De La Hoya -VS- Pacquiao

[innovation]

Originally Posted by xfallen1x

True facts but you also can't play the age card either. Benard Hopkins showed age is not a factor in his domination of Kelly Pavlik. Boxing has been so shady for years and years it's so hard to believe in some of the fights sometimes. ESPECIALLY when there is so much money involved in a high profile match like this. It's desperate for quality bouts and so they try to arrange what they could to make "dream matches".

If DLH is in the shape he says he is and fights smart and with the skill he still has his size should win the bout for him. Manny is a natural at that weight yes, but Oscar is still bigger and I too will look for him to test his chin. Regardless it'll be a good bout, hopefully a great one.

Hopkins vs Pavlik doesn't count in my book. Hopkins showed first hand that styles make fights. Not to mention being a smart as hell fighter. Pavlik got first hand on the job training on how to box vs Hopkins.

Also here is some food for thought.

Actually EVERYONE watch for this.
Oscar will fight southpaw and
During the fight you will see Oscar try and do flurries to the body. (much like he did vs Mayweather) NONE will connect whatsoever. The only reason he does this is to look good for the judges.

Oscar is a natural southpaw yet fights conventional. Reason being a stronger jab and easy and strong left hook.

[Kalashnikov]

Originally Posted by innovation

Hopkins vs Pavlik doesn't count in my book. Hopkins showed first hand that styles make fights. Not to mention being a smart as hell fighter. Pavlik got first hand on the job training on how to box vs Hopkins.

Also here is some food for thought.

Actually EVERYONE watch for this.
Oscar will fight southpaw and
During the fight you will see Oscar try and do flurries to the body. (much like he did vs Mayweather) NONE will connect whatsoever. The only reason he does this is to look good for the judges.

Oscar is a natural southpaw yet fights conventional. Reason being a stronger jab and easy and strong left hook.

That's interesting. Southpaw vs. Southpaw.

The question is.....if Manny has added 5-10 lbs, would this make him slower or fight differently?

If that is the arguement and if Manny's speed and power doesn't change, then for sure Manny is the better fighter.

If for some reason, Manny loses speed, and hits softer, which I doubt, then Oscar can win.

[HWYKING]

Originally Posted by innovation

Sorry man but you're facts are wrong.
First, Oscar is NOT a natural welterweight. (Welterweight is 147 pounds, to imply he is natural means he walks on a daily basis at 147 lbs. He is more like a natural Super Middleweight (168 lbs) He fought for undisputed Middleweight title and lost to Bernard Hopkins. (By a body punch LOL)

In contrast, Manny Pacquiao is a natural welterweight. It is safe to say that he walks around daily at 147-155.

Second, Manny is/became the current Lightweight champion when he beat David Diaz (135 lbs) he was previously the Super featherweight title holder (130 lbs). He moved up 5 lbs to beat David Diaz and he did so decisively. His next climb will be 12 lbs to Welterweight, effectively skipping Junior welterweight (140 lbs) (where Ricky Hatton owns the division)
Now Im not saying the jump isn't major because it certainly is. But the one thing Pacquiao doesn't lose in moving up is his speed. That will be a big decisive factor in the fight. If and when Pacquiao gets off first, he will win the fight. The only thing not tested is Manny's chin. With moving up in weight a persons power is drastically increased also. So look to see how Pacquaio holds up to De La Hoya's left hook. If he can take the punch, the fight is already over.

Prediction:

Pacquiao > De La Hoya TKO 9 round. (look for a knockdown by pacquaio by round 4)

I dont think you understood me bro, i know oscar and manny walk around at a heavier weight, what i meant by natural weight classes was the weight classes these two fighters dominate, oscar is an extremely dominating fighter when he fights at 147, and pacman has had plenty of success around 130-135. yea i forgot he now is the lightweight champ after defeating diaz, but he didnt look good in that fight imo.

you also have to remember that oscar has never been knocked out, pacquiao has. sure oscar went down against b-hop, but of course everyone knows that was fake. a shot to the liver will definitely put you out, but that one didnt seem as flush.

in the end, it will come down to who came to fight, or pickup a paycheck.

Originally Posted by xfallen1x

True facts but you also can't play the age card either. Benard Hopkins showed age is not a factor in his domination of Kelly Pavlik. Boxing has been so shady for years and years it's so hard to believe in some of the fights sometimes. ESPECIALLY when there is so much money involved in a high profile match like this. It's desperate for quality bouts and so they try to arrange what they could to make "dream matches".

If DLH is in the shape he says he is and fights smart and with the skill he still has his size should win the bout for him. Manny is a natural at that weight yes, but Oscar is still bigger and I too will look for him to test his chin. Regardless it'll be a good bout, hopefully a great one.

^^agree. im not a big fan of oscar, but i cant stand pacman. hope oscar knocks him the fuk out. if pacman does win, i hope he has the balls to challenge margarito.