Drifting is Stupid Thread

[Teddy]

Originally Posted by ranger240

ha why drifting is dumb.

from a drivers perspective other motorsports are principally about performance and or competition. i.e. racing and driving as fast as possible given the road/track conditions (straights,curves,whatever). the exhibition aspect of such activity was always secondary. exhibition being, spectators watching you. sure bmw did the art-car thing, and daytona mopars look cool, but the main point is to drive fast and win races.

drifting, well drifting has that coefficent of performance/racing and exhibition reversed. exhibition is the principal goal of drifting (as a motorsport). in fact the secondary racing aspect of drifting hardly exists as its not quantified (i.e. no timing used) they use JUDGES. thats obnoxious, its like figure skating vs speed skating.

sure the drivers have fun doing both.. but do you want to be a 'ice dancer' or a speed skater?

Just because it's not what you want to do, doesn't mean it's dumb.

If you wanna drive grip and go fast, then go do that and have fun. We don't go drifting because we want to go fast. We drift because it's fun and that's what we want to do.

Sliding a car around a corner may not be a fast way around a corner, but it is still a form of performance driving.

If that is your argument as to why drifting is dumb, it's not very strong.

[ranger240]

Originally Posted by S13Teddy

We drift because it's fun and that's what we want to do.

good point, i was originally going to touch upon that part about drivers preference. im all for drivers choosing to drive the way they personally enjoy.. getting the back loose around a turn is great fun.

its all the vinyl stickers on windshields, the giant stretched tires, 2-way diffs so you break traction easier, the missile cars, the people who trash chassis and throw them away like used condoms... that part of the 240 scene has to change

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by ranger240

good point, i was originally going to touch upon that part about drivers preference. im all for drivers choosing to drive the way they personally enjoy.. getting the back loose around a turn is great fun.

its all the vinyl stickers on windshields, the giant stretched tires, 2-way diffs so you break traction easier, the missile cars, the people who trash chassis and throw them away like used condoms... that part of the 240 scene has to change

See now this is a better statement on your part rather than your thoughtless statement of drifting is dumb.
There are things that the current kids who are into drifting do that you think are dumb. It does not mean drifting in and of itself is dumb.

Perhaps you should have thought about your original statement before making it and making yourself look like a thoughtless troll that does not value achievement at all.


Plus stating that its dumb is not going to change the scene. You are wasting your words on closed ears. Once something has changed you cannot expect it to go back to how it was. That just doesn't happen.

Its like how the Original Rave scene was in the early 90's. It was all about the music and how it brought everyone together regardless of color, preference etc..
The music brought them together to Dance and they left their societal bullshit at the door. Eventually though it became large and people who just wanted a place to take drugs came. Next thing you know the vibe was gone it changed.

It was great for awhile but it changed. Its not the same anymore . What do you do cry about how it sucks now? Or grow and move on? Crying about how it sucks is not going to change what it has become.

So you grow and move on. Life is ever changing not constant. Don't like what has happened with 240's move on. There are other cars out there that are fun as well.

Its really not going to go back to what it was for a long time. Maybe in ten years when the cars are rare and the kids have moved on. Not now though.

So that pretty much sums up the fact that you are pining for something that is over. Get over it and stop making threads pining about it.

[ranger240]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

See now this is a better statement on your part rather than your thoughtless statement of drifting is dumb.
There are things that the current kids who are into drifting do that you think are dumb. It does not mean drifting in and of itself is dumb.

Perhaps you should have thought about your original statement before making it and making yourself look like a thoughtless troll that does not value achievement at all.

........edit cropped out............lots of other good insight..............

Its really not going to go back to what it was for a long time. Maybe in ten years when the cars are rare and the kids have moved on. Not now though.

So that pretty much sums up the fact that you are pining for something that is over. Get over it and stop making threads pining about it.

ha im not wishing the 240 scene was like what it was back in 2002 or something when parts were scarce, info wasnt everywhere, and all that


i want the 240 scene to grow up and chill out like that other poster said about the honda scene...

im married to my 240 for all extensive purposes, 7 good years and im going to make it survive...

the classic porsche scene is much like what i want 240s to become... everyone is more chilled out and focused on getting things done right... (check out pelicanparts.com forum) not flashing around with loud ass pipes and slapping overfenders onto drift-damaged rear quarters rather then learning bodywork and welding in good metal.

[Csomme]

People who buy beat to shit s13s are totally gonna be as cool, smart and nostalgic as people who buy cars for 40k+. Sure


lmao

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by ranger240

ha im not wishing the 240 scene was like what it was back in 2002 or something when parts were scarce, info wasnt everywhere, and all that


i want the 240 scene to grow up and chill out like that other poster said about the honda scene...

im married to my 240 for all extensive purposes, 7 good years and im going to make it survive...

the classic porsche scene is much like what i want 240s to become... everyone is more chilled out and focused on getting things done right... (check out pelicanparts.com forum) not flashing around with loud ass pipes and slapping overfenders onto drift-damaged rear quarters rather then learning bodywork and welding in good metal.

Ok again this is better and I applaud you for putting some real feelings into and thoughts into what you were trying to say.

I think a better statement would have been "I think the drifting craze has fucked up how our cars are viewed".

Its funny too, because back in the day we could not even get respect for our cars. People would be like oh why do you car about that old Nissan. LOL

Then it was like wow you are into those cars. Then it became wow do you drift? I drift blah blah blah.
Then it was every high school kid this side of the sun buying the cars and fucking them up. Half painted, primered grey. Shitty body kits. etc....

So I understand now how you really feel and can't blame you. Cannot say I don't feel the same way to a certain extent.

The difference is I have realized for the most part its not going to go the way of say the Porsche scene.

The cars are too inexpensive and due to Nissan's failure of marketing them properly here in the states of fear of affecting Z32 sales its just not there.

Even though Magazines like Super Street listed them as one of the top ten tuner cars of all time. If that is worth anything. LOL

[Matej]

Originally Posted by ranger240

i want the 240 scene to grow up and chill out like that other poster said about the honda scene...

im married to my 240 for all extensive purposes, 7 good years and im going to make it survive...

the classic porsche scene is much like what i want 240s to become... everyone is more chilled out and focused on getting things done right... (check out pelicanparts.com forum) not flashing around with loud ass pipes and slapping overfenders onto drift-damaged rear quarters rather then learning bodywork and welding in good metal.

Do not worry, thanks to Vaughn Gittin Jr. and viral Ford marketing all drifting enthusiasts will be driving Mustangs soon.

Also, the worst of the worst trends (hoods covered in stickers, goofy colored wheels, etc.) that were plaguing the 240SX 'scene' have been moving into the Euro ''scene,'' mainly BMW's, which are getting cheap and becoming the new hip nonconformist bandwagon car.

Recently the 240SX ''''''scene'''''' seems to be on an upturn, albeit a slight one, but an upturn nonetheless. At least that is what I have observed, through my spyglass, yarrr.

[PoorMans180SX]

Originally Posted by Matej

Do not worry, thanks to Vaughn Gittin Jr. and viral Ford marketing all drifting enthusiasts will be driving Mustangs soon.

Also, the worst of the worst trends (hoods covered in stickers, goofy colored wheels, etc.) that were plaguing the 240SX 'scene' have been moving into the Euro ''scene,'' mainly BMW's, which are getting cheap and becoming the new hip nonconformist bandwagon car.

Recently the 240SX ''''''scene'''''' seems to be on an upturn, albeit a slight one, but an upturn nonetheless. At least that is what I have observed, through my spyglass, yarrr.

This has been my perception as well.

[corey240]

Not arguing with anyone. But have you driven a new Mustang and drifted it? Me and a friend went to a car lot and test drove a 6 cylinder model for shiggles and did some sliding in it where I used to take my 240 and it really was impressive towards drifting. I mean you can buy a Mustang like that for the same price as a Z nowadays if you watch out for them. Im still stepping up to a Z one day but I also wouldnt pass up the coverage JR gets from Ford if I were him. We had a nice conversation with him about the RTR and his thoughts on Mustangs. Youd be suprised...