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iLL_sx · 09-12-2010, 09:41 PM

Got my s14 in the beginning of the summer but since I live in Chicago snow seasons coming but my car is running open diff witch brings my question what would be better in snow LSD or vlsd or would they equally perform the same and it's my DD! Hateing comments or helpful comments will be greatly appreciated thanks

articdragon192 · 09-12-2010, 09:49 PM

First thing's first, a VLSD is a type of LSD.
With that out of the way, any LSD, either helical (or gear driven), clutch type, or viscous (VLSD) will be beneficial in the snow, as it will prevent any kind of pegleg action. Clutch type might be a little too aggressive, and will take some getting used to in the snow I would imagine. VLSDs are usually pretty worn already, meaning they don't lock as well anymore. So it may end up peg legging on you anyways. best bet IMO would be a helical diff.

Sam_Well.13 · 09-12-2010, 10:21 PM

VLSD and rebuild it by re-shimming it with 2 shims instead of 1. cost $10

http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/200226...-j30-vlsd.html

iLL_sx · 09-12-2010, 10:44 PM

Thanks both of you real helpful reason I posted in the first place was because I seen this http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/342015-6-bolt-vlsd.html a little while ago what do you guys think?

articdragon192 · 09-12-2010, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_Well.13

VLSD and rebuild it by re-shimming it with 2 shims instead of 1. cost $10

http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/200226...-j30-vlsd.html

Gotta have a proper working VLSD for that to work. And with shimming, say good by to the pinion an ring gear over time. Haha. But still, it's an option

slomar91 · 09-12-2010, 10:55 PM

Considering the huge price difference between a vlsd and a clutch type lsd unit, i would recommend a vlsd since your just going to use it for daily driving, unless you like changing your diff fluid every other oil change.

SochBAT · 09-12-2010, 10:56 PM

Helical. Helical. Helical.

iLL_sx · 09-12-2010, 11:06 PM

Sorry for the stupid question but what the hell is a helical diff or what does helica mean?

SlideWell · 09-12-2010, 11:14 PM

helical = hellllaaacooooooll
hold on...Let me google that for you

***S14DB*** · 09-12-2010, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by articdragon192

Gotta have a proper working VLSD for that to work. And with shimming, say good by to the pinion an ring gear over time. Haha. But still, it's an option

You are shimming the internals increasing the preload on the VSLD not the bearing shims that keep the ring centered.

As far as the OP's situation. Locking diff is not going to be enjoyable in the snow. Helical is going to be the best bet.

iLL_sx · 09-12-2010, 11:18 PM

Lol that was funny but almost all the threads I read are talking bout witch is better for drifting either helical or clutch I'm not a drift just a student lol

articdragon192 · 09-12-2010, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

You are shimming the internals increasing the preload on the VSLD not the bearing shims that keep the ring centered.

Pardon my assumption. disregard my "Later gears" statement, lol

***S14DB*** · 09-12-2010, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iLL_sx

Lol that was funny but almost all the threads I read are talking bout witch is better for drifting either helical or clutch I'm not a drift just a student lol

Sheesh, first result...
Limited slip differential - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

buentellomma · 09-13-2010, 12:48 AM

i have both a vlsd and a tomei 2way clutch type i swap in from time to time and i enjoy the vlsd more for dd. the tomei is hard to drive in the rain and breaks traction while turning. its great for drifting but no so much for dd. i agree with these guys, get a helical if you can get ahold of one, or just stick with the vlsd

g00se · 09-13-2010, 12:53 AM

Helicals ( like say a S15 LSD ) will also act like an open diff if you hit a patch of ice or have one wheel in the air, I say go with the shimmed VLSD..

09-12-2010, 09:41 PM	#1
iLL_sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: chicago Age: 32 Posts: 127 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	LSD vs VLSD vs SNOW Got my s14 in the beginning of the summer but since I live in Chicago snow seasons coming but my car is running open diff witch brings my question what would be better in snow LSD or vlsd or would they equally perform the same and it's my DD! Hateing comments or helpful comments will be greatly appreciated thanks

09-12-2010, 09:49 PM	#2
articdragon192 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West covina Age: 39 Posts: 6,792 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	First thing's first, a VLSD is a type of LSD. With that out of the way, any LSD, either helical (or gear driven), clutch type, or viscous (VLSD) will be beneficial in the snow, as it will prevent any kind of pegleg action. Clutch type might be a little too aggressive, and will take some getting used to in the snow I would imagine. VLSDs are usually pretty worn already, meaning they don't lock as well anymore. So it may end up peg legging on you anyways. best bet IMO would be a helical diff. __________________ Need help? Click here Still stumped? Try this Can't find what you're looking for? Here you go.

09-12-2010, 10:21 PM	#3
Sam_Well.13 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Costa Mesa Posts: 855 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	VLSD and rebuild it by re-shimming it with 2 shims instead of 1. cost $10 http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/200226...-j30-vlsd.html

09-12-2010, 10:44 PM	#4
iLL_sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: chicago Age: 32 Posts: 127 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Thanks both of you real helpful reason I posted in the first place was because I seen this http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/342015-6-bolt-vlsd.html a little while ago what do you guys think?

09-12-2010, 10:55 PM	#6
slomar91 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Diego Age: 33 Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Considering the huge price difference between a vlsd and a clutch type lsd unit, i would recommend a vlsd since your just going to use it for daily driving, unless you like changing your diff fluid every other oil change.

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SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 39 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Helical. Helical. Helical.

09-12-2010, 11:06 PM	#8
iLL_sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: chicago Age: 32 Posts: 127 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Sorry for the stupid question but what the hell is a helical diff or what does helica mean?

09-12-2010, 11:18 PM	#11
iLL_sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: chicago Age: 32 Posts: 127 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Lol that was funny but almost all the threads I read are talking bout witch is better for drifting either helical or clutch I'm not a drift just a student lol

09-13-2010, 12:48 AM	#14
buentellomma Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Goodyear AZ Age: 39 Posts: 480 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	i have both a vlsd and a tomei 2way clutch type i swap in from time to time and i enjoy the vlsd more for dd. the tomei is hard to drive in the rain and breaks traction while turning. its great for drifting but no so much for dd. i agree with these guys, get a helical if you can get ahold of one, or just stick with the vlsd

09-13-2010, 12:53 AM	#15
g00se Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: CA Posts: 383 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Helicals ( like say a S15 LSD ) will also act like an open diff if you hit a patch of ice or have one wheel in the air, I say go with the shimmed VLSD..