The Future Automotive Thread

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by Gnnr

It can also be disastrous....like that Simpsons episode where Homer designs a car. lol. But yes, I have been reading of a lot of car companies doing that lately...with our luck they'll probably go to some other 240sx site though....

like nico??

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by jmd8590

with drifting growing ever more popular among youngsters

they might just have to make a cheap turbo 4 cyl

25000 def not gunna cut it

uh...25 grand for a fully loaded, 4 cyl rwd sports coupe WILL cut it...the nissan sports coupe will roughly run 3-5 grand more than the genesis sports coupe...and roughly 2-3 grand more than the "toybaru" sports coupe from toyota/subaru (might want to take a better look at the current market before you mention another statement like that again)

Originally Posted by jmd8590

you know if this concept comes out it will most likely be a 6

highly unlikely...the new coupe is an ENTRY level sports coupe for nissan...its a shot in the dark right now if 2 models will be offered...but im gonna take an educated guess and say nissan will offer the car in 4 cyl NA and 4 cyl turbo...the 6 cyl option is completely assinine for an entry level rwd coupe from nissan (the ONLY reason the genesis sports coupe from hyundai is being made in a V6 config is so that i can be marketed in two different positons against car manufacturers from japan and europe...nissan already has its mid range bases covered with the Z...and their high end range covered with the GTR...nissan has NO entry level range covered)

but again...please re-read about 10-12 pages back...weve covered all of this

Originally Posted by jmd8590

they should sell it as an incomplete car w/o bumpers or any of that crap just to make the 240 fanboys happy

you could make it look exactly how you want it

seriously...

last time i checked...this isnt 1990...and its not a base model accord with a big H on the front of the hood

that above comment really irked me for some odd reason

[dorkidori_s13]

im being very pissy tonight if anyone cant tell....

[dued]

Originally Posted by Somnambulist

That would be retarded.

A flat black engine bay for every color option would be really smart. This way you wouldn't have to get the engine bay repainted every time you wanted to change the color of your car. For instance, if you wanted to change a red car to white, all you have to do is get the door jambs / exterior repainted, done. This is a simple and uniform way to make the car more appealing to a bigger market. Anyways, I think that a lot of old muscle cars came with flat black engine bays regardless of the exterior color.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by racer98

btw, would be nice if you guys can give some good input about what should the new car have and not have etc and so on with feedback, belive it or not lots of car makers have been lurking on forums........

should see what Ferrari does on (Ferrari chat) kekekekekekkekeke.

Toyota did that on one of the 86 forums. I'd be delighted if I got the opportunity to do so. I believe I have a good handle on what WE as a community are looking for and also what they manufacturers need to make the car salable and profitable.

I won't hold my breath though. Unfortunately I haven't heard of Nissan reaching out to the community like Toyota has.

[jmd8590]

hey dorkidori

im just sayin that not every 240 enthusiast is going to have 25000 bucks to spend on their dream car

lets face it

most of us dont

for 25000 it should be a 6

and if it is a 4 the price would have to be less than that


but whatever, this isnt an off topic thread where you post opinions or anything

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by jmd8590

hey dorkidori

im just sayin that not every 240 enthusiast is going to have 25000 bucks to spend on their dream car

lets face it

most of us dont

for 25000 it should be a 6

and if it is a 4 the price would have to be less than that


but whatever, this isnt an off topic thread where you post opinions or anything

25 grand by todays standards for a sports car is dirt cheap...even i could afford that

im gonna take a stab in the dark here and guess youre either still in your teens/early 20s...or you are a broke ass college student (not being insulting...college takes a heavy toll on your finances)

knowing that nissan will be offering a RWD 4 cyl TURBO sports coupe for 25 grand gets me super excited...i know that the day they introduce it to the market...i will be able to go to nissan and actually AFFORD it

and dood...if you want a 25 grand sports car thats 6 cyl...go get a used Z or G...the G and Z are both being moved up the expenses bracket slightly with the 370z and G37...given theyre both running about 5-7 grand more than their previous incarnations...nissan NEEDS to fill that hole with a entry level coupe that will easily be affordable by the "20 something" generation...and i cant wait to help fill that void hheehehe

[nismobro]

i would buy this
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6890

[DreamN]

^ not bad, front needs work though.

[dorkidori_s13]

thats not a bad fake...ill give the person who made that credit...but the one big boo boo they made was not cleaning up the dirt on the left side of the pic correctly...lots of clone tool patterning going on there

im hoping for something a bit sleeker in design from nissan for the new sports coupe...but if that pic from GT2012 is a true rendering...then sleek is DEFFINATLY on nissans list (especially with those arching head and tail lamps on to the sides of the car)

[WILDACEX187]

1.6L turbo? 225hp? count me in? YES!!!!

[jmd8590]

did you guys comment on that website

cuz there's some flamage going on

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by jmd8590

hey dorkidori

im just sayin that not every 240 enthusiast is going to have 25000 bucks to spend on their dream car

lets face it

most of us dont

for 25000 it should be a 6

and if it is a 4 the price would have to be less than that


but whatever, this isnt an off topic thread where you post opinions or anything

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

im gonna take a stab in the dark here and guess youre either still in your teens/early 20s...or you are a broke ass college student (not being insulting...college takes a heavy toll on your finances)

Dorki you hit the nail on the head. He's 18, so his comments don't surprise me.


Now, regarding jmd8590's comments.

First off, if a $25,000 car is your dream car, you need some grander goals. Any person making a decent income can afford to have their own place, live comfortably, and own a $25,000 car. So to call it a dream car is pretty sad.

Second, it shouldn't be a 6. If it was a 6 it would have to be the VQ, and with the Altima and the Z, it wouldn't be able to differentiate itself enough from the other sports coupes in the showroom. See, what I see Nissan doing is making this a more bare bones (I know the people that have been following this thread are probably sick of hearing me say bare-bones) car. Therefore, the car needs to be offered with very few options. Basically Sans nav, light, and it must be a 4 cyl. It needs to focus on doing a lot with a little. Being able to not nec. outperform better cars in a straight line, but def. in the twisties.

This certainly is OT, and you are entitled to an opinion. But, I don't think you have a complete understanding on what the next 240 really needs to be to be a success for Nissan and us enthusiasts. No offense.

If you keep up with this thread, I guarantee you will.

[Dutchmalmiss]

^^^ Just to clarify with exit, with the Altima coupe starting at $20k, and the V6 version starting at $25k, that's a $4k-9k gap between their current sporty coupe, along with their sentra se-r for the same price, and the base Z. While I'm not exactly sure with what Nissan's going to do with the Altima coupe, a $25k rwd coupe would make perfect sense being that it's a latter lower than the Z, but a latter higher than the Altima coupe. Shit, I'll even go out on a limb and say that it'll start at ~$23.5k. If they DO add a V6 as an option, it'll most likely be the least popular model.

Fuck yeah 2000th post.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by Dutchmalmiss

^^^ Just to clarify with exit, with the Altima coupe starting at $20k, and the V6 version starting at $25k, that's a $4k-9k gap between their current sporty coupe, along with their sentra se-r for the same price, and the base Z. While I'm not exactly sure with what Nissan's going to do with the Altima coupe, a $25k rwd coupe would make perfect sense being that it's a latter lower than the Z, but a latter higher than the Altima coupe. Shit, I'll even go out on a limb and say that it'll start at ~$23.5k. If they DO add a V6 as an option, it'll most likely be the least popular model.

Fuck yeah 2000th post.

I don't know what they will do with the Altima. I have a feeling the new Silvia may have a completely unique look. Unlike the derivative stlying of Altima coupe is. I think the Silvia is going to start out less then $20,000, like $18,000. I think $22, should get you a decent track version with LSD. Just MO.

[dorkidori_s13]

with the reintroduction of the silvia...the altima coupe and the sentra "UGLIER THAN FUKING SIN" SE-R may just be phased out...theres no real reason for nissan to offer either model (especially the sentra SE-R...thing ranks next to the aztek on the list of ugliest cars EVAR!!!)

[exitspeed]

I agree. The current Sentra is one of, if not THE Nissan's ugliest car ever.

[Future240]

^I put it on my list of ugliest cars by any maker in the last 10 years.

[OptionZero]

what happened to the kabura?

[Future240]

^ I looked around for somethin solid and found nothin. It might be goin the way of the caddilac 16

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by future240

^ I looked around for somethin solid and found nothin. It might be goin the way of the caddilac 16

I really don't think so. Although, I admit I havne't even heard a peep from Mazda about it recently.

keep in mind that even though these seem like enthusiasts cars to us, their main goal is to offer affordable, sporty, and most importantly to the manufacturers, FUEL efficient small cars. And these cars are going to be pretty damn fuel efficient. The cars in these segments should easily be getting 30mpg. That really helps their fleet average for the new CAFE regs.

[Future240]

^true. Mazda is probably sittin back collecting info from the market, and forums trying to gauge how best to make the car to appease the greatest number of people

[JoeC1982]

like i've said before the Altima coupe isn't going anywhere, Nissan has had to ramp up production to keep up with demand. i've put rims and tires on 5 of them and they rarely stay on the lot for very long.

[norbac]

do they even go to forums, or just everything from focus groups, and where are these focus groups held, seems like only in the boonies'

[Gnnr]

Yes, but rarely..and when they do its at the very end when the car is pretty much already done. Thats the American manufactures though. I have not heard of any foreign car makers doing that here in the US.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by norbac

do they even go to forums, or just everything from focus groups, and where are these focus groups held, seems like only in the boonies'

Toyota is on the 86 forums regarding their new coupe.

[Neejay]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Toyota is on the 86 forums regarding their new coupe.

Any idea where that is? I tried a few google searches, but came up with nothing.

[exitspeed]

I posted in within this thread I know that.

EDIT: I found it. http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php...&postcount=419

[Future240]

Originally Posted by Gnnr

Yes, but rarely..and when they do its at the very end when the car is pretty much already done. Thats the American manufactures though. I have not heard of any foreign car makers doing that here in the US.

I'm pretty sure they are lurkers. Think about if an official Nissan rep can here and asked what we wanted in the next gen 240 he or she would be bonbarded with pms from tons of people, all their wishes at him or her. However if this person just lurked they could get a general idea of what the community as a mass wants and expects. Just from reading this thread alone a Nissan rep could gauge that most zilvians expect the car to be between 18-28K with the base model bein just the car with pwr this and that, and the higher models havin LSD ect.

[exitspeed]

^
If there is a lurker I hope they are listening to my idea of a RWD G20 revival based on the new Silvia's platform.