President to announce development on Osama Bin Laden is dead

[daryl337]

Ive been in the army for over 4 years now. I was and am not what I call patriotic. I did not join to save our country, or because Osama/Obama who the fuck ever blew up some buildings. I simply joined because I needed health care and a roof over my families head.

That being said, do you really think that we are getting the real story ? Do you really think that we could not find one person for almost 10 years ? Do you really think he was not left alive to fuel americans to forge on into afghanistan or iraq ? Do you really think that our gov. does not cover up things to keep our mindset a certian way ?

All of you need to start thinking for your self. Yeah lets celebrate one guy's death. Because there is not some osama jr. somewhere thats about to take one extremists place. If anything this is just american PROPAGANDA to justify where and why we are, where we are, and the countless $$$ spent on some endless nonsince.

All that will come about is something will be blown up(because thats how "bad guys" solve problems) and we will chase some more man jamie wearing guys into another remote part of a country we should not be in.

FUCK THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT

And how many civilians feel proud or some since of accomplishment ?

Why ?

This post, comes off as idiotic at best. Your other posts afterwards, are much better and have slightly changed my feelings about you.

My retort however, is going to be...

If you didn't like the heat, perhaps you should take the time to gather your thoughts prior to opening your big trap.

You can not, in good faith, come out and admit that you had served the military due to your own selfish needs... go and serve the terms over in a foreign country unwillingly (from what you have typed about not being patriotic and not liking the government or agreeing with the war, im assuming you were assigned duty in the middle east unwillingly)... and then command the same respect as the people who actually fought for their country willingly. You didn't choose to make a sacrifice from the sounds of it. You had that decision made for you... because you were baited into the service with dreams of healthcare and a steady paycheck. You then justify your unwillingness by claiming that you are being unique by thinking for yourself.


If anything, your personal vendetta to get your message out about the 'truths' of the government is not original... at all. The hippy movement originated that attitude long before you and I were even a shine in our parents eyes. It's one thing to question the future of our nation and government... but its another thing to spout off conspiracy theories about leaving a known terrorist alive to fuel a war... and then demand respect from the people who actually signed up for the job.

If you served in the middle east, then I tip my hat at you. I won't however, hold you in the same regard as those who actually stepped up to the job without kicking and crying the entire way.

[Pblesh85]

Originally Posted by daryl337

This post, comes off as idiotic at best. Your other posts afterwards, are much better and have slightly changed my feelings about you.

My retort however, is going to be...

If you didn't like the heat, perhaps you should take the time to gather your thoughts prior to opening your big trap.

You can not, in good faith, come out and admit that you had served the military due to your own selfish needs... go and serve the terms over in a foreign country unwillingly (from what you have typed about not being patriotic and not liking the government or agreeing with the war, I'm assuming you were assigned duty in the middle east unwillingly)... and then command the same respect as the people who actually fought for their country willingly. You didn't choose to make a sacrifice from the sounds of it. You had that decision made for you... because you were baited into the service with dreams of health care and a steady paycheck. You then justify your unwillingness by claiming that you are being unique by thinking for yourself.


If anything, your personal vendetta to get your message out about the 'truths' of the government is not original... at all. The Happy movement originated that attitude long before you and I were even a shine in our parents eyes. It's one thing to question the future of our nation and government... but its another thing to spout off conspiracy theories about leaving a known terrorist alive to fuel a war... and then demand respect from the people who actually signed up for the job.

If you served in the middle east, then I tip my hat at you. I won't however, hold you in the same regard as those who actually stepped up to the job without kicking and crying the entire way.

I will applaud your since of "manor's" and not coming off as an asshole(completly... a subtle one is still the same).

You have to except and understand that people don't have to have the same mindset as the GP. I for one like to think that I have my own beliefs and somewhat original thoughts.

I joined knowing that I could be deployed at the drop of a hat. I was not forced to go and I understood that prior and after wards. My original contract is up, I chose to stay. But not for someone Else's war.

Now to say that the military does not creatively tell the truth(especially retention) or hand out pipe dreams... Than you are blind... I was not told that I would deploy for 24+ months in 3 years and be on my 3rd deployment before I hit 5years of service. I was not told about alot of things about the army and how it works. Career progression mainly... But I am not bitter about that. I am bitter about the relationship it ruined, and lack of time I get to see my family especially my daughter. Not to mention the current one that is being tested by my lack of time I get at home. But this is not about a personal grudge or feel of mistreatment.

To show you how the gov. hides things.
We were at a live fire exercise and started a rather "large" wild fire. So bad that the state Governor got involved. The news later said it was due to a lightning strike. There was no damn lightning involved. They just did not want any bad press for the military.

Now I do not try to convince others of my beliefs or theories. It is for their selves to figure out what they wish to believe. But to not question what we are told or led to believe is idiotic.