Bush trumps Congress; Moves first on drilling

[TheWolf]

I'd prefer if my floridian beaches stayed nice instead of looking like texas beaches...

[dert420sx]

Originally Posted by TheWolf

I'd prefer if my floridian beaches stayed nice instead of looking like texas beaches...

here here! same goes for the california beaches as well! i wouldn't wanna go surfing in an oil spill and shower off with some dawn.

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by dert420sx

here here! same goes for the california beaches as well! i wouldn't wanna go surfing in an oil spill and shower off with some dawn.

Drilling off California is in the Santa Barbara region. Fact is there is so much oil seeping out the ground there naturally that if you go surfing or swimming there you get tar on your feet already. Drilling will actually clean it up not make it worse. Also you live in Long Beach. Which means for the most part short of San Diego county, the beaches from Santa Barbara down to Orange county are already shit holes and the waters are polluted. If you want your beaches cleaner you need to lobby LA county to clean up their sewage before the water goes to sea.

People need to realize something, drilling for oil off the coast of our country is not as environmentally terrible as the radical environmentalists would have you believe. Fact is drilling platforms do not spill much if ever. There is like one time where it happened. I am for environmentalism but with prudence. If this drilling had been allowed ten years ago, we would not have the current oil price speculation problem, we have today.

Of course, most of this will be lost on most of you, because you may not be financially aware, because your either to young, or still in College.
This is not meant to be condescending towards you either, its just a fact. You look at things differently when you are earning your living in life and investing in the well being of the country.

Oh and like I said to hitman if you do not care about this country and the dollar then you should just pack up and move someplace else.

Its were you live and will most likely live unless you plan on leaving . To which I say there is the door don't let it hit you on your ass on the way out.

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Drilling off California is in the Santa Barbara region. Fact is there is so much oil seeping out the ground there naturally that if you go surfing or swimming there you get tar on your feet already. Drilling will actually clean it up not make it worse. Also you live in Long Beach. Which means for the most part short of San Diego county, the beaches from Santa Barbara down to Orange county are already shit holes and the waters are polluted. If you want your beaches cleaner you need to lobby LA county to clean up their sewage before the water goes to sea.

People need to realize something, drilling for oil off the coast of our country is not as environmentally terrible as the radical environmentalists would have you believe. Fact is drilling platforms do not spill much if ever. There is like one time where it happened. I am for environmentalism but with prudence. If this drilling had been allowed ten years ago, we would not have the current oil price speculation problem, we have today.

Of course, most of this will be lost on most of you, because you may not be financially aware, because your either to young, or still in College.
This is not meant to be condescending towards you either, its just a fact. You look at things differently when you are earning your living in life and investing in the well being of the country.

Oh and like I said to hitman if you do not care about this country and the dollar then you should just pack up and move someplace else.

Its were you live and will most likely live unless you plan on leaving . To which I say there is the door don't let it hit you on your ass on the way out.

right on the FUCKING button! +rep for you buddy. This is exactly right and is the EXACT reason why a ban on offshore drilling baffled a LOT of people. People who don't know just assume that drilling for oil is a atomic bomb waiting to happen, which is DEF not the case.

[hitman]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Drilling off California is in the Santa Barbara region. Fact is there is so much oil seeping out the ground there naturally that if you go surfing or swimming there you get tar on your feet already. Drilling will actually clean it up not make it worse. Also you live in Long Beach. Which means for the most part short of San Diego county, the beaches from Santa Barbara down to Orange county are already shit holes and the waters are polluted. If you want your beaches cleaner you need to lobby LA county to clean up their sewage before the water goes to sea.

People need to realize something, drilling for oil off the coast of our country is not as environmentally terrible as the radical environmentalists would have you believe. Fact is drilling platforms do not spill much if ever. There is like one time where it happened. I am for environmentalism but with prudence. If this drilling had been allowed ten years ago, we would not have the current oil price speculation problem, we have today.

Of course, most of this will be lost on most of you, because you may not be financially aware, because your either to young, or still in College.
This is not meant to be condescending towards you either, its just a fact. You look at things differently when you are earning your living in life and investing in the well being of the country.

Oh and like I said to hitman if you do not care about this country and the dollar then you should just pack up and move someplace else.

Its were you live and will most likely live unless you plan on leaving . To which I say there is the door don't let it hit you on your ass on the way out.

i would if i could. i plan on moving when i move into a phd program next fall.
also, i hate retards like you that view everything as merely standing reserve. unfortunately i cant move away from people like you. maybe you should read some you fucktard instead of just listening to fox news or the morning paper, or a book by mccain or obama

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by hitman

i would if i could. i plan on moving when i move into a phd program next fall.
also, i hate retards like you that view everything as merely standing reserve. unfortunately i cant move away from people like you. maybe you should read some you fucktard instead of just listening to fox news or the morning paper, or a book by mccain or obama

Wow, once again a person who loses the argument because they don't use facts result to insults and swear words. You're really looking educated and bright here, NOT!. I don't watch or listen to Fox News you little insolent child. I wish they would deport people like you because you're not worthy of citizenship. I know more about World Politics and the Financial world than you could ever hope to know. You have been owned here and your acting you a spoiled insolent child.

On and by the way your comment about big words. Wow, are you really are that ignorant as to think the ordinary English I use are big words. Validity is not a big word and can be used in the context of if your argument is valid. Try and nit pick it trying to sound all educated, fact is It can be used in my statement about you and was used. Get over it.
Oh and nice to see that neg rep where you call me a fucktard. Wow, real mature!

[dert420sx]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Drilling off California is in the Santa Barbara region. Fact is there is so much oil seeping out the ground there naturally that if you go surfing or swimming there you get tar on your feet already. Drilling will actually clean it up not make it worse. Also you live in Long Beach. Which means for the most part short of San Diego county, the beaches from Santa Barbara down to Orange county are already shit holes and the waters are polluted. If you want your beaches cleaner you need to lobby LA county to clean up their sewage before the water goes to sea.

People need to realize something, drilling for oil off the coast of our country is not as environmentally terrible as the radical environmentalists would have you believe. Fact is drilling platforms do not spill much if ever. There is like one time where it happened. I am for environmentalism but with prudence. If this drilling had been allowed ten years ago, we would not have the current oil price speculation problem, we have today.

Of course, most of this will be lost on most of you, because you may not be financially aware, because your either to young, or still in College.
This is not meant to be condescending towards you either, its just a fact. You look at things differently when you are earning your living in life and investing in the well being of the country.

Oh and like I said to hitman if you do not care about this country and the dollar then you should just pack up and move someplace else.

Its were you live and will most likely live unless you plan on leaving . To which I say there is the door don't let it hit you on your ass on the way out.

it's true that the waters off long beach are shit- all the damn commercial ships ruined it. i would not set foot in the waters off long beach to orange county, myself. i've also been a long time supporter of the surfrider foundation and we do voice our concerns. in fact, we temporarily got a halt on the 241 hwy extension all the way to the 5 fwy.

people gotta realize that for anything you build to "ease" traffic congestion, it will be years before any improvements are seen, if any at all. (remember a time before the 91 freeway? how much did that help traffic??) the 241 toll road is planned to cut across some federally protected wetlands. for what? just so a bunch of arrogant rich fucks can get their own route from the mountains to the 5 fwy? that'll ruin all that pristine land and the ecosystems that inhabit it. not to mention that trestles surf spot will no longer have its natural wetlands as a backdrop when the fwy is built there.

anyway, im done thread jacking but this is all along the lines of the oil drilling in the ocean. the ocean is a vast resource that shouldn't be treated like a dump. man is the earth's biggest and most numerous parasite.

[BustedS13]

Originally Posted by TheWolf

I'd prefer if my floridian beaches stayed nice instead of looking like texas beaches...

you know, you make a point. was there a spill or something along the texas coast? i went to corpus christi one time and the beaches SUCKED. i was used to white destin sand, though.