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Old 02-10-2010, 08:24 PM   #31
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Final solution at last!!

Dropped the tranny last weekend because the problem returns not long after I started using s13 11/16" slave. It was all good for about 1 week or so, but then I couldn't get into gear when the engine/tranny/clutch is cold. I had to shift into gear before engine start, then after 1~2 min driving with gear engage, the shifting problem would go away.

This was so frustrating to me especially stepping on the IG dual diaphragm clutch with small s13 slave was no fun AT ALL! My left knee got all sored after a month of driving under this condition... (But the clutch is grabs soooooo good though!!!!)

So finally i decided to take the hard way, dropping the tranny at my friend's shop. Here is what I found:



(nope, no flywheel bolt back out, no pressure bolt back out, nothing wrong with clutch and pressure plate!)
the one on the right is SR sleeve, the one on the left is !@#&*% sleeve thenismoshop sold me promising it would be the correct one. It is NOT! IT IS SHORTER! This is the reason why I could not disengage my f*cking gear!

The wrong sleeve is similar/same to a KA sleeve. Here is a picture when I compare it to my KA sleeve w/ KA TOB:



You can see the SR TOB sitting on the wrong sleeve on the left vs the KA sleeve w/ KA TOB



This is a better comparison pic. The left is SR sleeve, the right is the wrong sleeve (from thenismoshop) w/ SR TOB. The SR sleeve could add ~3mm in length/thickness, which KA TOB is ~3mm taller than SR TOB


What do I learned from this lesson?
KA TOB = Z32 TOB
many people say KA sleeve + Z32 TOB substitute SR sleeve + SR TOB is true
fact: You are near impossible to buy SR sleeve anywhere in the state.
Since KA/Z32 TOB is the same, you can totally replace your SR sleeve + SR TOB with KA sleeve + KA TOB. They are the same length/thickness


PS: my car finally shifts like butter...forever!! Now i'm using exedy stage 1 and i'm able to use nismo slave now too! I miss my IG clutch!

i'm a s-chassis clutch mechanical master now...

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Old 02-10-2010, 08:44 PM   #32
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So finally i decided to take the hard way, dropping the tranny at my friend's shop. Here is what I found:
I don't get it, what did you find? Was your sleeve the one on the right and it was missing the spring that holds it to the fork?


EDIT: I saw your post before it was complete.....

Yes, this can make a difference. Good work!
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Old 02-10-2010, 09:14 PM   #33
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To add even more complexity to the mess:



Left: Original 1996 KA Sleeve with new KA TOB

Right: New KA Sleeve (for a 97) with 350z TOB

And yes it's pressed on all the way:

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codyace, whats the benefit/etc of the 350z equipt?
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I just checked the part numbers for you and the ka and the sr for both S13 and S14 come up with the same part number. I don't know what they sent you but whether it is ka or sr it will be the same. Go to the dealer and give them this part number, 30501-K0404, and you will have the correct one. Depending on the price your dealer gives you it will be anywhere from $16-$20. Hope this helps.
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codyace, whats the benefit/etc of the 350z equipt?
To be quite honest, the main thing that appealed to me was that it was in stock at the dealer, and it literally matched up perfectly (in regard to contact area) to the KA one I've been using.

So ultimately there is no benefit that I can really say, other than availability. Construction wise, and that sort, they are the same, obviously the KA has a thicker body versus the Z33 one, but that's about it. I won't know how it works until end of this month hehe.

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