Fake vs real NARDI stress test.

[Melonburst]

Having purchased an Ebay wheel a long time ago I can definitely vouch for the validity of the Driftworks video. They're very flexible and even more so when left in the car on a hot summer day. I purchased a Nardi Deep Corn wheel (350mm) from FRsport a while back and the thing is ridiculously rigid. It will not bend with anything short of a high speed crash.

Also, the whole Rota comparison is retarded. Although Rota is a knockoff company they still meet strict international standards when it comes to the quality of their wheels. They are decent cast wheels and are also track proven. I would never trade my VS-KF's for them but I don't blame people for purchasing them if they're on a budget.

These steering wheels are not quality controlled at all and do not meet any requirements.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by Melonburst

Having purchased an Ebay wheel a long time ago I can definitely vouch for the validity of the Driftworks video. They're very flexible and even more so when left in the car on a hot summer day. I purchased a Nardi Deep Corn wheel (350mm) from FRsport a while back and the thing is ridiculously rigid. It will not bend with anything short of a high speed crash.

Also, the whole Rota comparison is retarded. Although Rota is a knockoff company they still meet strict international standards when it comes to the quality of their wheels. They are decent cast wheels and are also track proven. I would never trade my VS-KF's for them but I don't blame people for purchasing them if they're on a budget.

These steering wheels are not quality controlled at all and do not meet any requirements.

Rota's may be imitations, but they are not "counterfeits" people in the import community need to begin to get a better understanding of these terms.

"inexpensive", "Knock-Off", "Counterfeit" and "Clone".

[jamg]

Originally Posted by om3ga

Lol, did you guys see this video

fake nardi review .wmv - YouTube

that's exactly what i though.

he actually puts a decent amount of force into trying to damage the wheel, but it's next to none.

fake or not, ass you see in that video, it still holds up. that one wheel the in the OP's video was probably messed with.

edit: lol. from that guys accent, he's definitely chinese. he's probably a big producer of those wheels. lolol

[sidewayz240]

Originally Posted by jamg

that's exactly what i though.

he actually puts a decent amount of force into trying to damage the wheel, but it's next to none.

fake or not, ass you see in that video, it still holds up. that one wheel the in the OP's video was probably messed with.

No, it wont hold up. The load applied to the wheel in that video dosn't replicate 90% of the forces on the wheel when its bolted to a hub and actually in use. Totally useless testing. Plus the wheel is clearly bent after hes done, and that's the wheels strongest points hes using.

[jamg]

Originally Posted by sidewayz240

No, it wont hold up. The load applied to the wheel in that video dosn't replicate 90% of the forces on the wheel when its bolted to a hub and actually in use. Totally useless testing. Plus the wheel is clearly bent after hes done, and that's the wheels strongest points hes using.

you're doing it wrong. bolted in a hub and in use... you turn it left and right...

the amount of force of a person standing over it is greater than that of you turning it.

it's bent because he applied greater force by jumping on it with all his weight. and the way the steering wheel spokes are built. of course it's of cheaper quality, so it's bound to be a little damaged.

i weigh 185lbs @ 8% body fat, i guarantee i can do the same for any steering wheel that's built like that.

just look at the spokes and it's structure of how it's built. metals will bend with the right amount of pressure applied.

[sidewayz240]

Originally Posted by jamg

you're doing it wrong. bolted in a hub and in use... you turn it left and right...

the amount of force of a person standing over it is greater than that of you turning it.

it's bent because he applied greater force by jumping on it with all his weight. and the way the steering wheel spokes are built. of course it's of cheaper quality, so it's bound to be a little damaged.

i weigh 185lbs @ 8% body fat, i guarantee i can do the same for any steering wheel that's built like that.

just look at the spokes and it's structure of how it's built. metals will bend with the right amount of pressure applied.

Then tell me, what kind of use of the wheel is he replicating by standing on it at that position? And the "bending" test he did at the end was totally useless becuase it wasn't bolted to a hub and most of his energy was focused on keeping the wheel stationary and not actually bending it.

When you test a product, you dont only test it for resistance to regular daily use, it has to be tested for when its stressed outside of its normal duty. For example in this situation, Impacts (crashes, punching, ect..), excessive force (loss of power steering, pushing car by steering wheel, using wheel to reposition yourself and so on...). Testing a product for its ability to withstand forces outside its normal use is just as important, if not more so than regular loads.

If any sort of force was applied to the top section of the wheel, it would bend like spagetti. Any sort of offset, multi-directional or irregular loading would ruin that wheel as we saw in the first video.

The wheels shit, stop trying to defend it.

[Melonburst]

Originally Posted by sidewayz240

Then tell me, what kind of use of the wheel is he replicating by standing on it at that position? And the "bending" test he did at the end was totally useless becuase it wasn't bolted to a hub and most of his energy was focused on keeping the wheel stationary and not actually bending it.

When you test a product, you dont only test it for resistance to regular daily use, it has to be tested for when its stressed outside of its normal duty. For example in this situation, Impacts (crashes, punching, ect..), excessive force (loss of power steering, pushing car by steering wheel, using wheel to reposition yourself and so on...). Testing a product for its ability to withstand forces outside its normal use is just as important, if not more so than regular loads.

If any sort of force was applied to the top section of the wheel, it would bend like spagetti. Any sort of offset, multi-directional or irregular loading would ruin that wheel as we saw in the first video.

The wheels shit, stop trying to defend it.

/Agree

I'm not really surprised at the quality of the product as much as the amount of people defending it.

[bladetech8]

Annnnnnd thats why I spent $300 on my genuine Nardi wheel. Fuck knockoffs, I do not support those cockbags..

['97 S14 SE Turbo]

Originally Posted by 280zx2by2

It is to Bell Works what that flimsy piece of tin with suede wrapped around it is to Nardi.

Originally Posted by ZilviaKid

i split my hkb hub in half a few months ago

Originally Posted by tricky_ab

Yeah the same thing happened to a good friend of mine a few years ago...

There ya go...

Originally Posted by C. Anderson

Real HKB hubs are actually pretty beefy, but all the ebay hubs come in boxes marked HKB.

Are you guys sure you have a real HKB? Real HKBs are pretty strong and pretty much the supplier for hubs in Japan. I have my HKB S14 hub for a long time without any issues, and am confident that it's a real HKB.

This is what a real HKB box looks like. Note the p/n tag.



All those imitation tries to mimic the HKB box with the same green color design and style.

and before the Works Bell fan boys get worked up, I have a Gen 1 QR from when Works Bell did not offer steering wheel hubs.