350 sbc V8 powered S13

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by Pank

if all you care about is torque

The premise of your statement is not true. Therefore, the remainder of your statement cannot be true.

I said I value torque more than HP. I did not say that I value torque and nothing else.

Please explain how diesel vs. gas is relevant to what I said.

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by SexPanda

ok i see what your saying now bra... Go with what you know, do some research, et cetera. Alot of people make stuff for the sr20, and even though its all the same product, quality differs. You just gotta do your homework.

If I lived in Japan, then I would probably pick an SR or a B block, but the US is different. They like their American muscle.

[Pank]

Originally Posted by g6civcx

I mean between GenI and LS-series. What's cheaper to get 400 ft-lbs?

Originally Posted by g6civcx

325 ft-lbs at the wheel. HP is really meaningless.

If HP is meaningless, LIKE YOU SAID, you'd be driving a diesel.


I'm just tired of people acting like torque is the only thing that matters (The Anti-HP race people) then get pissy when their car runs out of breath at 5k

[SexPanda]

No thats now what I was saying. It was an analogy. Go with the v8, I'm all for american muscle.

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by Pank

If HP is meaningless, LIKE YOU SAID, you'd be driving a diesel.

This conclusion is fallacious for the following reasons:

1) You did not respond to my inquiry above. I said "I value A more than B". How does what I said amount to "I value A > *"?

2) I've already responded by saying that a gas engine, and Chevy V8 in particular, has more aftemarket support (i.e. service, parts, "tuners", racing series, etc.) than any diesel. If you dispute my assertion, please say why.

3) For reasons above, I choose gas over diesel. How can "I value torque more than HP" be reasonably concluded that I would be driving a diesel? Please explain your reasoning.

Originally Posted by Pank

I'm just tired of people acting like torque is the only thing that matters (The Anti-HP race people) then get pissy when their car runs out of breath at 5k

I am not one of those people, i.e. I don't care how high the engine revs. Therefore, I do not tire you, at least not for getting pissy when my car runs out of breath at 5k.

Reasonable enough?

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by SexPanda

No thats now what I was saying. It was an analogy. Go with the v8, I'm all for american muscle.

As you know, when in Rome...


Please direct this thread back to the vehicle. If you don't like the engine, please don't post.

I'm sorry for my part in bringing the thread off topic.

[Pank]

Originally Posted by g6civcx

This conclusion is fallacious for the following reasons:

1) You did not respond to my inquiry above. I said "I value A more than B". How does what I said amount to "I value A > *"?

You said that HP was "meaningless"

Originally Posted by g6civcx

2) I've already responded by saying that a gas engine, and Chevy V8 in particular, has more aftemarket support (i.e. service, parts, "tuners", racing series, etc.) than any diesel. If you dispute my assertion, please say why.

If you actually think that diesel service parts are hard to find, I don't know what to tell you.

Originally Posted by g6civcx

3) For reasons above, I choose gas over diesel. How can "I value torque more than HP" be reasonably concluded that I would be driving a diesel? Please explain your reasoning.

Again, you didnt say you valued it more, you said HP was "meaningless"
A stock diesel is going to make way more tq than a slightly modded carbed gas engine. If HP was meaningless, you'd be driving a High TQ low HP diesel around.

Originally Posted by g6civcx

I am not one of those people, i.e. I don't care how high the engine revs. Therefore, I do not tire you, at least not for getting pissy when my car runs out of breath at 5k.

Reasonable enough?

I'm not attacking you, I have a carbed v8 too, but i'm not kidding myself saying that HP doesn't matter

[g6civcx]

Originally Posted by Pank

You said that HP was "meaningless"

If you actually think that diesel service parts are hard to find, I don't know what to tell you.

Again, you didnt say you valued it more, you said HP was "meaningless"
A stock diesel is going to make way more tq than a slightly modded carbed gas engine. If HP was meaningless, you'd be driving a High TQ low HP diesel around.




I'm not attacking you, I have a carbed v8 too, but i'm not kidding myself saying that HP doesn't matter

If you want to discuss please create another thread. Otherwise take it to PM.

[Pank]

So you ask me to explain my comments, then whine about creating another thread?

I'd say this is pretty germane to a Carbed V8 thread, since we're talking about carbed v8's vs. another engine.

[g6civcx]

As a courtesy to the OP, I do not want to take the thread off topic. We were just playing around but it seems like you have a pet peeve.

If you want to eradicate ignorance, then more power to you. Get a PhD and teach.

Just explain one thing to me: how do you generate a power curve for a car engine? What is power and how do you measure it? How do you convert flywheel power to calculate rear wheel thrust?

[Pank]

I don't have a pet peeve, and I don't really care if other people are ignorant. Since you're so worried about the OP's thread getting off track, don't you think trying to trap me with physics problems is a little hypocritical?

Also, everyone knows the answers to those questions. Chillax

[youngmoney]

what happened to this build? should i delete the bookmark?

[bloodangels13]

more build less dick measuring contest.. if you guys wanna rabbel on about gen1 vs Ls_ efi then start a new thread

[PoorMans180SX]

This thread is 2 years old.

Your comments are extremely relevant.

[picsbypenny]

did this ever get finished

[kushlivin]

x2 did u finish the project??

Originally Posted by picsbypenny

did this ever get finished

Originally Posted by kushlivin

x2 did u finish the project??

gentlemen

take a long hard look at the above photo. does it bring up any memories? it should... because it should remind you of SLAVERY. This thread goes back to 1812 for chrissake

does this guy LOOK like he has the skills to actually make something work? would you pay this backwoods tuner/self-claimed engineer to build you a car?

i know one thing for sure, i wouldnt.

[2slow4oz.]

hahahahaha

[GSXRJJordan]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

gentlemen

take a long hard look at the above photo. does it bring up any memories? it should... because it should remind you of SLAVERY. This thread goes back to 1812 for chrissake

does this guy LOOK like he has the skills to actually make something work? would you pay this backwoods tuner/self-claimed engineer to build you a car?

i know one thing for sure, i wouldnt.

Hahahahaha, that shit is hilarious Mike. I'm very curious what happened to this car, if only because of the LSX vs SBC debate going on (from 3 years ago).

What's funny is that now, in 2011, GenIII LS motors are seen as 'old'/'not worth starting with'/etc because the GenIV stuff is so awesome. It's actually easier/better/same price for me to buy a new LS3 shortblock with built internals than to build my LS1/LS6 block (if I go that route).