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LA_phantom_240 · 12-12-2008, 08:55 PM

Other than physical length, the only difference between s13 and s14 struts is the top mount, correct? And of course a different spring rate.

JDS Performance · 12-12-2008, 09:05 PM

Figure it out yourself - try and help someone and they talk crap!

LA_phantom_240 · 12-12-2008, 09:34 PM

Hmmm.... But what about the upper mounts?

JDS Performance · 12-12-2008, 09:37 PM

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LA_phantom_240 · 12-12-2008, 09:40 PM

Yeah. Well, I just wanted another opinion. I'm positive they're different. The mounts on an s13 are smaller (in total diameter) than in s14.

Looks like I have some business to settle.

JDS Performance · 12-12-2008, 09:59 PM

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Def · 12-12-2008, 10:09 PM

I'm almost positive the rear S14 shock mounts are larger than the S13 ones.

JDS Performance · 12-12-2008, 10:16 PM

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LA_phantom_240 · 12-12-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JDS Performance

I am not saying anyone is wrong but KYB is a pretty good company nad they have both chassis listed the same.

When I bought KYBs they didn't come with upper mounts anyway.

Yes, for the record S14 rear upper mounts are larger.

Second question. Would I be able to swap my rear upper mount onto rear coilovers that have the s13 top mount?

JDS Performance · 12-12-2008, 10:29 PM

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LA_phantom_240 · 12-12-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JDS Performance

I know some have used the camber pillow ball mounts on shock/spring combos with little mods - but vise versa not sure - I never tried it and why would you want to take off the pillow mount on the coilover for a stock shock mount anyways?

We're talking rear here. Damn, are you some kinda illiterate?

Rear doesn't have pillowballs.

This is my problem...

Now you get it?

McRussellPants · 12-12-2008, 11:27 PM

gotta make sure you have the right spacers/sleeves on the shock to the top hat or it'll be loose and break or too small and won't go together.

but yeah the top hats should interchange between coilovers from the same company.

LA_phantom_240 · 12-12-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by McRussellPants

gotta make sure you have the right spacers/sleeves on the shock to the top hat or it'll be loose and break or too small and won't go together.

Wait... what?

projectRDM · 12-12-2008, 11:43 PM

Your first post said strut. The rear is clearly not a strut. So for the rear shock, yes, the S14/S15 upper mount is larger in diameter with the studs further apart. It will not work on an S13 chassis. The front though will work fine, they're all the same bolt spacing for S13-S15.

McRussellPants · 12-13-2008, 12:01 AM

Oh wait, you're dumb/cheap as fuck and you're trying to put coilovers on stock top hats?

yeah, go for it dude, whatever happens happens.

LA_phantom_240 · 12-13-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by projectRDM

Your first post said strut. The rear is clearly not a strut. So for the rear shock, yes, the S14/S15 upper mount is larger in diameter with the studs further apart. It will not work on an S13 chassis. The front though will work fine, they're all the same bolt spacing for S13-S15.

I realize this. What I need to know is if I can take my OEM strut upper mount, and mount it on the rear coilovers I got. Apparently I got lied to when I bought "s14 coilovers" on here. Ksport wants $78 a piece for the upper mounts, and I really don't want to eat that. I got the fronts on (which is odd if they're s13 coilovers, with the bigger bolts and all), but the rears don't work, because they have the smaller, s13 mount.

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Originally Posted by McRussellPants

Oh wait, you're dumb/cheap as fuck and you're trying to put coilovers on stock top hats?

yeah, go for it dude, whatever happens happens.

No, I got lied to by the guy I bought them from here on Zilvia. So fuck off.

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Originally Posted by JDS Performance

Figure it out yourself - try and help someone and they talk crap!

Nice edit. Thanks for trying, honestly... But man you gotta learn to read.

xs240 · 12-13-2008, 06:08 AM

go to Nissan Road Racing Forums - Powered by vBulletin for your suspension needs

LA_phantom_240 · 12-13-2008, 07:08 AM

Eh.... I'm already on enough forums... but I'll give it a shot.

LA_phantom_240 · 12-13-2008, 11:52 AM

Fuck it, I'll just get the mounts from KSport this paycheck...

Def · 12-14-2008, 06:42 PM

NRR is a good forum, you should join. But besides that, you just need to make sure the ID of the stock shock mount is the same as the coilover strut. Take them both apart, measure and compare. Then if you need to just get a sleeve spacer to reduce the ID of the stock housing, but it looks like the same OD shock shaft from the pics.

Take it apart and it should answer your questions.

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Def Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,701 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I'm almost positive the rear S14 shock mounts are larger than the S13 ones.

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McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	gotta make sure you have the right spacers/sleeves on the shock to the top hat or it'll be loose and break or too small and won't go together. but yeah the top hats should interchange between coilovers from the same company.

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projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Your first post said strut. The rear is clearly not a strut. So for the rear shock, yes, the S14/S15 upper mount is larger in diameter with the studs further apart. It will not work on an S13 chassis. The front though will work fine, they're all the same bolt spacing for S13-S15. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

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McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh wait, you're dumb/cheap as fuck and you're trying to put coilovers on stock top hats? yeah, go for it dude, whatever happens happens.

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12-14-2008, 06:42 PM	#20
Def Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,701 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	NRR is a good forum, you should join. But besides that, you just need to make sure the ID of the stock shock mount is the same as the coilover strut. Take them both apart, measure and compare. Then if you need to just get a sleeve spacer to reduce the ID of the stock housing, but it looks like the same OD shock shaft from the pics. Take it apart and it should answer your questions.