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Dirty Habit · 08-05-2008, 10:05 AM

Todays first practice day correct??

*exitspeed* · 08-05-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Habit

Todays first practice day correct??

Yep. Latest news is they had a meeting last night, and were supposed to come to a conclusion. They did not, and the meeting was supposed to continue this morning. We haven't heard anything, but McCarthy is sticking with the fact that Rodgers is starting and Favre will be the back up. Supposedly. If that's the case, Favre WILL go elsewhere.

This is all so incredibly irritating.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 08-05-2008, 10:19 AM

Fucking cry baby...i lost all respect for him after this. Fuck him, hes in the same pedestal as TO, ocho-cinco, dont call me pacman, and all them self serving ass hats...

All he cares about is himself...he dont give a fuck about the organization that has stuck with im how many years? Lets not even talk about Aaron Rogers, im sure the fans are 50/50 on this considering some wants him back, some dont cuz he's nothing but a fucking distraction. He wants to play, tell him to tell Aaron Rogers himself that he's gonna start.

Dirty Habit · 08-05-2008, 10:41 AM

Im going to agree with the above rant. Im tired of hearing about this. Greenbay has got to be way tired of this shit. If I was a teammate I would be real tired of it.

*exitspeed* · 08-05-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Fucking cry baby...i lost all respect for him after this. Fuck him, hes in the same pedestal as TO, ocho-cinco, dont call me pacman, and all them self serving ass hats...

All he cares about is himself...he dont give a fuck about the organization that has stuck with im how many years? Lets not even talk about Aaron Rogers, im sure the fans are 50/50 on this considering some wants him back, some dont cuz he's nothing but a fucking distraction. He wants to play, tell him to tell Aaron Rogers himself that he's gonna start.

I agree with you too.

Although recent polls are showing people siding with Favre starting. It was like 63% for Favre, 37% Rodgers.

What really sucks, is that we are supposed to be fucking practicing right now. Not dealing with baby momma drama BS. Sure the rest of the team is still practicing, but it's an obvious distraction.

I'm expecting this year to be very disappointing. I'm going to a pre-season game on the 28th.

Then I'm going to a regular season game in Nov.

*exitspeed* · 08-05-2008, 11:22 AM

As of like 10 min ago:

Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre went into a meeting Tuesday morning acknowledging that he was at a "stalemate" with the team and believed the "best thing for this team is for us to part ways."

Consequently, Favre is unlikely to take the field for practice Tuesday afternoon, pending his second meeting with coach Mike McCarthy.

"We're at a stalemate," Favre said. "Mike and I both agreed last night that me being out there is a distraction and will continue to be a distraction. We all know the reason I'm here is because the commissioner [Roger Goodell] reinstated me so we have a lot of things to figure out. It's simple and complicated, both at the same time."

Favre said the team once again rejected his request to talk to teams about a trade within the NFC North, preferably to the Minnesota Vikings or possibly the Chicago Bears.

Favre clarified reports that he and the Packers have backpedaled on the premise that there would be an open competition with Aaron Rodgers for the starting job.

"Mike told me, hey, we're a better team with you on it but wanted to know if I have a problem with an open competition," Favre said. "I don't have a problem with competing -- you know that, but Aaron should be the starter right now because he's been out here all this time. This is more than about an open competition and I can do that, absolutely, but this is going to be mass confusion and that's not good for this team.

"I'll practice my butt off, if it comes to that, and I think we all know what the end result will be, but this probably isn't going to work. And I truly understand that if I was in Mike's shoes, I'd see it basically the same way he sees it, I'm sure. And I think if he was in my shoes, he'd see it my way. I think we both agree on that.

"They want to know if I'm committed but I want to know if they're 100 percent committed. The problem is that there's been a lot of damage done and I can't forget it. Stuff has been said, stories planted, that just aren't true. Can I get over all that? I doubt it."

Favre, who officially returned from retirement Sunday, met with McCarthy for 5½ hours on Monday night without reaching a resolution. The meeting went long enough that McCarthy had to postpone a planned briefing with the media.

Favre announced his retirement on March 6, and the Packers moved ahead with Rodgers, Favre's former understudy, as the team's new starting quarterback. But Favre, still under contract with the Packers, then followed through on hints that he was interested in a return to the NFL.

The Packers have attempted to work out a trade outside the NFC North, with the New York Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers reported as likely suitors, but to no avail. And last week, team president Mark Murphy flew to Mississippi to discuss a marketing deal for Favre worth a reported $25 million. Favre has not accepted that deal, either.

Asked what stories have been "planted," Favre alluded to the reports that said he waffled on un-retiring in late March or early April. He said that's "just not the way it went down, at all."

He also expressed anger with the stories that alleged he had a team-issued cell phone that showed the Vikings were tampering with him.

"Again, that was bull on both parts," he said.

"Then," Favre said, "they tried to buy me off to stay retired."

He added, "So they can say they welcome me back but, come on, the way they've treated me tells you the truth. They don't want me back, so let's move on. I don't know where it's headed. We'll see."

Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN.

stiizy · 08-05-2008, 11:23 AM

WTF is he doing!!!!

Staying Home or Playing Damn Exit if your state didnt produce descent beer and cheese i would have to nuke it!!!

*exitspeed* · 08-05-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stiizy

WTF is he doing!!!!

Staying Home or Playing Damn Exit if your state didnt produce descent beer and cheese i would have to nuke it!!!

It's not our fault. Trust me, there is no one here that wants to see this go down like it is.

stiizy · 08-05-2008, 11:53 AM

mel go fucking Jason stab him in the Throat and toss the Machete and don't forget the mask

you will be rewarded hahaha

WERDdabuilder · 08-05-2008, 03:26 PM

the guys a fuckin d-bag. drama fuckin queen.

ESmorz · 08-05-2008, 03:36 PM

*SNIP* Borderline NWS. Gross as hell though.

808_s13 · 08-05-2008, 04:05 PM

idk. it was totally frustrating cause all youl hear
is "favre this, favre that" same 'ol shit.

c'mon

-makua[ace]

*exitspeed* · 08-06-2008, 08:45 AM

So it sounds like we're back to trading him again. McCarthy is set on going with Rodgers for the starter this year and Favre obviously wants to play, and START. Sounds like he's going to go to the Bucc's.

I'm OK with it now.

TheWolf · 08-06-2008, 09:19 AM

why not be creative and swap QB's like every 2 plays like UF does ocassionally...

***S14DB*** · 08-06-2008, 04:01 PM

Unusual way to get to disneyworld...

Mi Beardo es Loco · 08-06-2008, 04:10 PM

I have a very reliable source inside the San Diego org who has a huge tie in the Packer org. Favre is going to be announced as a Buccaneer either today or very soon. Operantly the deal is done between the Pack and Buccs and the only thing that could ruin the deal is Favre himself. He has some stipulation in his contract that he's using to his advantage.
The truth behind the whole drama is Thompson is defending and sticking up for his first draft pick. Plus, Favre was informed that he had no shot due to the the slight offensive gamplan change to suit Rodgers. Favre was very good friends with Ron Wolf, the previous GM. Thompson got the job, and Brett got good info that Thompson stabbed Wolf in the back to get the job, then in an ultimate fuck you to Brett, Thompson drafts Rodgers to replace Favre.
Let the drama continue.

Mi Beardo es Loco · 08-06-2008, 10:49 PM

ok. deals done. Brett refuses to play for the Buccs because, and I quote Favre "it's too hot in Tampa" and is now officially a Jet. The Jets will get a conditional 3rd that could turn to a 1st rounder.

Z33dori · 08-06-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi Beardo es Loco

ok. deals done. Brett refuses to play for the Buccs because, and I quote Favre "it's too hot in Tampa" and is now officially a Jet. The Jets will get a conditional 3rd that could turn to a 1st rounder.

what a fucking puss bag

Mi Beardo es Loco · 08-06-2008, 10:59 PM

I'm not bias because I'm neither a Pack, Jet, or Bucc fan. I'm a Charger fan but I know all the inside info and, although Favre made some wrong moves, Ted Thompson is a dick. I would say Thompson was to blame for about 80% of what happened. I mean, he injected a poison pill to the "QB competition" and really made it pro Rodgers. There was so much that happened that NO ONE knows about it's unreal. I hate to see Thompson treat a legend like that.

*exitspeed* · 08-07-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Z33dori

what a fucking puss bag

Yea, he sure is. He's such a puss he's never missed a game. Good call.

98s14inaz · 08-07-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Habit

Im going to agree with the above rant. Im tired of hearing about this. Greenbay has got to be way tired of this shit. If I was a teammate I would be real tired of it.

Exactly. I'm sick of hearing about this shit. If you retire it should be mandatory that you stay retired. These athletes are self serving whining bitches only concerned about money. If I was a teammate i'd be pissed and want him gone.

Gnnr · 08-07-2008, 09:33 AM

Did you see the T-mobile commercial thats been running for like a month+ now?

Say goodbye to goodbye: T-Mobile at Home unlimited nationwide calling | T-Mobile at Home

Its the one titled "Moving", pretty funny considering the circumstances.

slidingsky · 08-07-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Z33dori

what a fucking puss bag

That's not the real reason he didn't want to go there but either way your ignorant for thinking so.

slidingsky · 08-07-2008, 11:56 AM

Here's a very skim look on how Brett was treated....

ESPN - Packers make their choice with Favre; now they can wallow in it - Columnist

Packers make their choice with Favre; now they can wallow in it

By Gene Wojciechowski
ESPN.com

From green and gold to green and white. From, "Go, Pack, Go" to "J-E-T-S." From the NFL's smallest market to the league's largest.
Brett Favre's life did a 180 late Wednesday night, and it happened because Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson didn't trust Favre, and Favre didn't trust Thompson.
Drag a razor across this controversy's beard and that's what you'll find under the stubble -- distrust, too much scar tissue and the simple yet mind-boggling fact that Packers management thinks Favre isn't good enough to win. If it thought otherwise, Favre wouldn't be the quarterback of the New York Jets today.
Anyway, so much for the Packers wanting to protect Favre's "legacy." Remember that bit of PR fiction? The benevolent, caring Packers would be there to safeguard all things Brett -- that's what they said often in recent weeks. But the protection broke down when Favre decided to unretire and return to Green Bay.
Favre is a Jet because Thompson didn't want him to be a Packer. Or a Minnesota Viking. And who can forget that heartfelt "crossing the Rubicon" statement by Packers team president Mark Murphy when Favre was reinstated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell. Any icier and you could have played hockey on it.

AP Photo/Mike Roemer
Brett Favre as he left Green Bay...ultimately for the last time as a Packer.

For all those Favre critics who insist he's a drama queen, remember that he could have stayed in Green Bay, practiced, competed in an open competition with Aaron Rodgers and dared Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy to keep him on the bench. But he didn't. He left after several days because he has more respect for the Packers than the Packers have for him.
Packers management thought Favre wouldn't push for reinstatement and report to camp, but he did. It thought he would take its $25 million of get-lost money, but he didn't. It thought it could break his will by refusing to release him or trade him to the Vikings, but it couldn't.
And nice job on accusing the Vikings of tampering (the Vikes were cleared of any wrongdoing). Plus, wasn't it interesting that someone leaked a story that Favre allegedly called the Vikings on a Packers-issued cell phone (also untrue).
If this were a divorce, then Favre would be the one getting the alimony. The Packers were so eager to ditch the NFL's all-time leader in passing yards, touchdowns and victories by a QB that they reduced the bidding war to two teams (the Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers). And they settled for a conditional fourth-round pick, which will bump up to a third-rounder if Favre takes 50 percent of the snaps (duh), and a second-rounder if he takes 70 percent of the snaps and the Jets reach the playoffs.
Instead of Favre -- who earlier last season helped lead the Packers to the NFC Championship Game and finished second in the league's MVP voting -- Thompson would rather have three quarterbacks on his roster with a combined zero NFL starts. He'd rather have Rodgers than the most durable quarterback in the history of the game.
Brett Favre 2008 Timeline

The Brett Favre saga in Green Bay might be nearing a conclusion after the unretired quarterback said he and the team might be better off without each other. A look at how the story has unfolded:
Aug. 6: Traded to New York Jets for conditional draft pick.
Aug. 5: Left practice facility in the afternoon ... did not practice with the team ... met with Packers officials to discuss trade options ... tells ESPN's Chris Mortensen "the best thing for this team is for us to part ways" ... considers talking to the Buccaneers about a possible trade.
Aug. 4: Favre reports to training camp and is added to active roster after passing physical
Aug. 3: NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates Favre
July 31: Favre offered $25 million to not report to camp
July 30: Meets with Packers president Mark Murphy in Mississippi
July 29: Faxes reinstatement request to NFL
July 25: Favre tells Packers he plans to report to training camp
July 19: Returns to Lambeau Field to attend Packers Hall of Fame ceremony
July 16: Packers file tampering charges with NFL against Vikings
July 11: Packers receive letter from Favre formally requesting release
July 8: Favre asks for release with understanding he won't be starter
July 6: Sends text message to Packers GM Ted Thompson
July 2: Favre says reports of return were "all rumor"
June 20: Favre tells coach Mike McCarthy he may want to play again
April 9: Says he might consider comeback if opportunity was presented
April 4: Agent reportedly contacts teams to gauge trade interest
April 3: Denies rumors of a comeback
March 6: Favre conducts retirement news conference
Jan. 20: Packers lose NFC Championship Game to the Giants in OT
-- Compiled by ESPN Research

Why? It isn't just because Favre wanted to unretire. It can't be. It has to be something as fundamental as Thompson (and maybe McCarthy, too) having lost faith in Favre's ability to win games. If so, Thompson miscalculated yet again.
Thompson's future now depends on Rodgers. If Rodgers gets hurt, the Packers are done. If Rodgers can't handle the pressure, the Packers are done. And Thompson with them.
Of the two finalists for Favre, the Jets actually made the most sense. The Buccaneers already have Jeff Garcia, who made the Pro Bowl last season. Meanwhile, the Jets are underwhelmed by Chad Pennington, who is minutes away from getting released because of his $6 million salary, and Kellen Clemens.
The Jets spent $140 million during the offseason on players. They upgraded their offensive line by signing guard Alan Faneca, who will fit in nicely on the left side with tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson. They upgraded their defensive line (nose tackle Kris Jenkins). They have Thomas Jones at running back (1,119 yards last season). They have Laveranues Coles at wide receiver.
Yes, they're in the same division as the New England Patriots. But they're also in the same division as the Miami Dolphins and the Buffalo Bills. They play Oakland, Kansas City, St. Louis and San Francisco. A nine-win season, maybe a game better, isn't inconceivable. At least, not any more inconceivable than Favre in New York.
It will be strange to see Favre in a Jets helmet. It would have been strange to see him in any helmet that didn't have the game's best logo -- that classic G -- on the side.
On the Jets' Web site, you can already purchase a Favre replica jersey for $80. There's also a tortured headline that reads, "DO QB-LIEVE IT? BRETT FAVRE IS A JET."
No, I don't believe it. Not because he's a Jet, but because Thompson just traded the best quarterback on his roster.
"It is with some sadness that we make this announcement, but also with the desire for certainty that will allow us to move the team and organization forward in the most positive way possible," Murphy and Thompson said in a joint statement.
Sadness? Thompson never wanted Favre back to begin with. Plus, the Packers got a draft pick out of it, they saved $25 million in bribe money, and they're still selling Favre jerseys for $179.95. So enough already with the fake sadness thing.
But if I'm a Packers fan, I fly my team flag at half-mast today. Or better yet, raise a Jets flag.
They're only $20 at Jets Shop.
Gene Wojciechowski is the senior national columnist for ESPN.com. You can contact him at [email protected].

*exitspeed* · 08-07-2008, 12:05 PM

It wasn't a good move by the Pack, but that story seems very one sided.

***S14DB*** · 08-07-2008, 12:23 PM

Wojciechowski is always that way. fucking cubbie.

slidingsky · 08-07-2008, 12:32 PM

HAH yeah he can be at times, but it's not as bad as a Micheal Moore movie.

Mtndrifter14 · 08-07-2008, 12:35 PM

Just retire Brett and leave with some dignity.

redZENKI · 08-07-2008, 01:13 PM

Hate to say it, but he's gonna be hit with the Madden curse this year.

slidingsky · 08-07-2008, 01:17 PM

Psh, him not being in Green Bay is the Curse.

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08-05-2008, 10:19 AM	#63
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Fucking cry baby...i lost all respect for him after this. Fuck him, hes in the same pedestal as TO, ocho-cinco, dont call me pacman, and all them self serving ass hats... All he cares about is himself...he dont give a fuck about the organization that has stuck with im how many years? Lets not even talk about Aaron Rogers, im sure the fans are 50/50 on this considering some wants him back, some dont cuz he's nothing but a fucking distraction. He wants to play, tell him to tell Aaron Rogers himself that he's gonna start. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

08-05-2008, 10:41 AM	#64
Dirty Habit Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,069 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: Dirty Habit Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Im going to agree with the above rant. Im tired of hearing about this. Greenbay has got to be way tired of this shit. If I was a teammate I would be real tired of it. __________________ 1982 280zx Turbo

08-05-2008, 11:22 AM	#66
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 45 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	As of like 10 min ago: Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre went into a meeting Tuesday morning acknowledging that he was at a "stalemate" with the team and believed the "best thing for this team is for us to part ways." Consequently, Favre is unlikely to take the field for practice Tuesday afternoon, pending his second meeting with coach Mike McCarthy. "We're at a stalemate," Favre said. "Mike and I both agreed last night that me being out there is a distraction and will continue to be a distraction. We all know the reason I'm here is because the commissioner [Roger Goodell] reinstated me so we have a lot of things to figure out. It's simple and complicated, both at the same time." Favre said the team once again rejected his request to talk to teams about a trade within the NFC North, preferably to the Minnesota Vikings or possibly the Chicago Bears. Favre clarified reports that he and the Packers have backpedaled on the premise that there would be an open competition with Aaron Rodgers for the starting job. "Mike told me, hey, we're a better team with you on it but wanted to know if I have a problem with an open competition," Favre said. "I don't have a problem with competing -- you know that, but Aaron should be the starter right now because he's been out here all this time. This is more than about an open competition and I can do that, absolutely, but this is going to be mass confusion and that's not good for this team. "I'll practice my butt off, if it comes to that, and I think we all know what the end result will be, but this probably isn't going to work. And I truly understand that if I was in Mike's shoes, I'd see it basically the same way he sees it, I'm sure. And I think if he was in my shoes, he'd see it my way. I think we both agree on that. "They want to know if I'm committed but I want to know if they're 100 percent committed. The problem is that there's been a lot of damage done and I can't forget it. Stuff has been said, stories planted, that just aren't true. Can I get over all that? I doubt it." Favre, who officially returned from retirement Sunday, met with McCarthy for 5½ hours on Monday night without reaching a resolution. The meeting went long enough that McCarthy had to postpone a planned briefing with the media. Favre announced his retirement on March 6, and the Packers moved ahead with Rodgers, Favre's former understudy, as the team's new starting quarterback. But Favre, still under contract with the Packers, then followed through on hints that he was interested in a return to the NFL. The Packers have attempted to work out a trade outside the NFC North, with the New York Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers reported as likely suitors, but to no avail. And last week, team president Mark Murphy flew to Mississippi to discuss a marketing deal for Favre worth a reported $25 million. Favre has not accepted that deal, either. Asked what stories have been "planted," Favre alluded to the reports that said he waffled on un-retiring in late March or early April. He said that's "just not the way it went down, at all." He also expressed anger with the stories that alleged he had a team-issued cell phone that showed the Vikings were tampering with him. "Again, that was bull on both parts," he said. "Then," Favre said, "they tried to buy me off to stay retired." He added, "So they can say they welcome me back but, come on, the way they've treated me tells you the truth. They don't want me back, so let's move on. I don't know where it's headed. We'll see." Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

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stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Age: 43 Posts: 6,332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	WTF is he doing!!!! Staying Home or Playing Damn Exit if your state didnt produce descent beer and cheese i would have to nuke it!!!

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stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Age: 43 Posts: 6,332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	mel go fucking Jason stab him in the Throat and toss the Machete and don't forget the mask you will be rewarded hahaha

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08-06-2008, 08:45 AM	#73
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 45 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	So it sounds like we're back to trading him again. McCarthy is set on going with Rodgers for the starter this year and Favre obviously wants to play, and START. Sounds like he's going to go to the Bucc's. I'm OK with it now. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

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08-07-2008, 11:56 AM	#84
slidingsky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 409 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: slidingsky Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Here's a very skim look on how Brett was treated.... ESPN - Packers make their choice with Favre; now they can wallow in it - Columnist Packers make their choice with Favre; now they can wallow in it By Gene Wojciechowski ESPN.com From green and gold to green and white. From, "Go, Pack, Go" to "J-E-T-S." From the NFL's smallest market to the league's largest. Brett Favre's life did a 180 late Wednesday night, and it happened because Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson didn't trust Favre, and Favre didn't trust Thompson. Drag a razor across this controversy's beard and that's what you'll find under the stubble -- distrust, too much scar tissue and the simple yet mind-boggling fact that Packers management thinks Favre isn't good enough to win. If it thought otherwise, Favre wouldn't be the quarterback of the New York Jets today. Anyway, so much for the Packers wanting to protect Favre's "legacy." Remember that bit of PR fiction? The benevolent, caring Packers would be there to safeguard all things Brett -- that's what they said often in recent weeks. But the protection broke down when Favre decided to unretire and return to Green Bay. Favre is a Jet because Thompson didn't want him to be a Packer. Or a Minnesota Viking. And who can forget that heartfelt "crossing the Rubicon" statement by Packers team president Mark Murphy when Favre was reinstated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell. Any icier and you could have played hockey on it. AP Photo/Mike Roemer Brett Favre as he left Green Bay...ultimately for the last time as a Packer. For all those Favre critics who insist he's a drama queen, remember that he could have stayed in Green Bay, practiced, competed in an open competition with Aaron Rodgers and dared Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy to keep him on the bench. But he didn't. He left after several days because he has more respect for the Packers than the Packers have for him. Packers management thought Favre wouldn't push for reinstatement and report to camp, but he did. It thought he would take its $25 million of get-lost money, but he didn't. It thought it could break his will by refusing to release him or trade him to the Vikings, but it couldn't. And nice job on accusing the Vikings of tampering (the Vikes were cleared of any wrongdoing). Plus, wasn't it interesting that someone leaked a story that Favre allegedly called the Vikings on a Packers-issued cell phone (also untrue). If this were a divorce, then Favre would be the one getting the alimony. The Packers were so eager to ditch the NFL's all-time leader in passing yards, touchdowns and victories by a QB that they reduced the bidding war to two teams (the Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers). And they settled for a conditional fourth-round pick, which will bump up to a third-rounder if Favre takes 50 percent of the snaps (duh), and a second-rounder if he takes 70 percent of the snaps and the Jets reach the playoffs. Instead of Favre -- who earlier last season helped lead the Packers to the NFC Championship Game and finished second in the league's MVP voting -- Thompson would rather have three quarterbacks on his roster with a combined zero NFL starts. He'd rather have Rodgers than the most durable quarterback in the history of the game. Brett Favre 2008 Timeline The Brett Favre saga in Green Bay might be nearing a conclusion after the unretired quarterback said he and the team might be better off without each other. A look at how the story has unfolded: Aug. 6: Traded to New York Jets for conditional draft pick. Aug. 5: Left practice facility in the afternoon ... did not practice with the team ... met with Packers officials to discuss trade options ... tells ESPN's Chris Mortensen "the best thing for this team is for us to part ways" ... considers talking to the Buccaneers about a possible trade. Aug. 4: Favre reports to training camp and is added to active roster after passing physical Aug. 3: NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reinstates Favre July 31: Favre offered $25 million to not report to camp July 30: Meets with Packers president Mark Murphy in Mississippi July 29: Faxes reinstatement request to NFL July 25: Favre tells Packers he plans to report to training camp July 19: Returns to Lambeau Field to attend Packers Hall of Fame ceremony July 16: Packers file tampering charges with NFL against Vikings July 11: Packers receive letter from Favre formally requesting release July 8: Favre asks for release with understanding he won't be starter July 6: Sends text message to Packers GM Ted Thompson July 2: Favre says reports of return were "all rumor" June 20: Favre tells coach Mike McCarthy he may want to play again April 9: Says he might consider comeback if opportunity was presented April 4: Agent reportedly contacts teams to gauge trade interest April 3: Denies rumors of a comeback March 6: Favre conducts retirement news conference Jan. 20: Packers lose NFC Championship Game to the Giants in OT -- Compiled by ESPN Research Why? It isn't just because Favre wanted to unretire. It can't be. It has to be something as fundamental as Thompson (and maybe McCarthy, too) having lost faith in Favre's ability to win games. If so, Thompson miscalculated yet again. Thompson's future now depends on Rodgers. If Rodgers gets hurt, the Packers are done. If Rodgers can't handle the pressure, the Packers are done. And Thompson with them. Of the two finalists for Favre, the Jets actually made the most sense. The Buccaneers already have Jeff Garcia, who made the Pro Bowl last season. Meanwhile, the Jets are underwhelmed by Chad Pennington, who is minutes away from getting released because of his $6 million salary, and Kellen Clemens. The Jets spent $140 million during the offseason on players. They upgraded their offensive line by signing guard Alan Faneca, who will fit in nicely on the left side with tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson. They upgraded their defensive line (nose tackle Kris Jenkins). They have Thomas Jones at running back (1,119 yards last season). They have Laveranues Coles at wide receiver. Yes, they're in the same division as the New England Patriots. But they're also in the same division as the Miami Dolphins and the Buffalo Bills. They play Oakland, Kansas City, St. Louis and San Francisco. A nine-win season, maybe a game better, isn't inconceivable. At least, not any more inconceivable than Favre in New York. It will be strange to see Favre in a Jets helmet. It would have been strange to see him in any helmet that didn't have the game's best logo -- that classic G -- on the side. On the Jets' Web site, you can already purchase a Favre replica jersey for $80. There's also a tortured headline that reads, "DO QB-LIEVE IT? BRETT FAVRE IS A JET." No, I don't believe it. Not because he's a Jet, but because Thompson just traded the best quarterback on his roster. "It is with some sadness that we make this announcement, but also with the desire for certainty that will allow us to move the team and organization forward in the most positive way possible," Murphy and Thompson said in a joint statement. Sadness? Thompson never wanted Favre back to begin with. Plus, the Packers got a draft pick out of it, they saved $25 million in bribe money, and they're still selling Favre jerseys for $179.95. So enough already with the fake sadness thing. But if I'm a Packers fan, I fly my team flag at half-mast today. Or better yet, raise a Jets flag. They're only $20 at Jets Shop. Gene Wojciechowski is the senior national columnist for ESPN.com. You can contact him at [email protected].

08-07-2008, 12:05 PM	#85
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 45 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	It wasn't a good move by the Pack, but that story seems very one sided. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

08-07-2008, 12:23 PM	#86
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Wojciechowski is always that way. fucking cubbie. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

08-07-2008, 12:32 PM	#87
slidingsky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 409 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: slidingsky Feedback Score: 3 reviews	HAH yeah he can be at times, but it's not as bad as a Micheal Moore movie.

08-07-2008, 12:35 PM	#88
Mtndrifter14 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: milwaukee Posts: 217 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just retire Brett and leave with some dignity.

08-07-2008, 01:13 PM	#89
redZENKI Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 179 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hate to say it, but he's gonna be hit with the Madden curse this year.

08-07-2008, 01:17 PM	#90
slidingsky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 409 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: slidingsky Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Psh, him not being in Green Bay is the Curse.