The future of air warfare: MOTHERSHIPS

[supervenom]

Originally Posted by D1champ

They won't be too hard to stop with a RAILGUN!
YouTube - Navy's Record-Breaking Railgun Shot

Sigh. Active Laser Defense System.

Laser: a device that produces a nearly parallel, nearly monochromatic, and coherent beam of light by exciting atoms to a higher energy level and causing them to radiate their energy in phase.

If it does not move faster than the speed of light. The laser will stop it.

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

I would be willing to bet that they knew it was there the whole time and want them to think they snuck up on the carrier group.

Imagine the results of the Chinese thinking they could really sneak up in a real battle. And boom goes the dynamite.

The Chinese are ready to fight a 20th century war. (with the exception of their extraordinary cyber warfare capabilities) The West has mastered 21st Century combined arms warfare beyond any level that the East will reach for the fore-seeable future. And let us not forget, the west created the computer! The "old wise men" of the West would have never let Pandora out of the box if they did not know something we don't about the type of control they possess in regards to cyber dominance.

[kingkilburn]

Originally Posted by supervenom

Sigh. Active Laser Defense System.

Laser: a device that produces a nearly parallel, nearly monochromatic, and coherent beam of light by exciting atoms to a higher energy level and causing them to radiate their energy in phase.

If it does not move faster than the speed of light. The laser will stop it.

Lasers are cool and all but the Phalanx is like sex through munitions.

On top of raw awesome firepower these things can be linked into multiple radar and other early warning tech to locate an incoming object. Given enough warning(equals not much) these things can and will hit any thing at any speed.




P.S.
Laser = heat energy
Rail gun = kinetic energy
They both have their uses and one is not necessarily better than the other. If you want a hint as to how powerful rail guns are/can be, the navy is working on fitting battle ships with a single railgun that runs damn near the entire length of the ship. That is a LOT of kinetic energy.

P.P.S.
The phalanx gives me goose bumps just thinking about it. lol

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by supervenom

Sigh. Active Laser Defense System.

Laser: a device that produces a nearly parallel, nearly monochromatic, and coherent beam of light by exciting atoms to a higher energy level and causing them to radiate their energy in phase.

If it does not move faster than the speed of light. The laser will stop it.



The Chinese are ready to fight a 20th century war. (with the exception of their extraordinary cyber warfare capabilities) The West has mastered 21st Century combined arms warfare beyond any level that the East will reach for the fore-seeable future. And let us not forget, the west created the computer! The "old wise men" of the West would have never let Pandora out of the box if they did not know something we don't about the type of control they possess in regards to cyber dominance.

You already said it, they own our ass in Cyberspace. The problem is, anything and everything we have is tied into the net. They can manipulate the data we see to make us think that we're ready or winning the war. Example of this, we have an online system called IMDS that we track all kinds of maintenance in (aircraft, comm system, almost anything and everything you can think of that is maintenance related), they can go into that system and manipulate the data to make use think that we have our whole F15 fleet red tagged (aka broke). Until you can verify that you know which planes are good, none of them will be flying. We know that they have infilitrated the DoD network that they can flip the switch and completely cut off our forces online, everything in Western Pacific can be cut off from the rest of the US forces and be completely blind.

[supervenom]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

Lasers are cool and all but the Phalanx is like sex through munitions.

On top of raw awesome firepower these things can be linked into multiple radar and other early warning tech to locate an incoming object. Given enough warning(equals not much) these things can and will hit any thing at any speed.




P.S.
Laser = heat energy
Rail gun = kinetic energy
They both have their uses and one is not necessarily better than the other. If you want a hint as to how powerful rail guns are/can be, the navy is working on fitting battle ships with a single railgun that runs damn near the entire length of the ship. That is a LOT of kinetic energy.

P.P.S.
The phalanx gives me goose bumps just thinking about it. lol

The laser can create a plume of excited gasses through which nothing can pass. Just like HAARP. Rail gun projectiles do not travel fast enough to strike the target before disintegrating while traveling through the heat plume.

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

You already said it, they own our ass in Cyberspace. The problem is, anything and everything we have is tied into the net. They can manipulate the data we see to make us think that we're ready or winning the war. Example of this, we have an online system called IMDS that we track all kinds of maintenance in (aircraft, comm system, almost anything and everything you can think of that is maintenance related), they can go into that system and manipulate the data to make use think that we have our whole F15 fleet red tagged (aka broke). Until you can verify that you know which planes are good, none of them will be flying. We know that they have infilitrated the DoD network that they can flip the switch and completely cut off our forces online, everything in Western Pacific can be cut off from the rest of the US forces and be completely blind.

Our systems can run independent from the rest of the net. Again, HAARP can be a method of communication.

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

That is true except that any DOD networks can be made physically separate from the rest of the net. That means that as soon as they pull the external plug the enemy no longer has access.

They can still spread misinformation and hack/attack the rest of the net but I wouldn't say any one nation has a sizable advantage over the others. The lurkers of the net itself(4chan and the like) probably wield far more power in that respect than any nation.

The USA, Israel and India have the most powerful cyber armies on the globe.

PS: Didn't Iran just get hit with a bug that disabled their nuclear power plant. "The most advanced worm ever" they called it!!! USA? Israel?

[kingkilburn]

Originally Posted by supervenom

The laser can create a plume of excited gasses through which nothing can pass. Just like HAARP. Rail gun projectiles do not travel fast enough to strike the target before disintegrating while traveling through the heat plume.

High power laser are most definitely destructive but they are like surgical tools for the most part as in they cut things. What you describe sounds more like a plasma based weapon and that is still science fiction at this point.


My only comment on haarp is

[supervenom]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

High power laser are most definitely destructive but they are like surgical tools for the most part as in they cut things. What you describe sounds more like a plasma based weapon and that is still science fiction at this point.


My only comment on haarp is

Incorrect. Plasma weapon technology has reached and surpassed the level of producing a battle ready weapon; even to the level of being used for stealth as the Soviets have already shown.

That FACT alone means that YES, Plasma has been weaponized.

In regards to laser being surgical in effect..... EXACTLY! The same sort of computer that operates "Phalanx", "Hail Storm", "Excalibur" and other high rate of fire weapons will control the firing mechanism of the active laser defense system. Possible even more advanced. Except that the laser is more powerful than all of those other weapons. Only a momentary burst is enough. A fraction of a second. If that...... And who ever said only one laser would be operational, lol...?

[GabeS14]

Originally Posted by supervenom

The laser can create a plume of excited gasses through which nothing can pass. Just like HAARP. Rail gun projectiles do not travel fast enough to strike the target before disintegrating while traveling through the heat plume.
Our systems can run independent from the rest of the net. Again, HAARP can be a method of communication.

What are you basing your responses on? Youtube videos, personal studies, do you work for an agency? I have seen quite a few videos about this but none of them actually seam truthfull..they all sound like conspiracy theory vids..even thought I believe in some of it, I cant believe it all..because there is no evidence and some of it just doesnt make sense..
I have also talked to people who seamed to know all about it, and I couldn't get them to furnish me any proof or good explanation, it seams they got their info from you tube videos also, which can be very missleading.

Originally Posted by supervenom

Incorrect. Plasma weapon technology has reached and surpassed the level of producing a battle ready weapon; even to the level of being used for stealth as the Soviets have already shown.
That FACT alone means that YES, Plasma has been weaponized.
In regards to laser being surgical in effect..... EXACTLY! The same sort of computer that operates "Phalanx", "Hail Storm", "Excalibur" and other high rate of fire weapons will control the firing mechanism of the active laser defense system. Possible even more advanced. Except that the laser is more powerful than all of those other weapons. Only a momentary burst is enough. A fraction of a second. If that...... And who ever said only one laser would be operational, lol...?

Please enlighten me on the plasma technology that you said the Russian's are using... I am very interested in this!!!links or anything where I can read up on it would be great.

[supervenom]

Originally Posted by GabeS14

What are you basing your responses on? Youtube videos, personal studies, do you work for an agency? I have seen quite a few videos about this but none of them actually seam truthfull..they all sound like conspiracy theory vids..even thought I believe in some of it, I cant believe it all..because there is no evidence and some of it just doesnt make sense..
I have also talked to people who seamed to know all about it, and I couldn't get them to furnish me any proof or good explanation, it seams they got their info from you tube videos also, which can be very missleading.



Please enlighten me on the plasma technology that you said the Russian's are using... I am very interested in this!!!links or anything where I can read up on it would be great.

For more info on HAARP, you must do some independent research. Take it all "with a grain of salt". You have to understand how some of that works before you can understand its military implications.

Plasma being weaponized..?
Russian plasma stealth fighters
Plasma stealth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[kingkilburn]

Originally Posted by supervenom

Incorrect. Plasma weapon technology has reached and surpassed the level of producing a battle ready weapon...

This statement alludes to an offensive weapon.

Using ionized gas to absorb and scatter radar waves is not a weapon, offensive or defensive.

[supervenom]

Originally Posted by kingkilburn

This statement alludes to an offensive weapon.

Using ionized gas to absorb and scatter radar waves is not a weapon, offensive or defensive.

You Sir, are an idiot.

Here is the definition of the word weapon:

WEAPON: Weapon | Define Weapon at Dictionary.com
–noun 1. any instrument or device for use in attack or defense in combat, fighting, or war, as a sword, rifle, or cannon.

2. anything used against an opponent, adversary, or victim: the deadly weapon of satire.

3. Zoology . any part or organ serving for attack or defense, as claws, horns, teeth, or stings.

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