugendork]

Hey guys this is Jared, Cyrus' "Professional Assistant" lol. I would have to say from my perspective AZ was royally gay. Not because of the event coordinators, but from the quality of the drivers. It seemed to me that nobody was really prepared for the event. The only guy I truly feel bad for was the driver of the naked s13 who got 6th place...And to say that the judges just wanted to leave early so they could go party is BS! More like try to not die on the fwy during the 11 hour drive back. HTM on Sunday did rock though..... 6 hours of sleep over the course of a 4 day 96 hour weekend....I can hang...

[driftninja]

[QUOTE]Go back and read your posts and you will see that it wasnt your opinions stated it was a whole lot of bitching, then read Colins or my post thats how you post opinions[/QUOTE
hahaha i believe there is more than one way to post an opinion....being that its an opinion!!. no one is bitching about not getting a licence, they are frustrated that after all the effort preparing and traveling that after 3 warmup rnds the judges decided they had better things to do than watch all of us learn a decreasing radius entry....which ill have to admit was pretty entertaining

[driftninja]

[quote]Go back and read your posts and you will see that it wasnt your opinions stated it was a whole lot of bitching, then read Colins or my post thats how you post opinions[/QUOTE
hahaha i believe there is more than one way to post an opinion....being that its an opinion!!. no one is bitching about not getting a licence, they are frustrated that after all the effort preparing and traveling that after 3 warmup rnds the judges decided they had better things to do than watch all of us learn a decreasing radius entry....which ill have to admit was pretty entertaining

[driftninja]

sorry for double post

[cfrost]

i think you're missing the point..

licensing events are not for learning, you should be prepared as a driver to handle any course before you drive on it---that includes already knowing how to drive any type of corner including decreasing radius.

Think of licensing events as showing up to showcase your skill, the only thing you should learn from a licensing event is whether or not you need to come back and try again

[ilia]

Originally Posted by ericcastro

And the track conditions is a whole other can of worms. The track sucked. It was sticky till it got to the parts where the Karts hit the apex, then it was like ice. I had an extremely hard time getting the car to step out and set. Then when you hit the apex, the car tends to spin. Corner 1 is really easy to drift. But it was spin out heaven for alot of people, including me. i understand every track cant be perfect, and we are expected to adjust. So I am just letting you know what I felt about that course as well as other drivers I talked to at the end of the day.

The track conditions were fine. I drove it later that same day, and it wasn't too crazy hard to drive. If you were having trouble with it, you weren't driving it right, it's as simple as that. It's not the track's fault you can't drive, it's yours.

The other drivers probably felt the same, because they ALSO couldn't drive. All I saw all day was people NOT feinting, NOT clutch kicking, NOT using momentum, and not initiating right EVER. There were a few exceptions, and people who were doing pretty well, but many of the people there were driving as if it was their first time at a drift event. I can see why they'd be upset about the lack of practice time, then.

The judges expected an event where the best amateur drivers would come and showcase their skill, to try and get a NOPI license to compete on a more professional level.

The drivers were expecting a day of practice to improve their skill. They did not come with good ability in hand, they came with the desire to improve. That's fine for a drift day, but you should NOT be understeering your way around the course at a NOPI, Formula D, or D1 qualifier. Something's wrong then.

Just my opinion.

[brainfood]

Originally Posted by ilia

Just my opinion.

And your opinion is spot on.

[Dousan_PG]

^^

agreed


bring your a game to any comps
haha.
course looked not bad. seems like fun