SR23DET 700hp plus build ***DAFOEDE***

[whereda40at]

Originally Posted by Jybfan04

Gotcha, you said its in Brooklyn park? Thats somewhere in MD?

yeah its just south of baltimore by about 1/2 mile

[Jybfan04]

Originally Posted by whereda40at

yeah its just south of baltimore by about 1/2 mile

Gotcha, found the facebook page no pics...

[ETHANOLED SR]

I apologize ahead of time incase I missed something but my question to you is:

How do you have a bottom end with a 2.35L BC stroker kit in it without sleeves?
Who would machine an SR20 block with 90mm Pistons (that's 4mm over) without sleeving it?
Even if this is possible, why? Why would you build a block without sleeves and have plans on sleeving again later. I'm really lost here and confused?
I'd like to see some pics on here as well dude. It sounds like an interesting build!
But I'm sitting here scratching my head in confusion!!!

[whereda40at]

Originally Posted by Jybfan04

Gotcha, found the facebook page no pics...

pics are on there. its the black 240 with red stripped interior and just a motor lol

Originally Posted by ETHANOLED SR

I apologize ahead of time incase I missed something but my question to you is:

How do you have a bottom end with a 2.35L BC stroker kit in it without sleeves?
Who would machine an SR20 block with 90mm Pistons (that's 4mm over) without sleeving it?
Even if this is possible, why? Why would you build a block without sleeves and have plans on sleeving again later. I'm really lost here and confused?
I'd like to see some pics on here as well dude. It sounds like an interesting build!
But I'm sitting here scratching my head in confusion!!!

I built the bottom end in 2008 and it was my first built motor. I didn't know about sleeves. Back then I never had the intention of going over 600hp but now that im older and the compition is more fierce, I am rolling with it for now and then going to just put the sleeves in when the funds are there. I will have more pics up after i get home from work tonight.

[lewisfk]

what the fuck is up with this facebook garbage! close the damn thread!

[Magical Trevor]

How the hell is this thread STILL up? Facebook links? Build thread in the chat? Lock it up!

[whereda40at]

where do the build threads go then? i have never seen a section for builds, nor have i heard so many whinny bitches in one place,

here are some more pics and new ones will be up saturday morning.

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198528_1922110940808_1483115145_2226686_7900879_n by dafoede, on Flickr

[Magical Trevor]

Originally Posted by whereda40at

where do the build threads go then? i have never seen a section for builds, nor have i heard so many whinny bitches in one place.

Go back and read the rules bud.

Build threads:
Almost everyone enjoys building their cars and sharing that experience, as well as checking out others' builds for inspiration. Sadly, far too many users have a tendency to do half-hearted builds and either rarely update or update with trivial progress. In the interest of keeping the Chat forum clear of three hundred 'Install SR, ziptie aero, rattlecan paint' threads, incomplete, or in-progress build threads are not allowed. If you have completed your build, wrangle all those pictures into a post and tell us about it, but make sure the build is finalized. If you insist on having an in-progress build, Premium members have a specialized subforum for that specific purpose.

Originally Posted by Nick_04K

Your all dicks. This man says he's going to have a sleeved/stroked 850hp SR.

Im down to watch this build. Why aren't you?

IXFXI- Please explain why you believe his engine will blow up before hitting his 700hp mark.

i have a few reasons why i think this car isnt shit

for one, i doubt practically everyone and everything i see. i'm a hater, and i believe that most people are full of shit. maybe if the OP was an engineer for NASA or something. but with the name "whereda40at" i doubt he works for BOEING

two, i dont see any quality in this thread. I just hear a lot of bullshit, like 291hp/liter

three, i've been around long enough to know that builds, all of them, require nothing but insane amounts of planning and engineering. you know, spreadsheets, big shop space, storage space, skill and dedication.

what do i see here? none of that.

plus, i think its absolutely moronic to attempt to extract this amount of power from a piece of shit nissan motor.

listen guys, you want some power.. hang some balls out and install a real powerhouse motor, not some piece of shit 2 liter, reinforced this, 300zx transmission that.. thats all mickey mouse bullshit. at least broadfield has it right going LS, the proper motor for that type of application. even a 2jz-gte would make me say "okay.. possible."

its probably not impossible to get 700+ hp out of an SR, i just think its stupid. i can just see it now:

"ah shit man, did you see that 700+ hp 240sx on the dyno.."
"yeah... 700+ hp for .3 second powerband, amazing"

SR20FAILDET



...and the facebook link sucks too. social networking tomfoolery.

[Magical Trevor]

"ah shit man, did you see that 700+ hp 240sx on the dyno.." "yeah... 700+ hp for .3 second powerband, amazing"

SR20FAILDET

This.

SR20NOPOWERBANDDET

[whereda40at]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

i have a few reasons why i think this car isnt shit

for one, i doubt practically everyone and everything i see. i'm a hater, and i believe that most people are full of shit. maybe if the OP was an engineer for NASA or something. but with the name "whereda40at" i doubt he works for BOEING

two, i dont see any quality in this thread. I just hear a lot of bullshit, like 291hp/liter

three, i've been around long enough to know that builds, all of them, require nothing but insane amounts of planning and engineering. you know, spreadsheets, big shop space, storage space, skill and dedication.

what do i see here? none of that.

plus, i think its absolutely moronic to attempt to extract this amount of power from a piece of shit nissan motor.

listen guys, you want some power.. hang some balls out and install a real powerhouse motor, not some piece of shit 2 liter, reinforced this, 300zx transmission that.. thats all mickey mouse bullshit. at least broadfield has it right going LS, the proper motor for that type of application. even a 2jz-gte would make me say "okay.. possible."

its probably not impossible to get 700+ hp out of an SR, i just think its stupid. i can just see it now:

"ah shit man, did you see that 700+ hp 240sx on the dyno.."
"yeah... 700+ hp for .3 second powerband, amazing"

SR20FAILDET



...and the facebook link sucks too. social networking tomfoolery.

i really do think that i have become dumber after reading what you just posted. You can make just over 700 in a sr without sleeveing the block. No I don't work for nasa, i work in a warehouse. But the guy that is working on my car is bad ass with imports and has built a couple of evo's that hold world records. So before you hop on my thread and TRY to start bashing shit, do some home work. Read my old threads, this car has been around for a while and will continue to be around. Go take your v8 power and grow a mullet off your ass hair and get your trailer trash redneck inbread ass off my thread. Thank you and have a pleasent day.

[slow92]

Whereda40at,

dont listen to all of the hate. Keep doing what you are doing. I have the same power goals in mind except I am going to use a 2.2l big bore motor from mazworx. I just don't understand why everyone with a 240 thinks you should have instant boost and sliding around corners, to each his own. If this thread gets locked please post a video of the finished product on the dyno, cause I want to see the boost curve with that turbo cause I am going to use it as well.

Keep up the good work

[Darren]

Originally Posted by slow92

Whereda40at,

dont listen to all of the hate. Keep doing what you are doing. I have the same power goals in mind except I am going to use a 2.2l big bore motor from mazworx. I just don't understand why everyone with a 240 thinks you should have instant boost and sliding around corners, to each his own. If this thread gets locked please post a video of the finished product on the dyno, cause I want to see the boost curve with that turbo cause I am going to use it as well.

Keep up the good work

Because driving a lag monster sucks donkey cock.... IMO

[Magical Trevor]

Go take your v8 power and grow a mullet off your ass hair and get your trailer trash redneck inbread ass off my thread. Thank you and have a pleasent day.

Why does a V8 have to be trailer trash redneck? Pretty sure an AMG 6.3L V8 isn't redneck... nor is a BMW V8? A 700whp SR is hardly fun to drive and isn't "reliable" by any means. Unless you mean that it can make a few runs on the dyno and spend 90% of it's engine life at 10% of it's peak power.. then sure.

Funny. I am not suggesting an LS V8 as the end-all motor. Actually, wait.. I also suggested a 2JZ-GTE. To clarify, I am suggesting that you take ANY larger, high-performance motor.. and built it right. Not a fucking 2.x liter toy with a massive strap-on turbo.

I love my SR20DET, but I also think its massively limited for your application.

I mean, if I was you I'de probably save my money, get a Viper, Corvette or Supra.. and beat some ass.

What I am not doing, is going to sack-ride a pipe-dream car build like some 18 year old

[statickx991]

Originally Posted by Magical Trevor

Why does a V8 have to be trailer trash redneck? Pretty sure an AMG 6.3L V8 isn't redneck... nor is a BMW V8? A 700whp SR is hardly fun to drive and isn't "reliable" by any means. Unless you mean that it can make a few runs on the dyno and spend 90% of it's engine life at 10% of it's peak power.. then sure.

all depends on how you built it and the tune for it to be reliable.

[whereda40at]

Originally Posted by slow92

Whereda40at,

dont listen to all of the hate. Keep doing what you are doing. I have the same power goals in mind except I am going to use a 2.2l big bore motor from mazworx. I just don't understand why everyone with a 240 thinks you should have instant boost and sliding around corners, to each his own. If this thread gets locked please post a video of the finished product on the dyno, cause I want to see the boost curve with that turbo cause I am going to use it as well.

Keep up the good work

I will have dyno videos and track videos up after the 10th. It's going to be tuned on a mustang dyno so the numbers will be low but the tune will be spot on and the 1/4 mile is what matters most to me.

Originally Posted by ixfxi

Funny. I am not suggesting an LS V8 as the end-all motor. Actually, wait.. I also suggested a 2JZ-GTE. To clarify, I am suggesting that you take ANY larger, high-performance motor.. and built it right. Not a fucking 2.x liter toy with a massive strap-on turbo.

I love my SR20DET, but I also think its massively limited for your application.

I mean, if I was you I'de probably save my money, get a Viper, Corvette or Supra.. and beat some ass.

What I am not doing, is going to sack-ride a pipe-dream car build like some 18 year old

You obviously havent broaden your search about sr's making power. Do some searching as all the other people on this forum like to say and then come back. houself has a sr with big numbers that has a smaller turbo than what im running. If I wanted a V8 i would put one in. Plus you can't run a V8 in a import running in a true street class.

God, why am I even proving points to you, your fucking retarded. Did you even read what the car is built for? Its not a dyno queen, its a 1/4 slut.

[daryl337]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

i have a few reasons why i think this car isnt shit

for one, i doubt practically everyone and everything i see. i'm a hater, and i believe that most people are full of shit. maybe if the OP was an engineer for NASA or something. but with the name "whereda40at" i doubt he works for BOEING

two, i dont see any quality in this thread. I just hear a lot of bullshit, like 291hp/liter

three, i've been around long enough to know that builds, all of them, require nothing but insane amounts of planning and engineering. you know, spreadsheets, big shop space, storage space, skill and dedication.

what do i see here? none of that.

plus, i think its absolutely moronic to attempt to extract this amount of power from a piece of shit nissan motor.

listen guys, you want some power.. hang some balls out and install a real powerhouse motor, not some piece of shit 2 liter, reinforced this, 300zx transmission that.. thats all mickey mouse bullshit. at least broadfield has it right going LS, the proper motor for that type of application. even a 2jz-gte would make me say "okay.. possible."

its probably not impossible to get 700+ hp out of an SR, i just think its stupid. i can just see it now:

"ah shit man, did you see that 700+ hp 240sx on the dyno.."
"yeah... 700+ hp for .3 second powerband, amazing"

SR20FAILDET



...and the facebook link sucks too. social networking tomfoolery.

Mazworx's would probably like to have a word with you. I'd like you to tell them to their face that the work they performed on their drag car is shit.

If you don't like tuning on Nissans, GTFO imo. You are on a Nissan forum. Don't walk into a grocery store and complain that all you see is food. Part of the fun part of being a tuner is taking an engine that was not designed to crank out large power... and make it crank out large power! Swapping small blocks into other cars =/= tuning. That only shows off your ability to stuff large stuff into small holes. Whoopdy do. I do that everynight with my girlfriend.









Darren made the point about driving lag monsters. Exactly how many 800+ hp supras do you see spool at 2500rpms? RX7's converted to single turbos are some of the spikiest power curves you can see... but its still fun.

[whereda40at]

Originally Posted by daryl337

Mazworx's would probably like to have a word with you. I'd like you to tell them to their face that the work they performed on their drag car is shit.

If you don't like tuning on Nissans, GTFO imo. You are on a Nissan forum. Don't walk into a grocery store and complain that all you see is food. Part of the fun part of being a tuner is taking an engine that was not designed to crank out large power... and make it crank out large power! Swapping small blocks into other cars =/= tuning. That only shows off your ability to stuff large stuff into small holes. Whoopdy do. I do that everynight with my girlfriend.









Darren made the point about driving lag monsters. Exactly how many 800+ hp supras do you see spool at 2500rpms? RX7's converted to single turbos are some of the spikiest power curves you can see... but its still fun.

Thank you!!!!!!!

[Pure_JDM]

Originally Posted by whereda40at

your fucking retarded.

quoted for grammatical awesomeness.

[Magical Trevor]

Originally Posted by Pure_JDM

quoted for grammatical retardedness.

Fixed for you

[Pure_JDM]

lock this piece already...

[DrIvEsldEwAyS]

how many of you shit talkers have driven anything other than a stock sr with a t28?

a big turbo SR is not unreliable or boring to drive.

[niSm095]

ha...tell em Austin...I'd love to see somethin come out of this..I'm not much on drag cars, but the Mazworx drag car is nasty.

[whereda40at]

Originally Posted by niSm095

ha...tell em Austin...I'd love to see somethin come out of this..I'm not much on drag cars, but the Mazworx drag car is nasty.

My car is sort of compariable to the s14 true street drag car from mazworx. I'm in a much lighter car and going to have around the same hp numbers as that car. Only im running a faster spooling turbo also. Like I said, the finial goal is 8.90 in the 67mm class. If need be, I will up grade to a 6765 and call it a day.

[S14kouki_10]

Finish this already so ixfxi can shut the fuck up.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by DrIvEsldEwAyS

how many of you shit talkers have driven anything other than a stock sr with a t28?

a big turbo SR is not unreliable or boring to drive.

A big turbo SR is not unreliable or boring to drive?!?! It is unreliable when you fucking bore it out to 90mm without fucking sleeving it!!! Yes, its boring to drive, no fucking power till you hit 5K is fucking weak sauce. Dont believe me? I fucking owned one. Its all fun and shit, if you dont plan on driving at less than 5k rpm.

Guy is fucking comparing 4G63s vs SR20s, guess he doesnt take into account that 4Gs are iron blocks vs SR20's weak aluminum block that doesnt like to be bored out more than 87mm without sleeving it.

This isnt a damn build thread...this is a hopes and dreams thread....

[japslapsilvia]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

This isnt a damn build thread...this is a hopes and dreams thread....

QFT

msglngth

[ThatGuy]

This definitely isn't a build thread.

It has been left open up until this point, with the hopes that we might see some ACTUALLY BUILDING. Instead we just have speculation and conjecture about whether or not it will even work, or for how long.

Build something, prove something, then start a thread.