Scion FR-S Debut in New York

[raz0rbladez909]

Originally Posted by revcyanide

those looked retarded, but the proved it shaved massive amount of time off his runs.
its not liek they were like OMG MOAR SPOILERS. and it ONLY helped the car because it was FWD.
function over form in professional racing? OH WAIT I FORGOT TIME ATTACK CARS NEED MORE STANCE

STANCENATION

but really s2000 are amazing cars if you are planning on doing grip. I am sure it will eat both these cars up in grip.
but as far as drifting goes, its not fun at all, really realllllyyy hard to control, it either wants to understeeer or spin out. hard to find the perfect balence to hold a drift.

If you are buying a brand new car to go drifting in then you are in idiot; And you can't really compare an s2000 to this car considering the cost of an s2k was between 35-40k brand new. This car is for people who want something NEW, not some used car special that every ricer is going to be getting their hands on now since the prices have reached an "affordable" area for people living off mcdonalds salary. I admit I love that the concept is getting closer and closer to reality, it's about time Toyota/Scion came out with something truly sporty and not another fwd econobox. May be trading in my wifes car for one

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

if you think the GC's 2.0t is gutless, then dont have high hopes for this.
It's 2.0l n/a, & you would be fortunate if it got anything close to the output of say a civic Si

it is probably fair to say this is more of a Miata competitor considering the price range & powerplant, as mentioned prior.
A base Miata starts at 23k (which is probably at least $5k overpriced imo),
so if Toyota can undercut that pricing while offering a similar drive, it would be great.

I still think that the Genesis Coupe 3.8R @ 26k-ish & the Mustang 5.0 w/ Brembos @ 32k-ish are the best new RWD cars for the $$$ right now.
(based on what I test drove at least)

Yeah I mentioned the Miata earlier in the thread. This car has the same goals as the Miata minus the open top driving. But really it's about the driving dynamic, handling, and control.

Originally Posted by stevenwhite1989

I will pass on this... I will get me a nice S2000 for half these prices and eat these things up on a daily basis, as well as the 2.0T GC. If you want an awesome platform for balance and power go with the S2000. Its only a matter of time before they put one of those god awful front spoilers off that stupid TC on this thing.

Yeah, if you are looking to "eat" people up, you should pass. This isn't the car for you. Again, this car is about handling. not straight line speed. I lost interest in that stuff a long time ago.

[revcyanide]

Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

If you are buying a brand new car to go drifting in then you are in idiot; And you can't really compare an s2000 to this car considering the cost of an s2k was between 35-40k brand new. This car is for people who want something NEW, not some used car special that every ricer is going to be getting their hands on now since the prices have reached an "affordable" area for people living off mcdonalds salary. I admit I love that the concept is getting closer and closer to reality, it's about time Toyota/Scion came out with something truly sporty and not another fwd econobox. May be trading in my wifes car for one

meh, if you have deep pockets, people on here drift 240s with WAY to much money dropped into them.
I plan on getting one and takeing it the the track for fun, but a few years after they are out when the price drops.
autocross lots = no walls or poles = no huge danger, as long as you arnt pushing the car too hard.

people here track their DD's too, that shit is more retarded IMO.

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Originally Posted by revcyanide

meh, if you have deep pockets, people on here drift 240s with WAY to much money dropped into them.
I plan on getting one and takeing it the the track for fun, but a few years after they are out when the price drops.
autocross lots = no walls or poles = no huge danger, as long as you arnt pushing the car too hard.

people here track their DD's too, that shit is more retarded IMO.

Auto-X is perfectly safe on a brand new vehicle. That would be my main intent. I'm not into drifting so i would be doing that.