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devonkyle77 · 03-13-2009, 08:00 AM

ok so after a fresh swap, my car cranks and i can smell fuel like crazy...but it doesnt seem fuel is getting to the injectors. would i smell fuel if the feed and return were backwards?

95KA-Turbo · 03-13-2009, 08:21 AM

Where are you worried about them being backwards? At the fuel rail? I can go pop my hood and tell you which of the hardlines it should be coming from.

Have you tried moving them around? Just to check. The feed for the fuel rail is above the return, and the feed comes out of the fuel filter (duh, lol). Anything more specific then that and I'll have to go look in my engine bay.

devonkyle77 · 03-13-2009, 08:27 AM

ya can u look in your bay for me to identify which is which? thanks man

devonkyle77 · 03-13-2009, 08:50 AM

djcobra · 03-13-2009, 09:08 AM

Fuel lines look correct to me...

Steve.

stevepaik · 03-13-2009, 09:25 AM

Not sure what it is, but take a look at your spark plugs to see if there is fuel on them; that should at least tell you if fuel is getting through the injectors. You may have already done this, but I would double check timing and test the ignitor. good luck!

drifterken · 03-13-2009, 12:04 PM

yup correct..... i would double check ur timing... Sr's are pain in the ass in timing.

95KA-Turbo · 03-13-2009, 12:30 PM

Yeah, like everyone else said your fuel lines are correct.

Just have someone turn the key into the "on" position without turning it over while you squeeze the top fuel line coming out of the fuel filter. You'll feel it vibrate/buzz if your fuel pump is working properly and the fuel is moving through the line.

Check the resistance and voltage on your injector plugs....if you want to get nasty with it just pull out each injector one at a time and make sure fuel is squirting out when you turn it over.

Check your grounds and read through all of the trouble shooting section in the FSM...if you don't have the FSM download it.

On the other hand you should be happy to know the area around your fuel pump on your car is WAY less cluttered then mine. That's my next step (after I install my cams) - clean up my wiring harness and engine bay.

Good luck, it is going to be something small and annoying....I hope you get it figured out. If not my buddy who lives in Glouscter (about an hour past Richmond for you) could get it running no problem for cheap. He fixed my car in like 20 mins after I had been ripping my hair out for almost a month.

devonkyle77 · 03-13-2009, 06:16 PM

my friends say they saw smoke coming out of the exhust while cranking. would that mean that im getting combustion? if thats the case, what the hell could be keeping it from firing?

420sx · 03-13-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by drifterken

yup correct..... i would double check ur timing... Sr's are pain in the ass in timing.

how is that? compared to ka it is super easy and fail proof to reset to stock

how can those lines look right???

lines dont look right. why did you hook them up there???

its being a while but i have pics of my old sr setup
this is what it should look like. 1 line to return 1 line to go in. you can see in the pic the fpr
return hooks up to the fpr side.

here is direct link so u can zoom in.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...g?t=1236991364

95KA-Turbo · 03-13-2009, 10:01 PM

He has a S14 SR, the manifolds and injector rails are completely different then the black stop you posted.

420sx · 03-14-2009, 10:19 AM

ooooh my bad. i apologize ! i totally missed that part; no wander i saw it wrong! sorry.

devonkyle77 · 03-19-2009, 05:45 PM

well apparently i have no fuel or spark. ugh.

95KA-Turbo · 03-19-2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonkyle77

well apparently i have no fuel or spark. ugh.

I'm going to be at my buddy's in Gloucester all weekend working on my car/partying if you want I can talk to him and see if you coming by is fine. I can basically guarantee we'll have it fixed in a few hours.

03-13-2009, 08:00 AM	#1
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	S14 SR starting issue ok so after a fresh swap, my car cranks and i can smell fuel like crazy...but it doesnt seem fuel is getting to the injectors. would i smell fuel if the feed and return were backwards? __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

03-13-2009, 08:21 AM	#2
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 39 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Where are you worried about them being backwards? At the fuel rail? I can go pop my hood and tell you which of the hardlines it should be coming from. Have you tried moving them around? Just to check. The feed for the fuel rail is above the return, and the feed comes out of the fuel filter (duh, lol). Anything more specific then that and I'll have to go look in my engine bay. __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

03-13-2009, 08:27 AM	#3
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	ya can u look in your bay for me to identify which is which? thanks man __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

03-13-2009, 08:50 AM	#4
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03-13-2009, 09:08 AM	#5
djcobra Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Calgary Age: 46 Posts: 306 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Fuel lines look correct to me... Steve. __________________ S14 326 whp, 311 tq @ 15 psi HKS F-CON V-PRO

03-13-2009, 09:25 AM	#6
stevepaik Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 36 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Not sure what it is, but take a look at your spark plugs to see if there is fuel on them; that should at least tell you if fuel is getting through the injectors. You may have already done this, but I would double check timing and test the ignitor. good luck!

03-13-2009, 12:04 PM	#7
drifterken Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: so cal. Posts: 126 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	yup correct..... i would double check ur timing... Sr's are pain in the ass in timing.

03-13-2009, 12:30 PM	#8
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 39 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Yeah, like everyone else said your fuel lines are correct. Just have someone turn the key into the "on" position without turning it over while you squeeze the top fuel line coming out of the fuel filter. You'll feel it vibrate/buzz if your fuel pump is working properly and the fuel is moving through the line. Check the resistance and voltage on your injector plugs....if you want to get nasty with it just pull out each injector one at a time and make sure fuel is squirting out when you turn it over. Check your grounds and read through all of the trouble shooting section in the FSM...if you don't have the FSM download it. On the other hand you should be happy to know the area around your fuel pump on your car is WAY less cluttered then mine. That's my next step (after I install my cams) - clean up my wiring harness and engine bay. Good luck, it is going to be something small and annoying....I hope you get it figured out. If not my buddy who lives in Glouscter (about an hour past Richmond for you) could get it running no problem for cheap. He fixed my car in like 20 mins after I had been ripping my hair out for almost a month. __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

03-13-2009, 06:16 PM	#9
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	my friends say they saw smoke coming out of the exhust while cranking. would that mean that im getting combustion? if thats the case, what the hell could be keeping it from firing? __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

03-13-2009, 10:01 PM	#11
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 39 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	He has a S14 SR, the manifolds and injector rails are completely different then the black stop you posted. __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

03-14-2009, 10:19 AM	#12
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ooooh my bad. i apologize ! i totally missed that part; no wander i saw it wrong! sorry. __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

03-19-2009, 05:45 PM	#13
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	well apparently i have no fuel or spark. ugh. __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR