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tru180sx · 07-26-2008, 07:57 AM

was wondering how low are most of your track cars..pics please
slammers welcome

*HaLo* · 07-26-2008, 08:06 AM

When I had my 240sx, I wasn't lowered that much. The geometry gets way too messed up...

spool_sample · 07-26-2008, 11:20 AM

What are you referring to when you mean "track car"?

For a "grip" setup, the car should just be low enough to make the control arms horizontal, which, on an S14, is about a finger gap all around.

If it's a drift car, just put the thing on the ground. Fuck it.

!Zar! · 07-26-2008, 01:19 PM

Yup, arms level is where I'd suggest starting.

YoungGun · 07-26-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by spool_sample

What are you referring to when you mean "track car"?

For a "grip" setup, the car should just be low enough to make the control arms horizontal, which, on an S14, is about a finger gap all around.

If it's a drift car, just put the thing on the ground. Fuck it.

Agreed .

tru180sx · 07-26-2008, 08:00 PM

yea, drift cars! yea planning to slam the bitch but wanna hear zilvia's input.

s13silady · 07-26-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tru180sx

yea, drift cars! yea planning to slam the bitch but wanna hear zilvia's input.

no need for the input if you already planned to slam it.

240trainee · 07-26-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by s13silady

no need for the input if you already planned to slam it.

Yea, I make my car work

but it's far from optimum.

Do what you want, decide what your priorities are.

derek_s13 · 07-27-2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 240trainee

Do what you want, decide what your priorities are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240trainee

Do what you want, decide what your priorities are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240trainee

Do what you want, decide what your priorities are.

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Originally Posted by 240trainee

Do what you want, decide what your priorities are.

^^^
moral of the story.

slammed = probably not optimum suspension geometry (240)
4 inches off ground = probably not the coolest your car can look

figure out priorites. build car to spec. enjoy.

honeybadger · 07-27-2008, 12:52 PM

Most people assume lower = better but its not really true... I find a setup that is only slightly lower than stock works best for me (s2000)

babowc · 07-27-2008, 01:01 PM

my s2k is slammed..
under 1 finger gap front..

i need to adjust it.
it rubbed off my liner and i'm scraping everywhere.
:/

s2000s are low already from the factory too.. lol.

Def · 07-27-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by honeybadger

Most people assume lower = better but its not really true... I find a setup that is only slightly lower than stock works best for me (s2000)

Which isn't really helping this guy out with his S chassis at all....

I keep my S13 at a little over a 1 finger wheel gap, which puts the LCAs about parallel with the ground(maybe sloping up just slightly). I wouldn't want to go any lower.

tru180sx · 07-27-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Def

Which isn't really helping this guy out with his S chassis at all....

I keep my S13 at a little over a 1 finger wheel gap, which puts the LCAs about parallel with the ground(maybe sloping up just slightly). I wouldn't want to go any lower.

thanks, any noticable changes? also, what degree of camber do you run in the back and up front.

Def · 07-27-2008, 08:00 PM

Noticeable changes from what?

I've been changing around the suspension quite a bit lately, don't know the exact alignment specs, but I'd estimate the camber is probably about -3.5 deg front and -2.5 rear. That's just real rough and comparing to my stock E36 M3 parked next to it that's at the stock -1 deg front and -2.25 deg rear.

Matej · 07-27-2008, 08:07 PM

Don't listen to any of that technical jibba jabba foooo.

McRussellPants · 07-27-2008, 08:08 PM

Hankook S15 is on the floor and its faster than any other S chassis in the world.

done.

Def · 07-27-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by McRussellPants

Hankook S15 is on the floor and its faster than any other S chassis in the world.

done.

I seriously doubt they have LCAs, so I don't know if that's such a good example.

Sure, the lower your CG is the better, but only if other "bad things" aren't going to become "more bad" faster than your lower CG becomes "more good."

I toned down the technical jibba jabba.

pete240 · 07-27-2008, 09:19 PM

just out of curiosity would it be possible to just get adjustable LCA's so you can get the roll center back into spec at your desired ride height? If that were the case wouldn't height not matter in that sense or am I forgetting something more important.

luftrofl · 07-27-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pete240

just out of curiosity would it be possible to just get adjustable LCA's so you can get the roll center back into spec at your desired ride height? If that were the case wouldn't height not matter in that sense or am I forgetting something more important.

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Def · 07-28-2008, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pete240

just out of curiosity would it be possible to just get adjustable LCA's so you can get the roll center back into spec at your desired ride height? If that were the case wouldn't height not matter in that sense or am I forgetting something more important.

Height doesn't matter with correct geometry until you start banging your wheels into your chassis. That point probably isn't that far down below the point where your LCAs are parallel with the ground.

240trainee · 07-28-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by def

i seriously doubt they have lcas, so i don't know if that's such a good example.

wat??????????

Brian · 07-28-2008, 11:25 AM

SoSideways · 07-28-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 240trainee

wat??????????

I think he meant like "I don't know if they have aftermarket FLCAs".

finalimport · 07-28-2008, 07:25 PM

ride on the floor, the lower the better

Sileighty_85 · 07-28-2008, 07:48 PM

Go Big or Go Home

LOLZ

!Zar! · 07-28-2008, 07:50 PM

Full-Lock · 07-28-2008, 09:08 PM

true american performance height

tru180sx · 07-28-2008, 09:20 PM

just slammed my car. about a two finger gap....love it...thanks zilvia.will post pics up soon. late

hotlavaflow · 07-28-2008, 10:00 PM

I'm not super slammed about 1 finger in the front and 2 in the back (only because my fender isn't rolled yet and my tires are shredding as it is). Once the fenders are rolled I'll put it to 1/2 finger front/1 finger rear.

sldbyuramg · 07-28-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

Go Big or Go Home

LOLZ

HELL YES! is that a Fabtech lift kit?

07-26-2008, 07:57 AM	#1
tru180sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: guam usa Age: 37 Posts: 70 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	track ride height. was wondering how low are most of your track cars..pics please slammers welcome __________________ tru sport

07-26-2008, 08:06 AM	#2
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07-26-2008, 01:19 PM	#4
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Yup, arms level is where I'd suggest starting. __________________

07-26-2008, 08:00 PM	#6
tru180sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: guam usa Age: 37 Posts: 70 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea, drift cars! yea planning to slam the bitch but wanna hear zilvia's input. __________________ tru sport

07-27-2008, 01:01 PM	#11
babowc Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: G.NET Posts: 2,659 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	my s2k is slammed.. under 1 finger gap front.. i need to adjust it. it rubbed off my liner and i'm scraping everywhere. :/ s2000s are low already from the factory too.. lol. __________________ My iTrader rating!

07-26-2008, 11:20 AM	#3
spool_sample Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Age: 38 Posts: 269 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: spool_sample Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What are you referring to when you mean "track car"? For a "grip" setup, the car should just be low enough to make the control arms horizontal, which, on an S14, is about a finger gap all around. If it's a drift car, just put the thing on the ground. Fuck it.

07-27-2008, 12:52 PM	#10
honeybadger Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cerritos, CA Posts: 61 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Most people assume lower = better but its not really true... I find a setup that is only slightly lower than stock works best for me (s2000)

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Def Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,701 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Noticeable changes from what? I've been changing around the suspension quite a bit lately, don't know the exact alignment specs, but I'd estimate the camber is probably about -3.5 deg front and -2.5 rear. That's just real rough and comparing to my stock E36 M3 parked next to it that's at the stock -1 deg front and -2.25 deg rear.

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Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Don't listen to any of that technical jibba jabba foooo.

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pete240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SATX Age: 37 Posts: 124 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	just out of curiosity would it be possible to just get adjustable LCA's so you can get the roll center back into spec at your desired ride height? If that were the case wouldn't height not matter in that sense or am I forgetting something more important.

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07-28-2008, 07:25 PM	#24
finalimport Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: socal Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ride on the floor, the lower the better

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07-28-2008, 09:08 PM	#27
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07-28-2008, 09:20 PM	#28
tru180sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: guam usa Age: 37 Posts: 70 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just slammed my car. about a two finger gap....love it...thanks zilvia.will post pics up soon. late __________________ tru sport

07-28-2008, 10:00 PM	#29
hotlavaflow Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: BKLYN NYC Posts: 1,263 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	I'm not super slammed about 1 finger in the front and 2 in the back (only because my fender isn't rolled yet and my tires are shredding as it is). Once the fenders are rolled I'll put it to 1/2 finger front/1 finger rear. __________________