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kei1 · 10-08-2011, 01:48 PM

hey guys and girls, i have a 93 vert and i'm just wondering if anyone here has attempted to go with a removable hardtop. comments and pictures are welcome.

ILoveJDM · 10-08-2011, 02:28 PM

buy a coupe

nickkaplz · 10-08-2011, 02:52 PM

i didnt realize the tops on coupes were removable

kei1 · 10-08-2011, 03:02 PM

thx for that. really i have a coupe too. just going more for the personal touch. im in the process of tinkering and between a useless rag top that leaks and has bent arms or a removable hard top that would allow me to run on courses without a roll cage, oh and not leak, i just wanna get some feedback.

crayzwhiteboy · 10-08-2011, 03:04 PM

Wtf kid. There were only like 8000 made, who knows how many are left and you wanna Fuck on up? Trade it for a coupe and let someone have it who appreciates what they have. You want a removable hardtop???? Get a coupe and buy a sawzall don't mess up your car.

misterdumby · 10-08-2011, 03:06 PM

make one...

Copilot911 · 10-08-2011, 03:07 PM

Buy a crashed coupe and cut the roof off and put it on the vert

silver04rsx · 10-08-2011, 03:28 PM

Pretty much what the last guy said. Use your top you have now to make the mounting points for connecting the top to the A pillars. You can use the mounting points in the rear that hold the back of the rage top down. I think there are 11 bolts that are tied into the chassis. Im building a roadster, I completely removed the top and all the extra bracing put in and where the rage top frame bolts to the chassis, all that shit was cut out.

Its just a 240, all the verts I have seen are pretty trashed minus a couple. They dont make replacement parts for them and all the interior panels are hard to find especially in good shape. I say go for it. I plan on making a hard top using lexan windows and possible a fiberglass frame. I will prob start out using a top from a coupe. Dont listen to these douch bags its your car do what you please with it.

silver04rsx · 10-08-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crayzwhiteboy

Wtf kid. There were only like 8000 made, who knows how many are left and you wanna Fuck on up? Trade it for a coupe and let someone have it who appreciates what they have. You want a removable hardtop???? Get a coupe and buy a sawzall don't mess up your car.

There were fewer s14 kouki made then verts, they are not that rare. Just harder to find oem parts for. Trying to find a quarter window is nearly impossible, it took me 6 months to track one down.

yellowxhoodie · 10-08-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveJDM

buy a coupe

lold

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Originally Posted by nickkaplz

i didnt realize the tops on coupes were removable

lold even harder

kei1 · 10-08-2011, 03:52 PM

thx for the feedback guys positive and negative. when all is done i plan on still having the ragtop its just gonna be down while the hardtop is on. right now i have a little something going on. will post some pictures very soon.

crayzwhiteboy · 10-08-2011, 06:06 PM

Subscribed. Let's see what you do. My moneys against you. So prove me wrong

Starting money pool now lol

JohnnyDrfiter22 · 10-08-2011, 06:58 PM

wow @ all the negativity! Try measuring a S2k or miata hard top maybe with a lil cutting and adjusting one might be able to fit on a vert. I have actually seen a home made one using fiberglass on a miata once

!Zar! · 10-08-2011, 07:07 PM

You know a removable hardtop that is held down by four dinky clips isn't going to save anyone in a rollover situation, right? That is no safer than the soft top during an accident.

As to answer if someone made a hardtop, probably. But keep in mind that Nissan had an aftermarket company design/install the convertible portion on the coupes.

SomeoneWhoIsntMe · 10-08-2011, 07:13 PM

make a mold of the coupe roof, replicate it in fiberglass with a lexan rear window, use the factory convertible mounting points for it, then kill yourself

sr23det · 10-08-2011, 07:46 PM

i forgot who drove the car but there was a sear's f20 vert that had a one off hard top. i also want one but i dont have enough precision to make the roof to windsheild or trunk/qp cut with minimal filler. DO IT! if it fits decent i'll buy one (HINT SEIBON/CC/AIT

)

NoPistons! · 10-09-2011, 04:40 AM

Buy a miata. Nobody is going to do this type of shit for you.

Fiberglass Forums - Powered by vBulletin Or net or org. I forget. Make a mold and spend a shitload of time and money and do it yourself.

Couple tops ARE removable. Plasma cutter. Sawzall. Grinder. Pick your poison.

I toyed with some similar ideas but in the end if it was a good idea it probably already would have been done by now. It makes sense on a car like an s2k or miata. 240? Meh.... not really. Go forth and be the first. I really hate being Mr. Negativity on this one but it is what it is. Sorry dude.

S13queen · 10-09-2011, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kei1

hey guys and girls, i have a 93 vert and i'm just wondering if anyone here has attempted to go with a removable hardtop. comments and pictures are welcome.

I have a '94 Vert and I've searched about this too.. I've heard about one guy making a hardtop out of fiberglass and having it clamped down (like the miatas. It was on NICO forums (www.240sxconvertible.com) The only real problem is IF you want to make one that electronically goes down.. you have to keep in mind that the top folds down the middle which is why Nissan never put a glass window in.. it folds because the hydraulic pump for the push button top is in that area. If you want a new top just go with the Vinyl, the downfall is it doesnt last as long as the stock canvas.. but it doesnt mold down by the body where the top is installed. if there is anything else you would like to know PM me.. just give me acouple of days cause I'm deployed in Iraq right now. Also the only hardtop convertible to date for Nissan is the S15 Silvia Varietta.. that I know of.. Blame Autotech

S13queen · 10-09-2011, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by silver04rsx

There were fewer s14 kouki made then verts, they are not that rare. Just harder to find oem parts for. Trying to find a quarter window is nearly impossible, it took me 6 months to track one down.

Dont forget the JDM Verts..

kei1 · 10-09-2011, 07:25 AM

my main issue is that i dont just need the fabric and window. i need the entire assembly. the arm on the passenger side snapped, and even welding it properly didnt hold because all the other parts are bent and broken. i made some real progress last night, now its all about the finishing touches. pics in a bit.

silver04rsx · 10-09-2011, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by S13queen

I have a '94 Vert and I've searched about this too.. I've heard about one guy making a hardtop out of fiberglass and having it clamped down (like the miatas. It was on NICO forums (www.240sxconvertible.com) The only real problem is IF you want to make one that electronically goes down.. you have to keep in mind that the top folds down the middle which is why Nissan never put a glass window in.. it folds because the hydraulic pump for the push button top is in that area. If you want a new top just go with the Vinyl, the downfall is it doesnt last as long as the stock canvas.. but it doesnt mold down by the body where the top is installed. if there is anything else you would like to know PM me.. just give me acouple of days cause I'm deployed in Iraq right now. Also the only hardtop convertible to date for Nissan is the S15 Silvia Varietta.. that I know of.. Blame Autotech

Haha, no shit, where in Iraq are you? Im at camp Taji right now...

S13queen · 10-09-2011, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by silver04rsx

Haha, no shit, where in Iraq are you? Im at camp Taji right now...

Balad.. closing this biotch down!!

S13queen · 10-09-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kei1

my main issue is that i dont just need the fabric and window. i need the entire assembly. the arm on the passenger side snapped, and even welding it properly didnt hold because all the other parts are bent and broken. i made some real progress last night, now its all about the finishing touches. pics in a bit.

dude that sucks.. download a fsm get a part # and see if you can order it.. if not youll have to fabricate

420sx · 10-09-2011, 08:45 AM

if you are really good with fiberglass, i mean a pro it is possible to make a top, probably about a 120hour job. if you cant, i doubt you can afford to have one made, it would be close to 6000

jchrisw85 · 10-09-2011, 09:08 AM

I was actually there first hand when Kei1 started the hardtop project.

if you guys only saw the state of his soft top. we spent almost a year and a half looking for a replacement top and found nothing. lol you guys will never guess which car this hardtop came from

btw let me buy your takata harness. lmao at least just one.

YUMMY YUMMY!!!!!!!!!

89cpe · 10-09-2011, 09:54 AM

Lol thats amusing because i found every piece i ever needed for my vert. Bought a new canvas top from ebay. Had every bent or broken arm remade at a custom shop for like 100$ and it was as good as new literally. If you can make a hard top you can make a couple new arms. So thats a poor excuse but i think its cool that you are doing this just your reasoning is poor. Go to whatever place in california made verts and see if they have some left over parts lol. One good thing about a hard top if you actually make it so that it locks in solid is that along with all the extra brackets added for the vert to be a stiff chasis is youll have a very solid car.

silver04rsx · 10-09-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by S13queen

Balad.. closing this biotch down!!

We just closed down our section of Al Asad Air base about 3 weeks ago.

Sucks cause there was so much metal, tools, all kind of good shit just thrown away. My buddy got about 30 craftsman wrenches.

shinhed · 10-09-2011, 10:37 AM

A guy on Nico was making a proto of one. Should check there instead of even bothering to ask a intelligent question here.

That's right, for the most part, fuck Zilvia.

silver04rsx · 10-09-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 89cpe

Lol thats amusing because i found every piece i ever needed for my vert. Bought a new canvas top from ebay. Had every bent or broken arm remade at a custom shop for like 100$ and it was as good as new literally. If you can make a hard top you can make a couple new arms. So thats a poor excuse but i think its cool that you are doing this just your reasoning is poor. Go to whatever place in california made verts and see if they have some left over parts lol. One good thing about a hard top if you actually make it so that it locks in solid is that along with all the extra brackets added for the vert to be a stiff chasis is youll have a very solid car.

Company went out of business 10+ years ago...

Encore · 10-09-2011, 10:47 AM

give it a try. if you fail, so what you knew it wouldn't be easy. if you succeed and nobody likes it, so what its your car. sad you cant ask a question and not get slammed for wanting to do something out of the ordinary with YOUR CAR.

10-08-2011, 01:48 PM	#1
kei1 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: new jersey Posts: 111 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	S13 Vert removable hard top hey guys and girls, i have a 93 vert and i'm just wondering if anyone here has attempted to go with a removable hardtop. comments and pictures are welcome.

10-08-2011, 02:28 PM	#2
ILoveJDM Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SK Canada! Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	buy a coupe __________________ DODOlogic.ca

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!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	You know a removable hardtop that is held down by four dinky clips isn't going to save anyone in a rollover situation, right? That is no safer than the soft top during an accident. As to answer if someone made a hardtop, probably. But keep in mind that Nissan had an aftermarket company design/install the convertible portion on the coupes. __________________

10-09-2011, 04:40 AM	#17
NoPistons! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Carolina Posts: 548 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Buy a miata. Nobody is going to do this type of shit for you. Fiberglass Forums - Powered by vBulletin Or net or org. I forget. Make a mold and spend a shitload of time and money and do it yourself. Couple tops ARE removable. Plasma cutter. Sawzall. Grinder. Pick your poison. I toyed with some similar ideas but in the end if it was a good idea it probably already would have been done by now. It makes sense on a car like an s2k or miata. 240? Meh.... not really. Go forth and be the first. I really hate being Mr. Negativity on this one but it is what it is. Sorry dude. __________________ Just another broke ass drifter

10-09-2011, 08:45 AM	#24
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 42 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you are really good with fiberglass, i mean a pro it is possible to make a top, probably about a 120hour job. if you cant, i doubt you can afford to have one made, it would be close to 6000 __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

10-08-2011, 02:52 PM	#3
nickkaplz Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Alabama Age: 31 Posts: 101 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i didnt realize the tops on coupes were removable

10-08-2011, 03:02 PM	#4
kei1 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: new jersey Posts: 111 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	thx for that. really i have a coupe too. just going more for the personal touch. im in the process of tinkering and between a useless rag top that leaks and has bent arms or a removable hard top that would allow me to run on courses without a roll cage, oh and not leak, i just wanna get some feedback.

10-08-2011, 03:04 PM	#5
crayzwhiteboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: miami Age: 35 Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wtf kid. There were only like 8000 made, who knows how many are left and you wanna Fuck on up? Trade it for a coupe and let someone have it who appreciates what they have. You want a removable hardtop???? Get a coupe and buy a sawzall don't mess up your car.

10-08-2011, 03:06 PM	#6
misterdumby Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: memphis Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	make one...

10-08-2011, 03:07 PM	#7
Copilot911 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 118 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Buy a crashed coupe and cut the roof off and put it on the vert

10-08-2011, 03:28 PM	#8
silver04rsx Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 36 Posts: 100 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Pretty much what the last guy said. Use your top you have now to make the mounting points for connecting the top to the A pillars. You can use the mounting points in the rear that hold the back of the rage top down. I think there are 11 bolts that are tied into the chassis. Im building a roadster, I completely removed the top and all the extra bracing put in and where the rage top frame bolts to the chassis, all that shit was cut out. Its just a 240, all the verts I have seen are pretty trashed minus a couple. They dont make replacement parts for them and all the interior panels are hard to find especially in good shape. I say go for it. I plan on making a hard top using lexan windows and possible a fiberglass frame. I will prob start out using a top from a coupe. Dont listen to these douch bags its your car do what you please with it.

10-08-2011, 03:52 PM	#11
kei1 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: new jersey Posts: 111 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	thx for the feedback guys positive and negative. when all is done i plan on still having the ragtop its just gonna be down while the hardtop is on. right now i have a little something going on. will post some pictures very soon.

10-08-2011, 06:06 PM	#12
crayzwhiteboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: miami Age: 35 Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Subscribed. Let's see what you do. My moneys against you. So prove me wrong Starting money pool now lol

10-08-2011, 06:58 PM	#13
JohnnyDrfiter22 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow @ all the negativity! Try measuring a S2k or miata hard top maybe with a lil cutting and adjusting one might be able to fit on a vert. I have actually seen a home made one using fiberglass on a miata once

10-08-2011, 07:13 PM	#15
SomeoneWhoIsntMe Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Waterford, MI Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	make a mold of the coupe roof, replicate it in fiberglass with a lexan rear window, use the factory convertible mounting points for it, then kill yourself

10-08-2011, 07:46 PM	#16
sr23det Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: norcal Age: 41 Posts: 182 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i forgot who drove the car but there was a sear's f20 vert that had a one off hard top. i also want one but i dont have enough precision to make the roof to windsheild or trunk/qp cut with minimal filler. DO IT! if it fits decent i'll buy one (HINT SEIBON/CC/AIT )

10-09-2011, 07:25 AM	#20
kei1 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: new jersey Posts: 111 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	my main issue is that i dont just need the fabric and window. i need the entire assembly. the arm on the passenger side snapped, and even welding it properly didnt hold because all the other parts are bent and broken. i made some real progress last night, now its all about the finishing touches. pics in a bit.

10-09-2011, 09:08 AM	#25
jchrisw85 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Clifton, NJ Age: 39 Posts: 54 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was actually there first hand when Kei1 started the hardtop project. if you guys only saw the state of his soft top. we spent almost a year and a half looking for a replacement top and found nothing. lol you guys will never guess which car this hardtop came from btw let me buy your takata harness. lmao at least just one. YUMMY YUMMY!!!!!!!!!

10-09-2011, 09:54 AM	#26
89cpe Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: PA Posts: 121 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Lol thats amusing because i found every piece i ever needed for my vert. Bought a new canvas top from ebay. Had every bent or broken arm remade at a custom shop for like 100$ and it was as good as new literally. If you can make a hard top you can make a couple new arms. So thats a poor excuse but i think its cool that you are doing this just your reasoning is poor. Go to whatever place in california made verts and see if they have some left over parts lol. One good thing about a hard top if you actually make it so that it locks in solid is that along with all the extra brackets added for the vert to be a stiff chasis is youll have a very solid car.

10-09-2011, 10:37 AM	#28
shinhed Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Austria Posts: 955 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	A guy on Nico was making a proto of one. Should check there instead of even bothering to ask a intelligent question here. That's right, for the most part, fuck Zilvia.

10-09-2011, 10:47 AM	#30
Encore Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2011 Location: Somewhere now, eventualy LV Age: 36 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	give it a try. if you fail, so what you knew it wouldn't be easy. if you succeed and nobody likes it, so what its your car. sad you cant ask a question and not get slammed for wanting to do something out of the ordinary with YOUR CAR.