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VQMaxFan · 12-21-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Teknolust72

I would say 18K for that is not worth it. But then again, I'm used to seeing STREET cars look this good in Japan, and they fetch maybe 14K at the most!!

But to me, sick13's car is not worth 18K because he has a crapload of Megan Racing suspension components, which devalues it to me. PLUS it really makes me doubt the quality of the overall build, since the builder has chosen to use mediocre parts for components that are very important.

But then again, I havent seen the car in person, so I really cant put a price on it.....

Would you say the blue car was worth 18k added the fact it has an LS1/T56?

chibo · 12-21-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VQMaxFan

Would you say the blue car was worth 18k added the fact it has an LS1/T56?

18k will put you into FD RX7 LS1 territory. Better looking car, rarer car, and so on. 18k will buy you a lot now adays - S2000, Evo, STi, WRX, IS300, 350z, G35, Legacy GT, MCoupe, early NSX, C5 ZO6 (possibly.) etc.

s14kouki44 · 12-21-2008, 02:16 PM

a car is only worth as much someone will pay for it...so 240's aren't worth more than $12k or so for the nicest one because no 240 fan has $20k to buy one with. maybe in 40 years these cars will be chevelle/GTO/mustang status but who knows

Teknolust72 · 12-21-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by VQMaxFan

Would you say the blue car was worth 18k added the fact it has an LS1/T56?

bleh....LS1 doesnt turn me on...

And I think its kind of disrespectful to an S-chassis to put in a non-Nissan engine.

ESmorz · 12-21-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

IMO i dont agree becuase not everybody has the knowledge or resources to build a car. I also wouldn't call a person like that a trick unless they have no idea of wtf they are buying and are just a complete dumb ass...lol

If you have the resources to buy a car like that, you can very easily buy a few books and get to some learnin. Ya hear?

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Originally Posted by Teknolust72

bleh....LS1 doesnt turn me on...

And I think its kind of disrespectful to an S-chassis to put in a non-Nissan engine.

Why? Nissan gave you and every other American the shaft with the S-Chassis. Fuck them.

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 02:22 PM

EBAY LINK
This guy has been trying to sell this car forever but he is listing the car as a 2006 pontiac ls1 with corvette valve covers!!!!

Thats bullshit because in 06 there was no ls1 in a gto it was an ls2 and that aint no damn ls2....you can tell by the TB and the PS res, the fuel rail etc.
This guy must have bump his god damn head 35k buy it now!! are you kinding me he does even have the right hood

chibo · 12-21-2008, 02:24 PM

Jesus, that cage has horrible filament.

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

If you have the resources to buy a car like that, you can very easily buy a few books and get to some learnin. Ya hear?

Sorry when i said resource i didnt mean money I meant, people around you with know how, friends that are mechanics, welders etc.

boost_addict · 12-21-2008, 02:27 PM

its worth that much but no one aint gon pay that much for a nissan.. LOL

ESmorz · 12-21-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

Sorry when i said resource i didnt mean money I meant, people around you with know how, friends that are mechanics, welders etc.

It's fine to pay someone to weld for you. I am by no means a fabricator, but I have no quams pulling everything apart and rebuilding as long as I have the time. However, I would like to learn how to weld and paint better.

How can you have any pride driving a car that you had no hand in building except signing your name on the check?

5150Fab · 12-21-2008, 02:32 PM

After so many mods a car really isnt what it started out to be. 30k+ in mods, its hardly nissan still. So yea i can see a 240 for 15+ thousand. It would have to be a full on race chassis with just about every bell and whistle. If someone had 50k in a 240 chassis and you offered them 10, they might laugh at you. People also have to account for the labor hours that go into cirtain cars too, some people dont have the resources to completley fab up a race car, so they have a shit load of fab hours in the car, most fab shops are about 100/hour so....account for that too.

honestly, if you have the money to be looking at 15k 240's than whats the problem. the person that built the car had all the headachs and heartachs. That is worth 5k alone on a built chassis Lol. If you ever built a car you know exactly what i mean.

Its the money and work into the car, not the car that sets the price.

Thats just my take on it...idunno

But yea i know where your coming from, i see 240's with rb20's and shitty coilovers out here that go for like 8K. People have no clue and think, "oh skyline motor" sure heres 8gs for a car that is really worth 2, just because of the shitty 1000 dollar motor. so yea some people are CRAZY. People pay so whatever, my hat is off to the guy that just made 6000 for putting a 1000 dollar motor in the car, buyers fault.

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VQMaxFan

Would you say the blue car was worth 18k added the fact it has an LS1/T56?

wow really!! well you know im gonna be bias alittle right now when is comes to lsx swaps because(I have one) they are typically 00 motors and newer compaired to they commonly swap motors like sr20's and rb's. So yeah that would IMO warrant a 18k price tag and if not 18k something around 16k if he had an ls1....if he had an ls2,3,or 7(expensive) then yes 18k or more.....
also please post a pic if you have one of that motor its gotta be sick with that paint!!!omg

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Originally Posted by Teknolust72

bleh....LS1 doesnt turn me on...

And I think its kind of disrespectful to an S-chassis to put in a non-Nissan engine.

I begg to differ but this is a whole different thread...I have one and its great best swap ive ever done dont regret it a bit....And I hate american cars

VQMaxFan · 12-21-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

wow really!! well you know im gonna be bias alittle right now when is comes to lsx swaps because(I have one) they are typically 00 motors and newer compaired to they commonly swap motors like sr20's and rb's. So yeah that would IMO warrant a 18k price tag and if not 18k something around 16k if he had an ls1....if he had an ls2,3,or 7(expensive) then yes 18k or more.....
also please post a pic if you have one of that motor its gotta be sick with that paint!!!omg

I talked to the guy before the show started and he popped the hood for me, it was pretty dirty. He got home from iraq 2 days before the show and they spent the day/night before the show putting all the body panels back on the car. Thus why it doesn't have turn signals and etc on it.

You can sorta see inside the engine bay in this picture.

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VQMaxFan

I talked to the guy before the show started and he popped the hood for me, it was pretty dirty. He got home from iraq 2 days before the show and they spent the day/night before the show putting all the body panels back on the car. Thus why it doesn't have turn signals and etc on it.

You can sorta see inside the engine bay in this picture.

Okay IC...is it a ls1,2 ,3 etc?

Shameless plug #1: My motor

dont worry im gonna put myself on the chopping block later on so you guys can tell me why my car aint worth the 22k i want for it!!!

SleepR 240sx · 12-21-2008, 02:59 PM

ESmorz · 12-21-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

Okay IC...is it a ls1,2 ,3 etc?

Shameless plug #1: My motor

dont worry im gonna put myself on the chopping block later on so you guys can tell me why my car aint worth the 22k i want for it!!!

It's not worth it.

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

It's not worth it.

LOL I know but...why would a 1993 rx7 with same swap be worth that an more??
example 1

ESmorz · 12-21-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

LOL I know but...why would a 1993 rx7 with same swap be worth that an more??
example 1

No, for the reasons I stated above.

VQMaxFan · 12-21-2008, 03:16 PM

Its an LS1, z28 motor.

The FD defiantly has a better interior, thats the one thing i love about them.

usdm180sx · 12-21-2008, 03:21 PM

I'd say it has to be super clean, built with high end good quality parts, properly dyno tuned and most importantly there has to be a willing buyer. I sold my zenki s14 for $19k

chibo · 12-21-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

LOL I know but...why would a 1993 rx7 with same swap be worth that an more??
example 1

Because it's a far rarer car, looks better, nicer chassis, was an icon of the 90's, etc. The 240 is basically a Civic - there were a ton produced and for cheap, only around 14k FD RX7s were built while there were 251k 240sxes built.

boost_addict · 12-21-2008, 03:28 PM

compare a FD with a S chassis? haha wtf

Chaws15 · 12-21-2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

LOL I know but...why would a 1993 rx7 with same swap be worth that an more??
example 1

I also feel that you have to take into consideration that FD's are a totally different animal. They were produced to compete with Porsche's when they were originally released, and the original MSRP reflects that.

The 240, on the other hand, was made for secretaries and bachelorettes, and were almost half of the FD's MSRP (iirc).

In addition to status, the rarity definitely plays a part. There may not be many clean 240's around, but there are less FD's.

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chibo

Because it's a far rarer car, looks better, nicer chassis, was an icon of the 90's, etc. The 240 is basically a Civic - there were a ton produced and for cheap, only around 14k FD RX7s were built while there were 251k 240sxes built.

do you know how many 97-98 240sx 's were made im curious??

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Originally Posted by boost_addict

compare a FD with a S chassis? haha wtf

nah just play devil advocate!!

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Originally Posted by Chaws15

I also feel that you have to take into consideration that FD's are a totally different animal. They were produced to compete with Porsche's when they were originally released, and the original MSRP reflects that.

The 240, on the other hand, was made for secretaries and bachelorettes, and were almost half of the FD's MSRP (iirc).

In addition to status, the rarity definitely plays a part. There may not be many clean 240's around, but there are less FD's.

true story

usdm180sx · 12-21-2008, 04:02 PM

Well, in Initial D the FD, with it's mountain tuned suspension setup, was beaten by a 10 year old 86 junker

silviachik420 · 12-21-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by shinhed

Nope, sorry.
The paint's gotta be immaculate with new oem shit, spotless glass, trim, interior...

I'd pay 18k if it looked like this...

hahaha this looks just like the car the OP said is not worth 18k

IMO i think sick13's car is bad ass if i had a shit load of cash to blow i would rock it!!!!

azndoc · 12-21-2008, 04:33 PM

In my opinion a car is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.

no one can agree with someone when it comes to an object's price.

Recently someone asked me if i was to sell my car what would the price be?

I consulted with some friends and decided on a price.

The person didn't bitch about because he knows that I don't really want to sell my car but if I was then it should be a price that is well worth it for me to sell at.

**S13SilviaGirl** · 12-21-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by azndoc

In my opinion a car is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.

no one can agree with someone when it comes to an object's price.

Recently someone asked me if i was to sell my car what would the price be?

I consulted with some friends and decided on a price.

The person didn't bitch about because he knows that I don't really want to sell my car but if I was then it should be a price that is well worth it for me to sell at.

^^^Ditto^^^

Price and worth are a relative subject. I would want a lot for my car IF I were to ever sell it. But that will never happen.

usdm180sx · 12-21-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by usdm180sx

I'd say it has to be super clean, built with high end good quality parts, properly dyno tuned and most importantly there has to be a willing buyer. I sold my zenki s14 for $19k

Wow, what a coincidence

Flicktitty · 12-21-2008, 06:59 PM

too me it's all on what YOU WANT.

To me, The blue one is bad as fuck! Nice motor, Nice wheels, Nice paint,NICE!
but TO ME, i could do without the cage and gutted interior. And too me, the car isn't worth 18K for 18K i've seen turbo IS300's I've seen high mileage TT Supra's you can find NICE FD RX-7's you can get a Audi S4, Fuck you could get a C5 Vette.

The Red Zenki with the 700WHP 2JZ. Is the RIGHT CAR FOR ME.
if i could change anything on it i would have it a solid color (the flat/matte) doesn't do alot for me. But the wheels, the paint,body work, Motor,etc is all SPOT on and i think 18K for that car is pretty good.

A LSX/T56 Could get some good money depending how well the rest of the car is. OP i think your car from what i've seen of it is worth a good 15-18K BUT TO ME, i would have a hard time paying anywhere over 15K for one no matter how much is put into it, cause at the end of the day it's still a 240sx.

12-21-2008, 02:22 PM	#36
RUTH'LESSDET Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NYC Age: 45 Posts: 905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Prime example #1 EBAY LINK This guy has been trying to sell this car forever but he is listing the car as a 2006 pontiac ls1 with corvette valve covers!!!! Thats bullshit because in 06 there was no ls1 in a gto it was an ls2 and that aint no damn ls2....you can tell by the TB and the PS res, the fuel rail etc. This guy must have bump his god damn head 35k buy it now!! are you kinding me he does even have the right hood __________________ 91 Sil80-Sold, LS2 Powered 1997 240sx-Traded, 2005 350z-Sold, Whats next?

12-21-2008, 02:24 PM	#37
chibo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tempe and Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 37 Posts: 1,425 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Jesus, that cage has horrible filament. __________________ 1989 S13 \| 1996 S14 \| 2001 E46 \| 2009 ZX6R

12-21-2008, 02:27 PM	#39
boost_addict Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: LBC Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	its worth that much but no one aint gon pay that much for a nissan.. LOL __________________

12-21-2008, 02:32 PM	#41
5150Fab Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	After so many mods a car really isnt what it started out to be. 30k+ in mods, its hardly nissan still. So yea i can see a 240 for 15+ thousand. It would have to be a full on race chassis with just about every bell and whistle. If someone had 50k in a 240 chassis and you offered them 10, they might laugh at you. People also have to account for the labor hours that go into cirtain cars too, some people dont have the resources to completley fab up a race car, so they have a shit load of fab hours in the car, most fab shops are about 100/hour so....account for that too. honestly, if you have the money to be looking at 15k 240's than whats the problem. the person that built the car had all the headachs and heartachs. That is worth 5k alone on a built chassis Lol. If you ever built a car you know exactly what i mean. Its the money and work into the car, not the car that sets the price. Thats just my take on it...idunno But yea i know where your coming from, i see 240's with rb20's and shitty coilovers out here that go for like 8K. People have no clue and think, "oh skyline motor" sure heres 8gs for a car that is really worth 2, just because of the shitty 1000 dollar motor. so yea some people are CRAZY. People pay so whatever, my hat is off to the guy that just made 6000 for putting a 1000 dollar motor in the car, buyers fault. __________________ 51Fifty Fabrications PM me for braces 89' Coupe

12-21-2008, 03:21 PM	#50
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I'd say it has to be super clean, built with high end good quality parts, properly dyno tuned and most importantly there has to be a willing buyer. I sold my zenki s14 for $19k __________________ -Norm! Last edited by usdm180sx; 12-21-2008 at 04:04 PM..

12-21-2008, 02:16 PM	#33
s14kouki44 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: livermore, ca Age: 36 Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	a car is only worth as much someone will pay for it...so 240's aren't worth more than $12k or so for the nicest one because no 240 fan has $20k to buy one with. maybe in 40 years these cars will be chevelle/GTO/mustang status but who knows

12-21-2008, 03:16 PM	#49
VQMaxFan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mobile AL Age: 35 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Its an LS1, z28 motor. The FD defiantly has a better interior, thats the one thing i love about them.

12-21-2008, 03:28 PM	#52
boost_addict Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: LBC Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	compare a FD with a S chassis? haha wtf __________________

12-21-2008, 04:02 PM	#55
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Well, in Initial D the FD, with it's mountain tuned suspension setup, was beaten by a 10 year old 86 junker __________________ -Norm!

12-21-2008, 04:33 PM	#57
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 43 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	In my opinion a car is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. no one can agree with someone when it comes to an object's price. Recently someone asked me if i was to sell my car what would the price be? I consulted with some friends and decided on a price. The person didn't bitch about because he knows that I don't really want to sell my car but if I was then it should be a price that is well worth it for me to sell at.

12-21-2008, 06:59 PM	#60
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 38 Posts: 3,686 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	too me it's all on what YOU WANT. To me, The blue one is bad as fuck! Nice motor, Nice wheels, Nice paint,NICE! but TO ME, i could do without the cage and gutted interior. And too me, the car isn't worth 18K for 18K i've seen turbo IS300's I've seen high mileage TT Supra's you can find NICE FD RX-7's you can get a Audi S4, Fuck you could get a C5 Vette. The Red Zenki with the 700WHP 2JZ. Is the RIGHT CAR FOR ME. if i could change anything on it i would have it a solid color (the flat/matte) doesn't do alot for me. But the wheels, the paint,body work, Motor,etc is all SPOT on and i think 18K for that car is pretty good. A LSX/T56 Could get some good money depending how well the rest of the car is. OP i think your car from what i've seen of it is worth a good 15-18K BUT TO ME, i would have a hard time paying anywhere over 15K for one no matter how much is put into it, cause at the end of the day it's still a 240sx. __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo