17" ADR Sokudo's..

[yudalicious]

riight, going from 15x6 +40 to 17x7.5 +40 isn't an upgrade in width...
speaking from a totally performance stand point, the advantages you get w/ lower offsets and wider wheels (up to a point) is minimal COMPARED to what you can do with the $ you saved. (I will not get into looks because I myself am saving up for gramlights in the right offset but I totaly understand why some ppl aren't willing)

IE: spend $500 a set on rotas vs. spend $1000 on a set of volks... some ppl would rather spend that $500 saved to a set of nice shocks or cams or ECU or whatever, which would make more difference performance wise than the $1000 rims.

No one is asking to sell your Volks or Advans and get rotas, so when they ask for your opinoin, can't you just voice your opinion (strongly if you want), without being an unhelpful jackass.

[Heartwork]

Originally Posted by yudalicious

IE: spend $500 a set on rotas vs. spend $1000 on a set of volks... some ppl would rather spend that $500 saved to a set of nice shocks or cams or ECU or whatever, which would make more difference performance wise than the $1000 rims.

true you can save $500 from buying a set of Rotas than buying Volks...
buuuuuuuut, i'd rather spend the extra $500 for Volks because of LOTS MORE SIZE SELECTION, quality made wheels....and about 5,000 more sizes than Rota's size selections....

"Proper offset is the spice of life." (Sileightymania)

riight, going from 15x6 +40 to 17x7.5 +40 isn't an upgrade in width...
speaking from a totally performance stand point, the advantages you get w/ lower offsets and wider wheels (up to a point) is minimal COMPARED to what you can do with the $ you saved. (I will not get into looks because I myself am saving up for gramlights in the right offset but I totaly understand why some ppl aren't willing)

Of course the advantages are Minimal from going 15x6 +40 to 17x7.5+40......
the wheel hub mounting surface of the wheel is sitting in the SAME PLACE AS STOCK, buuut you gain what, a measely .75" track width each way? MINIMAL

15x6 +40 ====> 17x9 +10, wheel is offsetted 30mm closer to fender AND gains 2" track width each way... Price difference justifies wider wheel/offset selection

more wheel size selections>the World

[old_s13]

yudalicious> riight, going from 15x6 +40 to 17x7.5 +40 isn't an upgrade in width...speaking from a totally performance stand point, the advantages you get w/ lower offsets and wider wheels (up to a point) is minimal COMPARED to what you can do with the $ you saved.

Oh really? Since when did this sport become "low buck = performance" last I checked, that doesnt always work. There is a balance, certain things are worth the money and others are not. How do you differentiate? YOU USE YOUR MIND, TIME, and RESEARCH.

When you put money aside and look at the part in question for what it IS, rather than how much it COSTS -- you start to see its value. So regardless of what people write on here.. the truth of the matter is you have to make your own decisions. If you just go by what people say, it will show because your car will show it. Its amazing how the nicest cars I've ever seen are owned by people who put fourth the hard work, time, money, and unending committment to pursue their love and passion for the sport (not for the trend OR for others).


IE: spend $500 a set on rotas vs. spend $1000 on a set of volks... some ppl would rather spend that $500 saved to a set of nice shocks or cams or ECU or whatever, which would make more difference performance wise than the $1000 rims.

How do you know? How do you know that the Rota wheels are good quality and durable enough to be BETTER than the Volks? I am not taking sides, I am simply asking. Above you write how all rims can withstand the same amount of abuse, I think thats BS.. I know plenty of people who've bought cheap rims and in the long run, have had nothing more than bent wheels. I myself have had knockoff wheels in the past, they didnt bend.. but they were heavier than shit. What about unsprung weight? Doesnt that make a difference when it comes to performance? I think so, my shocks felt blown when I ran 21lb 16x7.5" knockoffs.

Then, I eventually bought a set of 16x8 +50 wheels.. are they from a FWD car? To answer the question, no they arent.. they are off of the FD RX7. While yes, typically FWD cars have higher offsets.. cars like the Mazda RX7 come stock with these wide wheels AND have plenty of room in the fenders for even wider rims -- hence the reason why the RX7 is such a kickass car. So, it really comes down to whether or not you know your shit. I didnt buy the FD wheels because they were +50, I bought them because they were 16x8, inexpensive, easy to attain, and 14-15lbs EACH. Unsprung weight is where its at.


No one is asking to sell your Volks or Advans and get rotas, so when they ask for your opinoin, can't you just voice your opinion (strongly if you want), without being an unhelpful jackass.

This is a forum, its a place where people speak their minds and if you are lucky enough and carefree enough -- you make friends. Some people are nice and will give out advice, some people are mean and will give out advice.. the bottom line is, this isnt Burger King where you "have it your way" -- you post and just be courteous.. if people are snappy, deal with it.. but dont get all pissy when some people are just rough around the edges.. its probably because we've been down your route before and now after all these years, headache, trial, error, and money.. are where we are. Most people when they are young cant afford the good shit, fine.. thats great. But thats not to say that there isnt a big difference with the expensive shit, because thats not true. You DO get what you PAY for. If you think performance comes cheap, you had better get your head examined.

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