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slidingsideways240 · 10-19-2005, 06:49 PM

I have been wokring on this problem for three days now thinking what could be wrong with my starting system. I get power from my battery, but when i turn the key all it does is click from the fuse box near the driver side headlight and a click from underneath my steering wheel near that fuse box. Please let me know if any of you have an idea whats going on. thanks.

ryan hagen · 10-19-2005, 06:53 PM

clicking is a relay, did you change the starter or anything? drive through water, was it making bad sounds previous? starter could be bad? or not grounded well, could be alot of things, need some more info.

slidingsideways240 · 10-19-2005, 07:57 PM

For a while it took 2-3 times of turning the key to finally get the motor to start. so i decided to change out my battery terminals and then i started the key and it turned over perfectly on the first try, but i noticed one of the terminals was not placed on the battery to well so i wiggled it down more on the outpost and then tried turning over the car and thats when the clicking startec. I never drove then any water lately. I figured my ground(negative cable) which i hooked directly back to the intake mani. should not have a problem cause it started the car untill i moved the terminal. i replaced that red box (some cars black) today and that didnt work either. Which relay would it be that your talking about? is it possible that one of them blew or a fuse blew (i checked all the smaller fuses but i dont know how to check the 30's that run the ignition swith if im right) let me know if you need anything else answered.

s13_gearhead · 10-19-2005, 08:00 PM

I think I might have a solution for you.

Same thing was happening with a car I just installed a fresh motor into. Turns out that the clutch interlock switch behind the clutch pedal (it's a screw-in type sensor, adjustable) wasn't getting depressed by the clutch pedal, and therefore the car wasn't starting. Check to make sure that sensor is fully depressed when the clutch pedal is on the floor.

Let me know how it goes.

slidingsideways240 · 10-19-2005, 08:14 PM

sorry but i left out the most important yet must embarasing thing......its an automatic.

ryan hagen · 10-19-2005, 08:32 PM

try jump starting it, u may have damaged a terminal? or have a bad connection, that clicking is usally either not enough battery power to engauge the starter, or something has a high resistance(bad connection or loose wire) and if you ahve been trying alot or leaving the key on your battery could be drained.

slidingsideways240 · 10-19-2005, 08:37 PM

my friend and i have tried jumping it three times now, but no luck(he car reads a steady 13.7volts the whole attempt) maybe the battery is bad now. it would not be a bad idea to get it tested...would that show if the battery is bad now? but wouldnt it still jump though even if the terminal is bad (though it still supplies power to the brake lights, etc.??

420sx · 10-20-2005, 12:25 AM

take of ur positive cable connection and clean them from corrosition, then make sure the ground is clean/tight. try now. if that didnt work try different battery. if didnt work test ur starter - this one can be done as step 2.

slidingsideways240 · 10-21-2005, 06:04 PM

well i just tried a new battery and it wont work still, just supplies power to my electronics. I hooked up one of those testers that light up when you have electricity to my battery terminals and the positive one light the pen up, but when i tried it to my negative nothing happend...could that mean im not getting enough ground? or does this all mean i need a new starter. im confused

brokeAs240sx · 10-21-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by slidingsideways240

well i just tried a new battery and it wont work still, just supplies power to my electronics. I hooked up one of those testers that light up when you have electricity to my battery terminals and the positive one light the pen up, but when i tried it to my negative nothing happend...could that mean im not getting enough ground? or does this all mean i need a new starter. im confused

You really need to get an FSM or something to learn how to test your car...

No, the light won't go on if u put a ground + ground (negative to negative).. that is normal.

Are you SURE all connections are secure? if that is the case... then we can move on.

Here's a test on the starter:

1) Locate your starter.

2) Have someone get ready to crank the key

3) Get a long pipe/bat or whatever.

4) While the person in teh car is turning the key (while you hear that click click click), you hit/poke sort of hard at the starter w/ the long metal object.

5) If car starts, then your starter is bad. If it still doesn't start, well, either the starter is realllly bad or you have some loose/bad connection somewhere.

Other easy way to test the starter is to take it out and bring it to a kragen/autozone whatnot and have them test the starter.

slidingsideways240 · 10-21-2005, 10:47 PM

Well tomorrow ill be able to work on my car for a little bit more, this is really starting to aggervate me. Thanks....ill keep yall updated

theicecreamdan · 10-21-2005, 11:23 PM

starter is bad

darklord0424 · 10-22-2005, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by theicecreamdan

starter is bad

Bingo, I'm shocked no one got this sooner.

ryan hagen · 10-22-2005, 05:27 PM

u can bench test the starter, just be careful doing, it, watche da kid in my class launch one across a table cause he didnt clamp it down good.

slidingsideways240 · 10-23-2005, 06:46 PM

ok so i put a new starter on today, i go to turn the car over, and ......there goes all my power! any ideas?

slidingsideways240 · 10-23-2005, 08:29 PM

Yay! Finally got the car to run again

Thanks for the help

glycerine169 · 08-29-2011, 06:33 AM

What did you do to get it running again? i am having the same problems with my 91' and it is a pain in the a$$.

ChinkyChris · 08-29-2011, 07:48 AM

WOW this thread is OLD!
its from 05 bud..... If you are having the same issue he did. I'm willing to bet he blew the 75A Fuse when he changed the starter....

BTW, welcome to zilvia

glycerine169 · 08-29-2011, 08:22 AM

Yea i realized it was old but it was the only thread I saw with the same problems I was hoping to get a response from someone. My car was dead this morning when I went to go to work.

glycerine169 · 08-29-2011, 08:45 AM

Thanks for the welcome as well I just started on my 240 about a month ago I also have a supra that's strictly track now so it was kinda upsetting when the 240 didn't start for me.

10-19-2005, 06:49 PM	#1
slidingsideways240 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisiana Age: 38 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ka24de (1991) Clicks but wont turn I have been wokring on this problem for three days now thinking what could be wrong with my starting system. I get power from my battery, but when i turn the key all it does is click from the fuse box near the driver side headlight and a click from underneath my steering wheel near that fuse box. Please let me know if any of you have an idea whats going on. thanks.

10-19-2005, 06:53 PM	#2
ryan hagen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: rhinelander wisconsin Age: 42 Posts: 1,465 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	clicking is a relay, did you change the starter or anything? drive through water, was it making bad sounds previous? starter could be bad? or not grounded well, could be alot of things, need some more info. __________________ 1990 hatch ka24de gt2871r

10-19-2005, 08:32 PM	#6
ryan hagen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: rhinelander wisconsin Age: 42 Posts: 1,465 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	try jump starting it, u may have damaged a terminal? or have a bad connection, that clicking is usally either not enough battery power to engauge the starter, or something has a high resistance(bad connection or loose wire) and if you ahve been trying alot or leaving the key on your battery could be drained. __________________ 1990 hatch ka24de gt2871r

10-20-2005, 12:25 AM	#8
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	take of ur positive cable connection and clean them from corrosition, then make sure the ground is clean/tight. try now. if that didnt work try different battery. if didnt work test ur starter - this one can be done as step 2. __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

10-22-2005, 05:27 PM	#14
ryan hagen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: rhinelander wisconsin Age: 42 Posts: 1,465 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	u can bench test the starter, just be careful doing, it, watche da kid in my class launch one across a table cause he didnt clamp it down good. __________________ 1990 hatch ka24de gt2871r

10-19-2005, 07:57 PM	#3
slidingsideways240 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisiana Age: 38 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For a while it took 2-3 times of turning the key to finally get the motor to start. so i decided to change out my battery terminals and then i started the key and it turned over perfectly on the first try, but i noticed one of the terminals was not placed on the battery to well so i wiggled it down more on the outpost and then tried turning over the car and thats when the clicking startec. I never drove then any water lately. I figured my ground(negative cable) which i hooked directly back to the intake mani. should not have a problem cause it started the car untill i moved the terminal. i replaced that red box (some cars black) today and that didnt work either. Which relay would it be that your talking about? is it possible that one of them blew or a fuse blew (i checked all the smaller fuses but i dont know how to check the 30's that run the ignition swith if im right) let me know if you need anything else answered.

10-19-2005, 08:00 PM	#4
s13_gearhead Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Age: 42 Posts: 217 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think I might have a solution for you. Same thing was happening with a car I just installed a fresh motor into. Turns out that the clutch interlock switch behind the clutch pedal (it's a screw-in type sensor, adjustable) wasn't getting depressed by the clutch pedal, and therefore the car wasn't starting. Check to make sure that sensor is fully depressed when the clutch pedal is on the floor. Let me know how it goes.

10-19-2005, 08:14 PM	#5
slidingsideways240 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisiana Age: 38 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sorry but i left out the most important yet must embarasing thing......its an automatic.

10-19-2005, 08:37 PM	#7
slidingsideways240 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisiana Age: 38 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my friend and i have tried jumping it three times now, but no luck(he car reads a steady 13.7volts the whole attempt) maybe the battery is bad now. it would not be a bad idea to get it tested...would that show if the battery is bad now? but wouldnt it still jump though even if the terminal is bad (though it still supplies power to the brake lights, etc.??

10-21-2005, 06:04 PM	#9
slidingsideways240 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisiana Age: 38 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well i just tried a new battery and it wont work still, just supplies power to my electronics. I hooked up one of those testers that light up when you have electricity to my battery terminals and the positive one light the pen up, but when i tried it to my negative nothing happend...could that mean im not getting enough ground? or does this all mean i need a new starter. im confused

10-21-2005, 10:47 PM	#11
slidingsideways240 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisiana Age: 38 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well tomorrow ill be able to work on my car for a little bit more, this is really starting to aggervate me. Thanks....ill keep yall updated

10-23-2005, 06:46 PM	#15
slidingsideways240 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisiana Age: 38 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok so i put a new starter on today, i go to turn the car over, and ......there goes all my power! any ideas?

10-23-2005, 08:29 PM	#16
slidingsideways240 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Louisiana Age: 38 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yay! Finally got the car to run again Thanks for the help

08-29-2011, 06:33 AM	#17
glycerine169 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Brusly, La. Age: 40 Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What did you do to get it running again? i am having the same problems with my 91' and it is a pain in the a$$.

08-29-2011, 07:48 AM	#18
ChinkyChris Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 382 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	WOW this thread is OLD! its from 05 bud..... If you are having the same issue he did. I'm willing to bet he blew the 75A Fuse when he changed the starter.... BTW, welcome to zilvia

08-29-2011, 08:22 AM	#19
glycerine169 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Brusly, La. Age: 40 Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yea i realized it was old but it was the only thread I saw with the same problems I was hoping to get a response from someone. My car was dead this morning when I went to go to work.

08-29-2011, 08:45 AM	#20
glycerine169 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Brusly, La. Age: 40 Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks for the welcome as well I just started on my 240 about a month ago I also have a supra that's strictly track now so it was kinda upsetting when the 240 didn't start for me.