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Old 05-08-2008, 01:46 AM   #61
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but for sure, everybody with "Young" or "Lil" in their name is horrible. Even their name aint original. I saw Young Joc perform at a long beach club and it sounded horrible... he was just decked out in a wife beater and some shades, a hat and some chains and just sang his radio songs and did a few typical "yo whats up people !" bs lol
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This list is retarded and is teeming with baseless hate.
I mean, seriously... Based on the merits of the lyrics on his first album, Bubba Sparxxx has no place on this list.
Based upon the merits of what he presented himself to be, and what he was sustained to be, Will Smith has no place on this list.
Based on the money he has paid people to write his rhymes down through the years, Diddy has no place on this list.
Based upon the presence of titties and ass (and the excusability that South Florida booty music affords), 2 Live Crew has no place on this list.
Hammer, based upon the fact that he changed what was Avant Garde at the time, does not deserve to be that high up the list. Vanilla Ice, compared to what else is there and what COULD be there also does not deserve to be that hight up the list... The industry should never forgive either of them, though.

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snoop should be on there....that fool is DEAD to me....old snoop i can live with...but the shit he's put out recently...he needs to stick to coaching football, if he's even any good at that
Thats true Snoop used to be sick back in the day with "Whats My Name" and "Gin N Juices". But now he just needs to call it quites Deathrow owened the rap game back then.

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i couldnt buy a lil wayne album but im startin to like his sound...
Na lil wayne the only good songs he makes are the one that come out on the radio.

Well to me hip hop/rap is dead theres nothing good anymore like there used to be.
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im gonna just say this.

KRS-One is the best.

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(keep in mind ive been listening to KRS-One for like 3 weeks straight now...)
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I cant believe some people say that lil wayne is nice and saying only lupe and kanye can hang with him..that has to be a joke right!! just cause he gets alot of features don't mean he hot!! i guess they would think that jim jones is nice too he got a lot of spots last year and he can't rap for shit...

Oh and on the dope list.. Nas first 4 albums , Krs-one for sure , Cool G rap , Big L .. real hip hop not this shit that people swear is hot!!
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i can't stand 50cent either.
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i can't stand 50cent either.
Ditto. his first album was good, but after that he did a better Ja-Rule impression then Ja-Rule.

WORST Line EVER in a hip-hop song goes to him:

'From the beginning to the end
Losers loose, winners win.'

Nothing like that should ever come from the mouth of a man who at one time was considered an underground lyrical king. From that point, I just lost any and all respect for him.
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Thats grimey, Will Smith won a grammy. He's not responsible for anything after 98 lol.
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i can't stand 50cent either.
For real, how many different ways can you combine the following phrases...

"on dubs"
"in da club"
"shake/bounce dat ass girl"
"come on/let's go"
"make it pop"
"don't stop"

...into a song?

Oh, a lot? And it sells millions? Seriously? Even Kanye West isn't this bad.
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Thats grimey, Will Smith won a grammy. He's not responsible for anything after 98 lol.
"parents just don't understand"

and apparently, neither does Yahoo.

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"parents just don't understand"

and apparently, neither does Yahoo.

lol
I was telling my wife about the list and SHE even said they are nuts.

Mel's Wife knowledge of hip-hop > Yahoo's
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even old school DMX was cool like before his first album and the album was fire..Style P is hot not a fan of jadakiss he don't write his shit styles does but jada freestylin is sick just not his written sheek is garbage!! yea 50 was hot on his first album.. i always say this:

Rappers who have been out who are wack now it's because to the public they've reached that " i know im nice status" so it don't matter what they say now cause its automatically gonna be hot.. thats the way i see it..
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becasue general society is THAT retarded
Fuckin Hilarious!!!

Agreed I haven't really listened to the radio since 05, maybe listen to it once in awhile when I'm driving my parent's car around doing errands, but other than that shit just isn't the same as it used to be....
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im gonna just say this.

KRS-One is the best.

flame suit on.

(keep in mind ive been listening to KRS-One for like 3 weeks straight now...)
No flame suit needed. The real deal right there.

on a side note, you hear that new 2pac track?
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hey do record companies pay radio stations to play their shit? im pretty sure media influence is what sells crap music
They do pay them, but they're not supposed to... Google "payola" and see what you come up with.
But yes, media influence IS what sells crap music, that is the name of the game. You pine for face-time, you want to have your video on 106th & Park where the 13 year-old minority girls want to learn your dance and sing along to your song. You want your video to be in that 20-30 minutes a week that MTV actually shows music videos, you want your shit on the radio, played at intermissions at sporting events and used in commercials... Sad, yes it really is, but it is what it is.



The people that kill me are the ones who swear that a musician can't be any good if they can get their shit on the radio, instead choosing to stick to lame and outwardly bitter and self-righteous "underground" artists who make songs about being underground and how bad the people who have actually succeeded in the business are. Shit, I love some "underground" artists, but I swear I can't sit and listen to that shit all day, I would lose my damned mind. Every once in a while, someone must be shot, fucked, sold drugs to or SOMETHING to keep my attention, it is kinda like a good movie when you stop and think about it. In such, I actually LIKE Lil' Wayne. I am in the opinion, though, that he goes harder on his mixtapes than he does on his albums, but once one takes one of them in, as opposed to sitting back and blindly crying out of your sandy vagina "awww, that shit sucks," without ever even giving a chance.
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True that phlip and i hate all those ghetto ass snap ya finger lean right crank dat fucking songs grrrr those songs are so wack but it sells shit i'm about to make one call the "ski-slope" haha j/p
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aiite aiite my turn to chime in

first things first aftermath

i can't stand rappers like: rocko, young joc, 50cent, tony yayo, loydd banks the list goes of goons goes on

the rap game as of now..


lil wayne: will basically flow over anything and kill it, his swagger and his lyrics are so ingenious and has grown from being a "hot boy/cash money millionaire" to a young money monsta. he's gained my respect through mixtapes and collabos

young jeezy: his voice and swag is on point but he's only hot on other peoples tracks i was very dissapointed when i heard "the inspiration" and could only point on a couple songs i liked

rick ross: the trilla album is AMAZING! probably 1 or 2 tracks i'll skip through but he's definately holdin it down for miami on the kahled mixtapes and maybach music with JAY-Z

kanye west: awesome producer but when he hops on tracks his parts are meh... i like graduation though and he gained my respect there

THE GAME!: singled handedly brought west coast hip hop back on the map and came out on top after the G-unot beef. games lyrics can sometimes be a little repetative but his mixtape shit is where its at if you haven't downloaded "unowwhatitiz vol 4" do it! the game is the reason 50 can't rap about being a thug anymore notice how all his albums now are about clubs cars or sex??

jay-z: probably my favorite rapper ever since "reasonable doubt" although his last 2 albums were whatever you gotta look back and see how much he's accomplished and what he's done for the rap game his albums never get old

i can go on and on about the rap game but those are 5 off the top
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jay-z: probably my favorite rapper ever since "reasonable doubt" although his last 2 albums were whatever you gotta look back and see how much he's accomplished and what he's done for the rap game his albums never get old
Jay-Z is my favorite rapper of all time. I actually think American Gangster is his best album since Blueprint. People don't give him enough respect. Judging him solely on the hits on the radio. Dude's put in work. His first album IS a certified classic. What he's done to change the game is unmatched, even by Ditty.

Dude, you and me have been on the same page lately.
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Yes I know, its also Hardware and you have to have someone who knows how to use it.
And that part is far from easy...
I have come to prefer the use of Ableton Live! personally, this was after learning to use Steinberg Cubase, which is only a little less difficult to learn than is pro-tools, especially when teaching yourself.
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I've played around with all that stuff.. its way over my head. I have enough boring junk I have to learn for work.. dont need another three inch tech book. I just play though my amp and record w/ a mic.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:39 AM   #89
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Jay-Z is my favorite rapper of all time. I actually think American Gangster is his best album since Blueprint. People don't give him enough respect. Judging him solely on the hits on the radio. Dude's put in work. His first album IS a certified classic. What he's done to change the game is unmatched, even by Ditty.

Dude, you and me have been on the same page lately.



mel you mah best friend

on of my friends has always been against jay-z since i've met him just cause of nas's "ether" diss i mean yea that track was pretty hot but all nas can do is rap about how ugly jay-z is

i showed him jay-z's "the takeover" diss track which was produced by kanye west and it blew his mind now he's asking me if he can burn my blue print album

and for you guys that like BIG L go on youtube and type in "jay-z big L 7 min freestyle" its amazing
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The Takeover is my favorite diss track ever. Either was OK, but Takeover was personal and never ending. Super Ugly wasn't a very good response to Either.

The best response to the whole beef is that Jay-Z is now his boss. FOR THE WIN!
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