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Old 08-14-2009, 11:08 PM   #1
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you can kill someone while driving drunk and get a slap on the wrist. Yet you fight a couple of dogs and get castrated over it. Something isnt right.

You train police search dogs by getting them addicted to drugs. That shit is as cruel as it gets.
theres a difference between intent just to do and just to do leading to an accident. What Stallworth did was wrong and should not be forgiven but, although he made a fatal mistake which resulted in a death of an innocent man. Vick did something that someon would do if they had no heart and no brain. Vick didnt only electricute, drown, hang, bash, pick up and smash on the floor, and beat with a metal pole to his dogs, he also went to peoples backyards and stole other peoples dogs, knocked their teeth out and broke their hip and let his dogs maul the handicapped dog. Some dogs were as small as miniture pintures he did this to. Now that is just not human.

On the other hand, Ive heard that these guys flipped on Vick unfairly. In the south dog fighting is a common occurance. I dont agree with it since a DOMESTICATED animal was not bred to fight, but it is what it is. If all what happened is that Vick owned the house and only KNEW about the dog fighting and didnt participate in the monsterous things that occured in the house then Im willing to let it go. Afterall you have to live to forgive, like what my father says. If he actually did what he was accused and convicted of then I just cant forgive that.

Either way, hes going to suck. He was never a good QB. He oversimplified what is complex offenses in the NFL by scrambling. His arm sucked in his prime and hes not in his prime anymore. In the NFL the difference between a good player and camp fodder is a tenth of a second. Vick has been out of the NFL for 2 years and never played outside of the west coast offense. It took McNabb 3 years to learn Reids offense, what makes anyone think that Vick will play well when its so clear he doesnt have what it takes for the Eagles offense and hes already 30. Hes not a young buck anymore.
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Old 08-15-2009, 04:34 AM   #2
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theres a difference between intent just to do and just to do leading to an accident. What Stallworth did was wrong and should not be forgiven but, although he made a fatal mistake which resulted in a death of an innocent man. Vick did something that someon would do if they had no heart and no brain. Vick didnt only electricute, drown, hang, bash, pick up and smash on the floor, and beat with a metal pole to his dogs, he also went to peoples backyards and stole other peoples dogs, knocked their teeth out and broke their hip and let his dogs maul the handicapped dog. Some dogs were as small as miniture pintures he did this to. Now that is just not human.

...If all what happened is that Vick owned the house and only KNEW about the dog fighting and didnt participate in the monsterous things that occured in the house then Im willing to let it go...
Its my understanding that Vick was not an actual part in the training and/or actual fighting of the dogs. He just provided the location and the capitol. Which doesn't make it right, but it certainly doesn't make him an individual not deserving a second chance. Poor judgement effects many people, he was trying to profit illegally.

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I'm not saying either action was right but what Vick did was MUCH worst than what Stallworth did.
Again here I have to disagree. If somebody stole my dog and used him in an illegal fighting organization of course I'd be extremely upset, and want justice. If somebody killed my child or sibling? They better watch the hell out, I'm not going to searching for just justice unless that involves some sort of life sentence and possibly death.

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Remember, dogs are domesticated animals. This is why fighting dogs is MUCH worst than chickens. And Im not an animal nut. Sure, I love dogs but if you cant see what Vick did was just absolutely inhuman then you need to do some soul searching.
Animal cruelty is animal cruelty, doesn't matter whether its a chicken, dog, pig, or cat. There is no WORSE case in animal cruelty, they are all EQUAL. What Vick did is no more inhuman than blindly killing another human being. Whats even more appalling, even though you don't seem to want to talk about it, is for slaying a human (while drinking none the less) Stallworth spends 23 days in prison. That is just ABSURD!
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