Lets say I live in california, have an SR, get pulled over, what happens? - Page 2 - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Cthulhu · 06-20-2003, 09:52 AM

Does all this only apply to cars that are registered in CA, or any car regardless of registration as long as it's driving there?

SimpleS14 · 06-20-2003, 10:47 AM

Yea, I'm wondering the same thing. I live on the east coast (VA) and I want to know if I will get in trouble if I'm visiting the state while driving my car.

old_s13 · 06-20-2003, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by Bill Roberts
In FLA, we do not have an emission standard anymore. Use to, not now. Too many Latinos providing serious wealth to the economy and driving cars pasted together...for that to help the state...plus, Fla is one place where you can come to with NOTHING and make it work.

If 240SX drivers do drifting events on the street and we are well known to have outragously fast vette eating cars (not mine..vette tieing) then all 240SX's are being watched. So far this is not happening at all. Reason:

Respect for public highways and professionalism.

I dont post much on this forum, but while reading this thread, while eating my morning cereal.. I just couldnt help but say what I tend to say on EVERY forum I am on: WHAT THE FOCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??! I read your post 3 times, and yet, I STILL have absolutely no clue what you are attempting to say.

old_s13 · 06-20-2003, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by chokudoriS13
Yes, he smogged it "legally"...

All you non-CA guys really shouldn't be making educated stabs at this, as you don't know the full extent of what is actually going on out here. BAR (Bureau of Automotive Repair), in conjunction with CHP, does routine roadside checks. Basically, they block off a street, and have cars that match a profile - age of vehicle, type of vehicle - onto a mobile sniffer. They also pop your hood. There's no way out of it... No crying or pleading. Your hood will be popped, and you will be subjected to the sniffer. If you see the roadblock ahead and decide to make a U-turn, the CHP will come after you, wondering why you are trying to evade a state pollution checkpoint. Basically, you are SOL. Welcome to California.

You're not SOL. For one, those stops are not mandatory, you can definately drive on by. The government can not take advantage of your time like that. What if you need to pickup your child and its an emergency? These tests are voluntary. Second, everyone I've spoke to says that these tests are for statistical information only.

How much of all of this is true, I dont know. All I am saying is that there is a fair amount of liability for them to just "pry" around your engine and inspect your emissions.

Besides, am I the only one who beleives in fixing up a car and yet keeping a subtle appearance? If legality is such a concern, run a black intercooler and make everything look clean and stock. I had a cop drive by and look at a few of my friends motors while we were working on them (on private property) and they couldnt even tell the difference between the KA24DE and the SR20DET. What makes you think these people are mechanics? Cops always look at the most basic of parts: catalytic converter, blaring exhausts, headers, K&N filters, and small breather filters on valve covers and exhaust ventillation valves (AIV). Its common sense, the more they cite you for the more money they make. The problem is, they are not qualified to make such judgement calls.. so they have to have good evidence should they ever take you to court.

I dunno, I see so many cars with big chrome exhausts where the piping dips down and the exhaust flares up.. nice angled exhausts and what not. Its nice, I dont mind seeing stuff like this on race or drift videos, but its excessive for street.. just target practice for cops. If performance is a concern (which of course, it is for so many people on these forums), why not custom make an exhaust system with nice mandrel bent piping.. gut out a 3" catalytic converter, throw on a resonator or two, then run straight pipes out the back of the car.. it will look similar to the DD exhaust. Rather than having all these flashy chrome, red, and polished parts in the engine bay, powdercoat parts black -- much more stealthy and harder to recognize.

I'm just saying.. the less obvious, the better.

chokudoriS13 · 06-20-2003, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by old_s13
You're not SOL. For one, those stops are not mandatory, you can definately drive on by. The government can not take advantage of your time like that. What if you need to pickup your child and its an emergency? These tests are voluntary. Second, everyone I've spoke to says that these tests are for statistical information only.

How much of all of this is true, I dont know. All I am saying is that there is a fair amount of liability for them to just "pry" around your engine and inspect your emissions.

Don't know who told you this, but these random tests are indeed mandatory. If non-CARB legal modifications are found, you will be issued a ticket and will be sent to a state ref. There is no liability. If state law allows them to have random checkpoints, then they are obvioulsy able to do so without any repercussion. The BAR guys are also trained fairly well, and will spot an SR in milli-seconds.

Bill Roberts · 06-20-2003, 05:41 PM

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I just couldnt help but say what I tend to say on EVERY forum I am on: WHAT THE FOCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??! I read your post 3 times, and yet, I STILL have absolutely no clue what you are attempting to say.

Well then, since you have only 26posts and have been registered for 20 months (0.05 posts per day) then I would figure as such.

Anyone with at least an entry to College education in reading skills and understanding language arts...should be able to deduce at least these points of my post.

A. Florida does not enforce or require any emission testings of motor vehicles in this state.

B. Many people that are employed in Florida drive vehicles that would not pass Floridas old test that was obolished, let alone a California test.

C. Cops recognize our cars can be made extremely fast because of mods and are on the "look out"

D. Floridians that own 240SX's do not draw attention to this on public property and we do not get harrassed.

E. Florida is a great place to live.

F. It does not bother me to drive within the law.

G. Florida does enforce a legal stop at an intersection or traffic signal that is more complecated than just rolling past it. It is called the 2 stop law (hence, they wish they could enforce an emissions law for being this petty)

H. Street action does exist..not just grey hairs' on the roads. Use good judgement behind the wheel.

Anytime on public streets, especially if not within the law. Therefore, be smart enough to know what you are talking about before you say it and be able to understand advanced social reading.

If I can deduce all this from 30% of my post, you should be able to pick something out of it of intellegence.

Now, quit bothering me.

:hammer:

Krunko · 06-20-2003, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chokudoriS13
Yes, he smogged it "legally"...

All you non-CA guys really shouldn't be making educated stabs at this, as you don't know the full extent of what is actually going on out here. BAR (Bureau of Automotive Repair), in conjunction with CHP, does routine roadside checks. Basically, they block off a street, and have cars that match a profile - age of vehicle, type of vehicle - onto a mobile sniffer. They also pop your hood. There's no way out of it... No crying or pleading. Your hood will be popped, and you will be subjected to the sniffer. If you see the roadblock ahead and decide to make a U-turn, the CHP will come after you, wondering why you are trying to evade a state pollution checkpoint. Basically, you are SOL. Welcome to California.

I've never heard of them doing that...where do they do it? Is it on highways, always in the same place. This just seems ridiculous to randomly block off a road and do random smog checks without a probable cause.

*Sanchi* · 06-20-2003, 09:30 PM

I agree with old_s13 about the "if you want attention your gona get it!!". In LA they stop you just to check your id (drivers license & insurence) stuff like that they arnt there to check under your hood. Besides if your gona drive around all BLING BLING!! you gona get harrashed for pushing your ricer around like that anyways. This stop is just to save time and money. Ive personally try to always avolded it, got traped in one once but they just asked for my drivers license and insurence and i was on my marry way. They usely put it up during cinco di mayo (sp??) looking for DRUNK arsses, just big occations where alot of dum arsses are gona get drunk and drive. So stop crying about it and get rid off all the bling blingy

ohh and they do this on any city street, highways that get moderat(sp?) traffic.

Dousan_PG · 06-20-2003, 09:43 PM

Bill Roberts:

dont give old_s13 a hassle
he's been into and on forums for 240sx since BACK IN THE DAY..like before Freshalloy.com iirc
he's old school and a super cool guy

also the owner of clearcorners.com!

mike is hella cool!

post count doesnt mean sh!t!

Bill Roberts · 06-21-2003, 12:20 AM

Cool Aaron. I figure I need to stand up for myself every once in a while and not get run over. I just don't know why he would take time to post that he could not understand the parady and relevence of my post is all. I thought both his rebuttal and my retort were rather unnecessary looking back. You know how it is...don't let anyone gang up on ya.. If I'd have left it alone..it gives an open door policy for others to test me. Definitly not a good vibe.

Thanks and I stand corrected.

theronin · 06-21-2003, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill Roberts
If I'd have left it alone..it gives an open door policy for others to test me. Definitly not a good vibe.

Thanks and I stand corrected.

that sounds hostile Bill... test you? we love you... just sometimes your harder than isht to understand!

old_s13 · 06-21-2003, 01:31 AM

Lets get one thing straight, I am not a cool guy.. I am a DICK.

I enjoy p1ssing people off, I get my kicks out of it! I run ClearCorners.Com solely for one purpose: to p1ss off rice-boys.

Dousan> Quit sucking up, it wont get you anywhere. From now on, just call me a dick and go with it. Telling others that I am a nice guy is a lie, its like saying Oprah is thin. Just incase you didnt know, that is a lie.. Oprah is NOT thin. We all know Oprah is fat and that the fatness controls her.

Sanchi> Are you on this forum too? Sh1t, I thought I could escape from the Automotive Forums.. you're just too popular!

Mr Bill> I still have no clue what you are talking about, but its all good.. I'll just go with the flow.

ps: Why is p1ss considered a bad word? What is with this lame forum configuration, why are bad words filtered -- and yet, the smiles have animated icons which say A S S H O L E. Dear Mr Zilvia, configure your software.. cussing is a part of automotive culture. If anyone here is under the age of 18 and doesnt know these words, beware.. you will get an *** KICKING in the real world once you grow up. SHEESH

theronin · 06-21-2003, 01:42 AM

i love this guy

drift freaq · 06-21-2003, 02:15 AM

qoute....
[Don't know who told you this, but these random tests are indeed mandatory. If non-CARB legal modifications are found, you will be issued a ticket and will be sent to a state ref. There is no liability. If state law allows them to have random checkpoints, then they are obvioulsy able to do so without any repercussion. The BAR guys are also trained fairly well, and will spot an SR in milli-seconds.]

ok folks lets get a few things straight here. first off I decided to quote this statement because it bore reference to his earlier one.
those random tests you are talking about are only happening in street racing locals like Glen Oaks blvd in Sun Valley . Which just happened to be on the news last night because some dumb kid in a Acura took his own life street racing when he wrapped his car around a light pole. Same thing goes for some parts of the San Gabriel Valley and Orange county and San Diego and areas in the San Francisco bay area. Funny thing is I have been driving SR powered cars all over these areas and have never been hassled. Why? I don't go to street races and I don't go to street racing areas at night . When are you guys gonna learn? I know to many people who have been running turbo KA's and SR's here in socal for years with no problems.
If you are that worried about it you are either not bright enough to know enough to stay away or you should not even think of going down that road and just shut the F%$^ up!!
This stupid subject has been gone over to many times in to many threads in the last couple of months and each time someone puts up evidence of there claim without thinking about it. Use your brains. You take the chance . Can't pay? don 't play!!
Oh damn I got a ticket and I gots to go to the referee!!

Guess I have to put a stock engine back in my car.
oh life is rough

drift freaq · 06-21-2003, 02:28 AM

qoute....
[Don't know who told you this, but these random tests are indeed mandatory. If non-CARB legal modifications are found, you will be issued a ticket and will be sent to a state ref. There is no liability. If state law allows them to have random checkpoints, then they are obvioulsy able to do so without any repercussion. The BAR guys are also trained fairly well, and will spot an SR in milli-seconds.]

ok folks lets get a few things straight here. first off I decided to quote this statement because it bore reference to his earlier one.
those random tests you are talking about are only happening in street racing locals like Glen Oaks blvd in Sun Valley . Which just happened to be on the news last night because some dumb kid in a Acura took his own life street racing when he wrapped his car around a light pole. Same thing goes for some parts of the San Gabriel Valley and Orange county and San Diego and areas in the San Francisco bay area. Funny thing is I have been driving SR powered cars all over these areas and have never been hassled. Why? I don't go to street races and I don't go to street racing areas at night . When are you guys gonna learn? I know to many people who have been running turbo KA's and SR's here in socal for years with no problems.
If you are that worried about it you are either not bright enough to know enough to stay away or you should not even think of going down that road and just shut the F%$^ up!!
This stupid subject has been gone over to many times in to many threads in the last couple of months and each time someone puts up evidence of there claim without thinking about it. Use your brains. You take the chance . Can't pay? don 't play!!
Oh damn I got a ticket and I gots to go to the referee!!

Guess I have to put a stock engine back in my car.
oh life is rough

chokudoriS13 · 06-21-2003, 07:06 AM

These pollution stings are happening all over, and not just in "street-racing territories." The last one I remember in the San Fernando Valley was on Topanga Canyon and Roscoe, in the middle of the afternoon on a Saturday. Hardly an area or time of day fitting a street-racing profile.

realracersuseapc · 06-22-2003, 01:58 AM

ok well alota the people who posted basically just said dont go to street races, dont have flashy bodykits etc. but where im at (orange county) cops hassel anyone with a lowered car, rims, and any kind of exhaust. i dont want my car totally stock on the outside. i mean id want to lower it and find some nice mesh rims eventually. this automatically profiles me as a typical street racer. and all they need is "probable cause" to look under my hood, which i would guess is hard to argue against in court. plus if i told him no, and said he needed probable cause he could give me alota sh!t under the table (break your tail lights or whatever, but i doubt it would be something that drastic). im just sayin not everything is done by the books so that would just be askin for trouble. i also read some1 say that a cop couldnt tell a turbo from his a$$ or something along those lines, but say you came across a cop who was into cars. what would happen (in cali)?

ps: thats true wut old_s13 said. p!ss has to be the lamest word ever censored.

*Sanchi* · 06-22-2003, 04:44 AM

Hey Mike ya i gota go to where all the funs at!! Too bad about AF atleast i see you here

Now back on topic, if you get pulled over in Cali, chances are they arnt gona ask you whats under your hood. The cops here arnt asses like that....

Unless ofcorst you give them any reason to punk you around. Ive been harrases several times b4 and alot of times nothing happonds. Just be cool and if your gona be getting pulled over for nothing anyways maby you shouldn't be doing what your doing to begin with :hammer: Bottom line if you afrade of getting pulled over dont do it, plan and simple.

nrcooled · 06-22-2003, 07:53 AM

I don't live in CA but in VA they have emissions and such to controll modded vehicles and such. It's not hard to figure this out the key is to be smart! I drive a car that is illegal in so many ways. I just fly below the radar of the local law enforcement. Also I registered my car out of state so I wouldn't have to deal with paying off officals or swaping the KA back in.

Don't street race, don't go to high profile areas, and don't speed. Plain and simple...how is this difficult? I was completely aware of all the risks when my swap was done two years ago. If you don't want the hassel don't do the swap...duh!

There are ways around everything and a once a year swap seems inevitable for the CA guys

old_s13 · 06-22-2003, 12:24 PM

I dont like to drive super slow, I like to drive pretty fast.. not recklessly, but fast. One thing about me, I dont speed when going straight.. thats pointless. Whats the point of going fast while going straight. In the canyons, I always end up pulling turns.. getting cought while IN the turns is hard.. most cops dont sit in canyons, most cops dont expect people to speed in the turns. Its the hardest place to determine ones speed and its much easier to just cite the masses of people who are speeding on big, flat, wide streets. So chances of getting cought in canyons is much more slim.

Freeways, I tend to go pretty fast.. usually 80mph.. sometimes faster. But as long as you keep a pretty good lookout you should be fine. If you go with the flow of traffic and dont weave in and out of lanes recklessly, why would you get pulled over? Keep your eyes open and obviously slow down when you do see cops, its a matter of respect and trying to blend in.

If your car is so fixed up that you get pulled over everywhere you go, thats your problem. My car has a pretty noticeable look, but I think its still fairly stealthy considering there are just SO many other cars that are more fixed up.

Besides all that, when cops DO pull you over.. you have to get a routine. You have to show respect, know how to talk with respect, and be honest. Cops know their roles, they know how to bring out the worst in people.. for them, it helps generate tickets which makes them money. They'll BE dicks so that YOU can be a dick, as soon as you messup.. they will be there to cite you. When you get pulled over, its nothing more than a business transaction waiting to happen. The more you talk, the more of a chance you have of getting FUKKED.

Where you drive and how you drive makes a big difference, I never go on super popular streets.. I try to stay away from them. In LA, I'de rather take smaller streets and canyons.. its just quicker, less traffic, and smarter. As for being around street-racing areas, its probably a good idea to stay away. I know about the North Hollywood street races but I know better than to go in those areas. Why? Because I dont want to be suspect.. period.

s1 · 08-02-2003, 03:10 PM

You should get hood locks and when an officer asks you to pop the hood tell him you cant and say you left your keys to the locks at home then they cant check ur engine

ridebmx · 08-03-2003, 03:08 AM

bah, just weld ur hood closed.

240Stilo · 08-03-2003, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chokudoriS13
These pollution stings are happening all over, and not just in "street-racing territories." The last one I remember in the San Fernando Valley was on Topanga Canyon and Roscoe, in the middle of the afternoon on a Saturday. Hardly an area or time of day fitting a street-racing profile.

I remember reading some statistic that stated San Fernando as the #1 ticket giving area. San Fernando should get chopped up by the little green face.

srpowereds14 · 08-03-2003, 10:16 PM

I was at the runs up here in tracy and the cops blocked us in they must of had 50 cops or more it was one of the biggest busts they had happened few months ago and we were all lined up waitin for our tickets thats what the cop told me EVERYONE was gonna get a tickit and i was like **** cuase my car has an sr in it and no exhaust juss runnin open downpipe.... well anyways i got up to the front of the line and the officer says "is this a skyline" i laugh at the cop and say NO officer its a 240 he goes "oohh" then he tells me to pop open the hood so i pop it open and he then says "oohhh daym we have major smog violations here" i then start trippen and he says "hold on" so he comes back and i get a ticket for smog violations and have to go to the referree and im like **** so i get the ticket in the mail and it says juss pay the fine im like coooooo! and the find is only $158 dollars.

thx247 · 08-04-2003, 12:53 AM

oh god.

If a cop asks you to pop your hood- do you think hes just wasteing his time for fun?

Do you normally ask to do things you don't want to do? So why would a cop who "knows" nothing about cars ask to pop your hood?

TOO FIND ILLEGAL ****!

How hard is that to understand?

Besides what I've already said about popping your hood for cops....

The roadside test programs are really not that big of a deal. Besides being completely optional...they have a very limited operating area and budget. Not to mention the vehicle selection process is a random variable. Some of the mentioned testing sites are Sacramento, San Diego, Fresno Counties, and Bakersfield. BFD for a large percentage of California I guess...

Procedure is a CHP officer directs you to the smog station lane check thing, you go, get greeted by some guy and he asks you if you want to participate. You just say kthx no. and drive away. One thing I don't know...they write down your plate number if you decline. What happens to that I don't know. They may want the data for later to send you to smog, they may just want to know what kind of cars didn't take the test.

Oh, and according to what I've read, apparently even if you do get tested and fail, they cannot ticket you or impound your car etc etc. Its supposedly only for statistics.

Finally, in the BEST year of this program, 1993, they only managed to a little under 4000 cars.

I don't know about you guys, but thats not even worth worrying about becoming one of those 4000 cars. Worry more about a cop pulling you over for driving the fool.

DudeYourSoOOJDM · 08-04-2003, 01:13 AM

Quote:

routine roadside checks. Basically, they block off a street, and have cars that match a profile - age of vehicle, type of vehicle - onto a mobile sniffer. They also pop your hood. There's no way out of it... No crying or pleading.

So true....I saw a station on my way to school....and I forgot about it when i was making my way home. I Saw that they were still there (they had a Dyno!) and I turned into a neighborhood about 500 feet from where they were.

thx247 · 08-04-2003, 01:09 PM

people in CA have to goto smog every 2 years once their vehicle is over 5 years old.

If you live in a country which is deemed a high smog area, you have a 30% chance or so to be sent to a state ref station. Which basically means putting your car back to stock in order to pass. (If you have an SR in there)

State stations also test you on a dyno, which is harder to pass.

Eventually every smog station in CA will have a dyno. SMOG II.

DudeYourSoOOJDM · 08-05-2003, 12:14 AM

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you have a 30% chance or so to be sent to a state ref station.

I thought 1/3 get sent to TEST ONLY.......I've never heard of anyone getting mail saying go to a referree. Only ones sent to referee's are those that are Red-flagged, gross polluters etc. AFAIK....a cop may send you to a referree if he pulls you over

curbsurfer · 08-06-2003, 01:45 AM

a friend of mine in a turbo gsr was asked to pop his hood by a cop. the cop liked all of the chrome and said he was lucky that he kept the breather hose connected to the intake(turbo intake) or he would have to see a referee. the cop closed the hood and told him if he would have seen a supercharger, he would have given him a ticket.

what an idiot, he couldnt see a turbo under the hood?

btw, if you live in l.a. county, you are in an enhanced zone and you have a %37 of being sent to a "test only" smog check. just another way to make a little extra money i guess.

RedlineRacer · 08-06-2003, 07:05 AM

Who brought this thread back? This thing is like 3 months old.

06-20-2003, 10:47 AM	#32
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 42 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yea, I'm wondering the same thing. I live on the east coast (VA) and I want to know if I will get in trouble if I'm visiting the state while driving my car. __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

06-20-2003, 09:30 PM	#38
Sanchi Macadamia Nut Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Sanchi Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I agree with old_s13 about the "if you want attention your gona get it!!". In LA they stop you just to check your id (drivers license & insurence) stuff like that they arnt there to check under your hood. Besides if your gona drive around all BLING BLING!! you gona get harrashed for pushing your ricer around like that anyways. This stop is just to save time and money. Ive personally try to always avolded it, got traped in one once but they just asked for my drivers license and insurence and i was on my marry way. They usely put it up during cinco di mayo (sp??) looking for DRUNK arsses, just big occations where alot of dum arsses are gona get drunk and drive. So stop crying about it and get rid off all the bling blingy ohh and they do this on any city street, highways that get moderat(sp?) traffic. __________________ "Fear is the path to the Dark Side..., Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to Suffering…" -Yoda Last edited by Sanchi; 06-20-2003 at 09:34 PM..

06-20-2003, 09:43 PM	#39
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Bill Roberts: dont give old_s13 a hassle he's been into and on forums for 240sx since BACK IN THE DAY..like before Freshalloy.com iirc he's old school and a super cool guy also the owner of clearcorners.com! mike is hella cool! post count doesnt mean sh!t! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

06-21-2003, 01:31 AM	#42
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Lets get one thing straight, I am not a cool guy.. I am a DICK. I enjoy p1ssing people off, I get my kicks out of it! I run ClearCorners.Com solely for one purpose: to p1ss off rice-boys. Dousan> Quit sucking up, it wont get you anywhere. From now on, just call me a dick and go with it. Telling others that I am a nice guy is a lie, its like saying Oprah is thin. Just incase you didnt know, that is a lie.. Oprah is NOT thin. We all know Oprah is fat and that the fatness controls her. Sanchi> Are you on this forum too? Sh1t, I thought I could escape from the Automotive Forums.. you're just too popular! Mr Bill> I still have no clue what you are talking about, but its all good.. I'll just go with the flow. ps: Why is p1ss considered a bad word? What is with this lame forum configuration, why are bad words filtered -- and yet, the smiles have animated icons which say A S S H O L E. Dear Mr Zilvia, configure your software.. cussing is a part of automotive culture. If anyone here is under the age of 18 and doesnt know these words, beware.. you will get an *** KICKING in the real world once you grow up. SHEESH Last edited by old_s13; 06-21-2003 at 01:35 AM..

06-21-2003, 02:15 AM	#44
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	qoute.... [Don't know who told you this, but these random tests are indeed mandatory. If non-CARB legal modifications are found, you will be issued a ticket and will be sent to a state ref. There is no liability. If state law allows them to have random checkpoints, then they are obvioulsy able to do so without any repercussion. The BAR guys are also trained fairly well, and will spot an SR in milli-seconds.] ok folks lets get a few things straight here. first off I decided to quote this statement because it bore reference to his earlier one. those random tests you are talking about are only happening in street racing locals like Glen Oaks blvd in Sun Valley . Which just happened to be on the news last night because some dumb kid in a Acura took his own life street racing when he wrapped his car around a light pole. Same thing goes for some parts of the San Gabriel Valley and Orange county and San Diego and areas in the San Francisco bay area. Funny thing is I have been driving SR powered cars all over these areas and have never been hassled. Why? I don't go to street races and I don't go to street racing areas at night . When are you guys gonna learn? I know to many people who have been running turbo KA's and SR's here in socal for years with no problems. If you are that worried about it you are either not bright enough to know enough to stay away or you should not even think of going down that road and just shut the F%$^ up!! This stupid subject has been gone over to many times in to many threads in the last couple of months and each time someone puts up evidence of there claim without thinking about it. Use your brains. You take the chance . Can't pay? don 't play!! Oh damn I got a ticket and I gots to go to the referee!! Guess I have to put a stock engine back in my car. oh life is rough __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

06-20-2003, 09:52 AM	#31
Cthulhu Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 153 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Does all this only apply to cars that are registered in CA, or any car regardless of registration as long as it's driving there?

06-21-2003, 12:20 AM	#40
Bill Roberts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: S FL. Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Cool Aaron. I figure I need to stand up for myself every once in a while and not get run over. I just don't know why he would take time to post that he could not understand the parady and relevence of my post is all. I thought both his rebuttal and my retort were rather unnecessary looking back. You know how it is...don't let anyone gang up on ya.. If I'd have left it alone..it gives an open door policy for others to test me. Definitly not a good vibe. Thanks and I stand corrected.

06-21-2003, 02:28 AM	#45
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	qoute.... [Don't know who told you this, but these random tests are indeed mandatory. If non-CARB legal modifications are found, you will be issued a ticket and will be sent to a state ref. There is no liability. If state law allows them to have random checkpoints, then they are obvioulsy able to do so without any repercussion. The BAR guys are also trained fairly well, and will spot an SR in milli-seconds.] ok folks lets get a few things straight here. first off I decided to quote this statement because it bore reference to his earlier one. those random tests you are talking about are only happening in street racing locals like Glen Oaks blvd in Sun Valley . Which just happened to be on the news last night because some dumb kid in a Acura took his own life street racing when he wrapped his car around a light pole. Same thing goes for some parts of the San Gabriel Valley and Orange county and San Diego and areas in the San Francisco bay area. Funny thing is I have been driving SR powered cars all over these areas and have never been hassled. Why? I don't go to street races and I don't go to street racing areas at night . When are you guys gonna learn? I know to many people who have been running turbo KA's and SR's here in socal for years with no problems. If you are that worried about it you are either not bright enough to know enough to stay away or you should not even think of going down that road and just shut the F%$^ up!! This stupid subject has been gone over to many times in to many threads in the last couple of months and each time someone puts up evidence of there claim without thinking about it. Use your brains. You take the chance . Can't pay? don 't play!! Oh damn I got a ticket and I gots to go to the referee!! Guess I have to put a stock engine back in my car. oh life is rough __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

06-21-2003, 07:06 AM	#46
chokudoriS13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 44 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	These pollution stings are happening all over, and not just in "street-racing territories." The last one I remember in the San Fernando Valley was on Topanga Canyon and Roscoe, in the middle of the afternoon on a Saturday. Hardly an area or time of day fitting a street-racing profile. __________________ S13/86/Miatas/DR30/MX83/E36 M3/S60R/E30 M3 -gone! Now: Porsche 993/MK7 GTI

06-22-2003, 01:58 AM	#47
realracersuseapc Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: south ca Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok well alota the people who posted basically just said dont go to street races, dont have flashy bodykits etc. but where im at (orange county) cops hassel anyone with a lowered car, rims, and any kind of exhaust. i dont want my car totally stock on the outside. i mean id want to lower it and find some nice mesh rims eventually. this automatically profiles me as a typical street racer. and all they need is "probable cause" to look under my hood, which i would guess is hard to argue against in court. plus if i told him no, and said he needed probable cause he could give me alota sh!t under the table (break your tail lights or whatever, but i doubt it would be something that drastic). im just sayin not everything is done by the books so that would just be askin for trouble. i also read some1 say that a cop couldnt tell a turbo from his a$$ or something along those lines, but say you came across a cop who was into cars. what would happen (in cali)? ps: thats true wut old_s13 said. p!ss has to be the lamest word ever censored. __________________ if u cant tell... my sn is a joke...

06-22-2003, 04:44 AM	#48
Sanchi Macadamia Nut Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Sanchi Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey Mike ya i gota go to where all the funs at!! Too bad about AF atleast i see you here Now back on topic, if you get pulled over in Cali, chances are they arnt gona ask you whats under your hood. The cops here arnt asses like that.... Unless ofcorst you give them any reason to punk you around. Ive been harrases several times b4 and alot of times nothing happonds. Just be cool and if your gona be getting pulled over for nothing anyways maby you shouldn't be doing what your doing to begin with :hammer: Bottom line if you afrade of getting pulled over dont do it, plan and simple. __________________ "Fear is the path to the Dark Side..., Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to Suffering…" -Yoda

06-22-2003, 07:53 AM	#49
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 46 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't live in CA but in VA they have emissions and such to controll modded vehicles and such. It's not hard to figure this out the key is to be smart! I drive a car that is illegal in so many ways. I just fly below the radar of the local law enforcement. Also I registered my car out of state so I wouldn't have to deal with paying off officals or swaping the KA back in. Don't street race, don't go to high profile areas, and don't speed. Plain and simple...how is this difficult? I was completely aware of all the risks when my swap was done two years ago. If you don't want the hassel don't do the swap...duh! There are ways around everything and a once a year swap seems inevitable for the CA guys __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

06-22-2003, 12:24 PM	#50
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I dont like to drive super slow, I like to drive pretty fast.. not recklessly, but fast. One thing about me, I dont speed when going straight.. thats pointless. Whats the point of going fast while going straight. In the canyons, I always end up pulling turns.. getting cought while IN the turns is hard.. most cops dont sit in canyons, most cops dont expect people to speed in the turns. Its the hardest place to determine ones speed and its much easier to just cite the masses of people who are speeding on big, flat, wide streets. So chances of getting cought in canyons is much more slim. Freeways, I tend to go pretty fast.. usually 80mph.. sometimes faster. But as long as you keep a pretty good lookout you should be fine. If you go with the flow of traffic and dont weave in and out of lanes recklessly, why would you get pulled over? Keep your eyes open and obviously slow down when you do see cops, its a matter of respect and trying to blend in. If your car is so fixed up that you get pulled over everywhere you go, thats your problem. My car has a pretty noticeable look, but I think its still fairly stealthy considering there are just SO many other cars that are more fixed up. Besides all that, when cops DO pull you over.. you have to get a routine. You have to show respect, know how to talk with respect, and be honest. Cops know their roles, they know how to bring out the worst in people.. for them, it helps generate tickets which makes them money. They'll BE dicks so that YOU can be a dick, as soon as you messup.. they will be there to cite you. When you get pulled over, its nothing more than a business transaction waiting to happen. The more you talk, the more of a chance you have of getting FUKKED. Where you drive and how you drive makes a big difference, I never go on super popular streets.. I try to stay away from them. In LA, I'de rather take smaller streets and canyons.. its just quicker, less traffic, and smarter. As for being around street-racing areas, its probably a good idea to stay away. I know about the North Hollywood street races but I know better than to go in those areas. Why? Because I dont want to be suspect.. period.

08-02-2003, 03:10 PM	#51
s1 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You should get hood locks and when an officer asks you to pop the hood tell him you cant and say you left your keys to the locks at home then they cant check ur engine

08-03-2003, 03:08 AM	#52
ridebmx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Age: 41 Posts: 379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bah, just weld ur hood closed. __________________ I like my car, you may not...You like your car, I may not...To each there own, right? waiting for the sunken look to be cool..lol

08-03-2003, 10:16 PM	#54
srpowereds14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: nor cal Posts: 448 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I was at the runs up here in tracy and the cops blocked us in they must of had 50 cops or more it was one of the biggest busts they had happened few months ago and we were all lined up waitin for our tickets thats what the cop told me EVERYONE was gonna get a tickit and i was like ** cuase my car has an sr in it and no exhaust juss runnin open downpipe.... well anyways i got up to the front of the line and the officer says "is this a skyline" i laugh at the cop and say NO officer its a 240 he goes "oohh" then he tells me to pop open the hood so i pop it open and he then says "oohhh daym we have major smog violations here" i then start trippen and he says "hold on" so he comes back and i get a ticket for smog violations and have to go to the referree and im like ** so i get the ticket in the mail and it says juss pay the fine im like coooooo! and the find is only $158 dollars.

08-04-2003, 12:53 AM	#55
thx247 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: bay area Posts: 1,455 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh god. If a cop asks you to pop your hood- do you think hes just wasteing his time for fun? Do you normally ask to do things you don't want to do? So why would a cop who "knows" nothing about cars ask to pop your hood? TOO FIND ILLEGAL ****! How hard is that to understand? Besides what I've already said about popping your hood for cops.... The roadside test programs are really not that big of a deal. Besides being completely optional...they have a very limited operating area and budget. Not to mention the vehicle selection process is a random variable. Some of the mentioned testing sites are Sacramento, San Diego, Fresno Counties, and Bakersfield. BFD for a large percentage of California I guess... Procedure is a CHP officer directs you to the smog station lane check thing, you go, get greeted by some guy and he asks you if you want to participate. You just say kthx no. and drive away. One thing I don't know...they write down your plate number if you decline. What happens to that I don't know. They may want the data for later to send you to smog, they may just want to know what kind of cars didn't take the test. Oh, and according to what I've read, apparently even if you do get tested and fail, they cannot ticket you or impound your car etc etc. Its supposedly only for statistics. Finally, in the BEST year of this program, 1993, they only managed to a little under 4000 cars. I don't know about you guys, but thats not even worth worrying about becoming one of those 4000 cars. Worry more about a cop pulling you over for driving the fool.

08-04-2003, 01:09 PM	#57
thx247 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: bay area Posts: 1,455 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	people in CA have to goto smog every 2 years once their vehicle is over 5 years old. If you live in a country which is deemed a high smog area, you have a 30% chance or so to be sent to a state ref station. Which basically means putting your car back to stock in order to pass. (If you have an SR in there) State stations also test you on a dyno, which is harder to pass. Eventually every smog station in CA will have a dyno. SMOG II.

08-06-2003, 01:45 AM	#59
curbsurfer Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: palmdale, socal Posts: 222 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	a friend of mine in a turbo gsr was asked to pop his hood by a cop. the cop liked all of the chrome and said he was lucky that he kept the breather hose connected to the intake(turbo intake) or he would have to see a referee. the cop closed the hood and told him if he would have seen a supercharger, he would have given him a ticket. what an idiot, he couldnt see a turbo under the hood? btw, if you live in l.a. county, you are in an enhanced zone and you have a %37 of being sent to a "test only" smog check. just another way to make a little extra money i guess.

08-06-2003, 07:05 AM	#60
RedlineRacer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clemson, South Carolina Age: 40 Posts: 1,054 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Who brought this thread back? This thing is like 3 months old.