Nissan blows by Honda in global automotive sales

[drift freaq]

Order has been restored in the Automotive World.



Oh and some jackass will definitely call me a Nissan fanboy for this statement.

Honda lovers go the fuck home.

[simmode1]

Glad to hear this news. I appreciate Honda's engineering, but Nissan makes waaaay more exciting & versatile products than them now...

[thrax]

In the past Honda was claiming better quality but many of my friends had bought Hondas/Acuras in the early 1990s the same era i bought my 1993 and the long term reliability and maintenance of my Nissan to their cars was equivalent. So i guess that factor for Honda is no longer in play.

[raz0rbladez909]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Order has been restored in the Automotive World.



Oh and some jackass will definitely call me a Nissan fanboy for this statement.

Honda lovers go the fuck home.

Fanboy..........













I kid I kid lol Finally Nissan is doing something right, now all they need to do is scrap either the Maxima or Altima and throw something more fun into the mix that doesn't look like all their other cars. hehe I dunno how Honda even surpassed Nissan in the first place, after dropping the S2000 their line-up looks almost as bland as Toyota's

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

I kid I kid lol Finally Nissan is doing something right, now all they need to do is scrap either the Maxima or Altima and throw something more fun into the mix that doesn't look like all their other cars.

Ummm... No. I vote keep the Altima and Maxima. They're great in their position/demographic. I say cut the Juke/Cube/Versa and either the Rouge or Murano...

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Ummm... No. I vote keep the Altima and Maxima. They're great in their position/demographic. I say cut the Juke/Cube/Versa and either the Rouge or Murano...

The Versa needs a redo, I drove one as a rental and it was one of the most mundane cars I have driven in years. It literally is a point a to point b car that gets good gas mileage and nothing else.



Juke and Cube? Big mistake to ax either of these. Cube's are great cars. Have you driven one? I have and its a fantastic car for its segment. Beats the shit out of XB's and the Soul. Juke while it needs some possible cosmetic correction is actually a great car as well.
Oh and their is a segment that will take to the Juke like ducks to water.

Rogue and Murano I really do not know what to say. I am not a Sport UTE fan and crossovers to me are just a bizarre segment. Oh and this was a segment that Nissan actually created. They were the first to do it.
So take that for whats it worth. It may not work in your eyes or my eyes but people seem to buy them.

[raz0rbladez909]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Ummm... No. I vote keep the Altima and Maxima. They're great in their position/demographic. I say cut the Juke/Cube/Versa and either the Rouge or Murano...

While I agree with the axing the juke, I just think that the Altima and Maxima are way too similar cars, they try to market the Maxima as their 4DSC(4 door sports car) and they have the SE-r(I'm not sure if they still have it) version of the Altima which both have the same damn engine. Like this from one article "Maxima, whose base price is about $1,000 more than the topline Altima, is less than one inch longer than Altima; less than three inches wider and weighs only 201 pounds more. Maxima's engine (again, a 3.5-liter V6) packs 290 horses vs. Altima's 270."

Read more: Nissan Altima -- less than a Maxima, but not by much : Top Down Auto Blog

To me it just seems like they added an unnecessary car to the bunch, the Maxima is that car, if you're looking for luxury in a Nissan you buy an Infiniti, not Nissans chubby fwd wannabe sports car.

[simmode1]

I agree that it seems crazy to have the topline Altima and the Maxima so similar, but I think the lower level Altimas have a strong hold on their segment of the demographic. But my ex had a 3.5L Altima and I liked it alot, so I guess it's not sooo crazy.

Maxima is needed to compete against the Accord and Avalon. The Altima is needed to compete against Camry, which explains why Nissan offers an optional V6. Nissan needs those two cars. There my be nice little niches for Juke and Cube, I just don't care for them much personally. I can see where the Cube fits into the market though, but I'm confused on the Juke...

[ronmcdon]

Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

hehe I dunno how Honda even surpassed Nissan in the first place, after dropping the S2000 their line-up looks almost as bland as Toyota's

Toyota is doing something right if they're #1.
Looking bland probably isn't such an important determinant in sales figures.
S2k's are cool and all, but they're not the models that are usually popular in sales.

I'd be great to see the particular models from Nissan that contribute to huge sales figures.
(it sure as hell ain't the Z & the GTR, although they might help bring ppl into the showroom).

Hondas look boring, but the 'bread & butter' Nissans like the Versa/Sentra/Altima/Maxima (what I'd presume to be popular sales) aren't exactly cutting edge designs either.
In terms of driving enjoyment, I'd take the current Accord/Civic over the Altima/Sentra anyday
I have test drove them all & owned a 08 civic si.

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

In terms of driving enjoyment, I'd take the current Accord/Civic over the Altima/Sentra anyday

Asking me which of these FWD cars I'd consider buying is like asking me which prison inmate I'd like to be raped by today... Answer: None. But the my ex's Altima definently made me a believer in the VQ35. Gotta get one for the S13 now...

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

Hondas look boring, but the 'bread & butter' Nissans like the Versa/Sentra/Altima/Maxima (what I'd presume to be popular sales) aren't exactly cutting edge designs either.
In terms of driving enjoyment, I'd take the current Accord/Civic over the Altima/Sentra anyday
I have test drove them all & owned a 08 civic si.

I'd take a Cube before any of the above. It has a unique look that I have grown accustom to and it drives great and is very solidly built and very comfortable.

I have driven Civic/Accords and I just can't get my head around the whole Honda thing. Maybe its psychological but I think a lot of people can identify with that. I would own a Ford Focus or Fiesta before I would own a Honda econobox.

Honestly, I think a lot of people looking at cars in that category could give a rats ass, about how fun the car is to drive. Or even how good it looks. Their main concerns are enough power, and gas mileage, followed by reliability.

Nissan would not be selling Versa's on looks or how it drives.

Oh and don't even get me started about the ugliness of a Yaris, lol yet Toyota sells a ton of them.

Cubes? yes but like I said earlier the Cube package just has so many things done right for exactly what it is.

American XB owners need to understand Nissan create that segment. The BB came after the Cube in Japan.
I digress though.

For the most part I put up with FWD cars for one reason and one reason only GAS MILEAGE. Basically if you want killer gas mileage then you are going to be driving a FWD car.
Not to say RWD could be there its just manufacturers put all there gas idea's towards the FWD cars. All the RWD cars being sold are either larger with a bigger engine or Sports oriented.

It would be amazing to see a manufacturer turn out a small RWD(non roadster, hehe aka Miata) car that got great gas mileage. Though the days of that kind of thing are pretty much over.