There goes the First Ammendment

[WanganRunner]

The right needs to stop being so alarmed at this prospect.

This will ONLY happen if the Democrats attain a super-majority, i.e. 60 seats in the Senate. This is HIGHLY unlikely, so stop stressing out about it.

All that will happen is a house majority, a Dem President, and a Senate majority that is NOT filibuster-proof (i.e. precisely what the GOP had awhile back).

It won't be anything earth-shattering.



That article, however, totally ignores the most profound thing the Dems could do with a super-majority if they ever got one. They could eliminate the electoral college and run Presidential elections on a straight popular vote.

A popular vote would mean that the GOP would never get another President elected EVER AGAIN, barring huge shifts in how population is distributed in the United States. Right now, it's not in the Dems interest to spend time and money extracting maximum turnout from hugely populated areas in safe blue states, they're more motivated to go after a few swing voters in rural Ohio. With a popular vote they could ignore the Rust Belt swing voters and ramp up their turnout on the coasts. The GOP already has very near max turnout, but the Dems have a huge potential to tap more. Given how the population is distributed in this country (i.e. heavy on the coasts), the GOP would never, ever, ever, ever win a Presidential election EVER again.

But a super-majority won't happen, so don't sweat it.



EDIT: As of the most recent census, the total "Blue State" (04 election) population is 167.9 million people while the total "Red State" population is only 125.2 million. Now, of course, there are Democrats in red states and Republicans in blue states, but the way it is right now, the percentage of population that actually votes is still pretty low. If the Republicans maxed turnout in their lower-populated states and the Dems maxed turnout in their much higher-populated states, well.....you get the idea. It would be permanent Democratic rule forever.

[RJF]

Originally Posted by WanganRunner

But a super-majority won't happen, so don't sweat it.

You so sure? It doesn't look that way right now.

[WanganRunner]

Originally Posted by RJF

You so sure? It doesn't look that way right now.

By what metric?

At the moment, there's something like a 20% chance that the Dems will nab 60 Senate seats, but that is trailing the national Presidential polls by a couple days.

As the Presidential race tightens, so too will those of down-ballot candidates. 20% is as good as it'll ever get, I don't expect the chance to be higher than 10% by election day.

You're worrying about nothing.

Hell, I support Obama enthusiastically but even I will admit that a super-majority of EITHER party would be downright terrifying for all Americans.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Here's how I see it:

This presidency will make or break it. There are hundreds of thousands of us who are already chomping at the bit to force change but don't know how to get the rest of the public on our side.

Whomever gets elected will either be moderate or be overthrown. I will not be at the forefront of this movement, but I will be walking in lockstep with whoever is, rifle across my back and pistol on my hip, for they are the defenders of my liberty and the expression of my self-reliance.

We have already endured great hardship at the hands of our own government, and it continues to probe us to see how far our "commitment" goes. The next president, McCain or Obama, will force the issue and will get the answer he was not expecting.

Neoliberalism and neoconservatism alike will be crushed under the heel of liberty. The government will be forced to scale back, to retreat under the rock from whence it came.

[ESmorz]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Here's how I see it:

This presidency will make or break it. There are hundreds of thousands of us who are already chomping at the bit to force change but don't know how to get the rest of the public on our side.

Whomever gets elected will either be moderate or be overthrown. I will not be at the forefront of this movement, but I will be walking in lockstep with whoever is, rifle across my back and pistol on my hip, for they are the defenders of my liberty and the expression of my self-reliance.

We have already endured great hardship at the hands of our own government, and it continues to probe us to see how far our "commitment" goes. The next president, McCain or Obama, will force the issue and will get the answer he was not expecting.

Neoliberalism and neoconservatism alike will be crushed under the heel of liberty. The government will be forced to scale back, to retreat under the rock from whence it came.

That's all well and dandy, but I can assure you right here and now that ANY uprising will be smashed and the perpetrators made out to be terrorists.

Your rifle across your back, and pistol on your hip won't mean shit when you're getting microwaved.

[98s14inaz]

Originally Posted by ESmorz

That's all well and dandy, but I can assure you right here and now that ANY uprising will be smashed and the perpetrators made out to be terrorists.

Your rifle across your back, and pistol on your hip won't mean shit when you're getting microwaved.

You're both right, why do you think the 2A issue is such a hot button. Citizens become subjects when you disarm them. Obama wants all "hunting" rifles banned, shot guns banned, hand guns limited to at most 6 shots if not out rightly banned. Why do you think that is? Something big is on the horizon.

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto

This is the same reason the British lost control in 1776. Fuck Obama and fuck his pinko socialist ass. The world wants us neutered. We are being destroyed from the inside, just like Rome. Then we will be destroyed from the outside and absorbed.