Parts you dont need...?

[eulalia]

Originally Posted by Pacman

How? Does it help kill it?

You're in Folsom? Same here. What do you drive?

he drives the most bad ass 2jz renault.. lol

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by johngriff

Its there to prevent under hood fires dude.

What? Who told you that? Once it gets soaked with oil and graese it would do more to encourage a fire than prevent it.

[Pacman]

Originally Posted by eulalia

he drives the most bad ass 2jz renault.. lol

I saw a Renault here the other day, no joke. Ugly as sin, too. Don't think it was 2JZ powered, though. What color, chassis model, etc. Jeez, curious which of the few I've seen was his.

[2,1]

damn 60 bucks that way too much for that. I will just wait and get one for 20 bucks off of one of thease guys on here. But yeah you all made some good points about if its there its there for good reason, witch is why I haven't taken any of that stuff off. I just thought I would do my research and find out what the other s14 drivers had to say about it. But that damn heat sheild looks so damn ugly on the headers. I ended up grinding them down along with the "black top" thats not black I just forgot whats its called, I think its the head cover or something, but anyway I grinded those down because its looked like crap, had to take the spark plug wires out and plug them with a towel and take a square tiny sand paper and clean around it. I used a power drill with a wire dremal type thing for the big parts. Worked pretty good for the most part, but that damned heat sheild still looks ugly ass hell but if it keeps my ac going then I dont care how ugly it looks its stayin. I live in florida and its about to starting getting really hot down hear so there is no way im taking the risk...lol
It would prpably look pretty good power coated though. just a thought. Anyway like the boys said if it aint broak dont fix it. thanks guys

[eulalia]

Originally Posted by Pacman

I saw a Renault here the other day, no joke. Ugly as sin, too. Don't think it was 2JZ powered, though. What color, chassis model, etc. Jeez, curious which of the few I've seen was his.

lol he doesnt drive one its kind of an inside joke sorry.. lol

not sure what he drives now, his coupe is in long beach

[Pacman]

Originally Posted by eulalia

lol he doesnt drive one its kind of an inside joke sorry.. lol

not sure what he drives now, his coupe is in long beach

I got that, hence the

[2ilvia]

you definitely dont need your top timing chain guide, get this;

i bought an s14 an hour away and drove it home, next day i went to take the guide out and when i took the valve cover off i saw that the guide had broken and an angel kept it from sliding down into the timing chain cover which would have resulted in engine failure.

so everybody, take that thing out!

heres a pic

[didderson]

Thanks for discussing the engine insulation guys lol. I'm glad I learned something new. In my case I haven't had problems with anyone I know that we removed it so I was under the impression that it didn't do much at all.

^ definitely remove those. My KA ran fine without that thing, but it did not run right with the wrong ignition timing and sohc piston swap lol. Live and learn.

Nice sig 2ilvia. U like 'Justice'?

[johngriff]

I drive a black E36 BMW 4 door. Um Yeah if you want to meet up, or know of a meet, I am always down, usually just chilling at the house since i moved up here a month ago.

I was always told that they melt down and off to prevent under hood fires, kind of like putting a lid on a burning pot.

I like those chain guides, if they are breaking/wearing like that you probably have a stretched/worn timing chain or loose tensioner. Take the valve cover back off and look at the underside of it where the tensioner was. It might be getting chewed.

And I will take my renault with an SR thank you.

[gotta240]

^^^ Why do you like those guides? They are utter crap and serve no good except making noise and clogging oil pickups, etc. Take that fucking chain guide OFF. It has caused MULTIPLE engine failures and therefore was REMOVED by NISSAN.


On a side note, how the hell does a piece of plastic UNDER then engine cause air to be rammed through the radiator?

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by gotta240

On a side note, how the hell does a piece of plastic UNDER then engine cause air to be rammed through the radiator?

It goes from the bumper lip to around the oil pan. The air that goes in through the bumper and grill can only go through the radiator not under the car.

[aznpoopy]

Originally Posted by gotta240

^^^ Why do you like those guides? They are utter crap and serve no good except making noise and clogging oil pickups, etc. Take that fucking chain guide OFF. It has caused MULTIPLE engine failures and therefore was REMOVED by NISSAN.

assuming it actually stays in place, it lets you know you have a slack chain problem (when chain hits guide) before you have a ridiculously super slack chain problem (chain hitting valve cover, etc)

too bad they break all the time. my first ka guide actually unbolted itself. bolts were bouncing around randomly around the cams. O_o

[2ilvia]

Originally Posted by johngriff

Take the valve cover back off and look at the underside of it where the tensioner was. It might be getting chewed.

yeah the underside of the valve cover had 2 marks where the guide was bouncing side to side

Nice sig 2ilvia. U like 'Justice'?

sorry never heard of, i got the idea from unco same's song 'eferydays goes to skoos'

It has caused MULTIPLE engine failures and therefore was REMOVED by NISSAN.

yeah i think they made a TSB where they told all their dealers to throw them out

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by johngriff

I was always told that they melt down and off to prevent under hood fires, kind of like putting a lid on a burning pot.

I never thought of that. I wonder if that is how they reall work, it makes some sense.

Originally Posted by S14DB

It goes from the bumper lip to around the oil pan. The air that goes in through the bumper and grill can only go through the radiator not under the car.

On the s-13's the bumper itself directs air towards the radiator, on 14's it may be different though. What that tray really does though is separates the airflow going under the car from the airflow going through the radiator. This reduces underhood pressure a bit which promotes better airflow across the radiator. Without that panel those two flows come crashing together which slows the flow across the radiator and creates more underhood pressure. I have never heard of anyone overheating because that panel is missing, but it reduces the aerodynamic efficiency of the car a bit.

[2,1]

Originally Posted by 2ilvia

you definitely dont need your top timing chain guide, get this;

i bought an s14 an hour away and drove it home, next day i went to take the guide out and when i took the valve cover off i saw that the guide had broken and an angel kept it from sliding down into the timing chain cover which would have resulted in engine failure.

so everybody, take that thing out!

heres a pic

ok, im guessing its under the valve cover....If I take the valve cover off don't I need to replace the gasket too. ive never seen the internals of the ka some im a bit lost. Good post to the thread tho.

[johngriff]

I think that is the SR guide.. not sure though.

I was talking about checking the Valve cover for the chain wearing into it. I've seen it happen after that guide was removed.

[2ilvia]

ah, no my chain seems a little too tight to be hitting the valve cover, and thats a ka guide for sure, i took the pic, maybe they're interchangeable?