17" ADR Sokudo's..

[Yoshi]

Originally Posted by SilviaBoston

Did you not see what i said? I said they only difference is the name on the rims...i was saying that knock offs are the same structurally or near the same as the real things. So what your paying extra most of the time is the name. Like yudalicious said it is the same off set as the stock rims...you know what, forget it. no use in trying to change anyones mind...but i just have to say this one thing and i'm talking about pricing here, when you buy a name brand product and then buy a knock off they are almost if not the same right? now apply that to rims...and you'll see that sometimes your just paying extra for the name on the rim and not the rim its self.

Riiiight!
Cuz FORGED Work SZRs are the same as CAST ACE Sypders!

[AE86Deacon]

Originally Posted by Heartwork

NOPE.
the price you are paying for ADR's are that they dont have a wide range of selections in sizes and cheaply made wheels....as opposed to something like Works, SSR's, Volks, Advans you get LOTS and LOTS of size selection (widths, offsets, color, bolt pattern), sometimes even lets you DO YOUR OWN CUSTOM SIZING, durability/strenght, excellent forging/casting process, and yes, we do pay a lil bit for name....
if i was shelling out money, why would i waste my time with wheels that have the SAME offset/width as stock? my track width isnt being improved, so why bother? someone's not doing their homework....

oh boy oh boy i wish Works would be at a cheap price, but i would only be limited to 18x7.5 +42et

This is why we are Gorgeous... and other's are not.

[yudalicious]

riight, going from 15x6 +40 to 17x7.5 +40 isn't an upgrade in width...
speaking from a totally performance stand point, the advantages you get w/ lower offsets and wider wheels (up to a point) is minimal COMPARED to what you can do with the $ you saved. (I will not get into looks because I myself am saving up for gramlights in the right offset but I totaly understand why some ppl aren't willing)

IE: spend $500 a set on rotas vs. spend $1000 on a set of volks... some ppl would rather spend that $500 saved to a set of nice shocks or cams or ECU or whatever, which would make more difference performance wise than the $1000 rims.

No one is asking to sell your Volks or Advans and get rotas, so when they ask for your opinoin, can't you just voice your opinion (strongly if you want), without being an unhelpful jackass.

[Heartwork]

Originally Posted by yudalicious

IE: spend $500 a set on rotas vs. spend $1000 on a set of volks... some ppl would rather spend that $500 saved to a set of nice shocks or cams or ECU or whatever, which would make more difference performance wise than the $1000 rims.

true you can save $500 from buying a set of Rotas than buying Volks...
buuuuuuuut, i'd rather spend the extra $500 for Volks because of LOTS MORE SIZE SELECTION, quality made wheels....and about 5,000 more sizes than Rota's size selections....

"Proper offset is the spice of life." (Sileightymania)

riight, going from 15x6 +40 to 17x7.5 +40 isn't an upgrade in width...
speaking from a totally performance stand point, the advantages you get w/ lower offsets and wider wheels (up to a point) is minimal COMPARED to what you can do with the $ you saved. (I will not get into looks because I myself am saving up for gramlights in the right offset but I totaly understand why some ppl aren't willing)

Of course the advantages are Minimal from going 15x6 +40 to 17x7.5+40......
the wheel hub mounting surface of the wheel is sitting in the SAME PLACE AS STOCK, buuut you gain what, a measely .75" track width each way? MINIMAL

15x6 +40 ====> 17x9 +10, wheel is offsetted 30mm closer to fender AND gains 2" track width each way... Price difference justifies wider wheel/offset selection

more wheel size selections>the World

[nightwalker]

let's not forget that using those wheels (ADR) you forfeit the chance of ever being able to own a set of nice coilovers. Unless you get a 30mm bolt on spacer, which in turn is more weight. I don't know why people don't understand...

Originally Posted by Nightwalker

Do it once, do it right, do it wrong, do it twice, pay the price

[Salty_X]

Originally Posted by Johny5

+35 offset on an under 9" wheel on an s14 chassis? denied.

they make a staggered setup for us in 17x8 front 17x9 rear which i had on order until i wrecked D: it was gonna cost me under $1k so maybe you could look into that as an option? (i'm sorry, thats the fn01rc i'm speaking of)

I think you missed the point I was trying to make.. I didn't say that they would meet our standards or flushness (believe me, I completely agree with what you said), but taking her budget into consideration, and the fact that her car is 4-lug, those are some of the widest, least-expensive wheels you can get brand new. That's all.


Rabble, rabble... pizza cutter, rabble, battleship, rabble...

[old_s13]

yudalicious> riight, going from 15x6 +40 to 17x7.5 +40 isn't an upgrade in width...speaking from a totally performance stand point, the advantages you get w/ lower offsets and wider wheels (up to a point) is minimal COMPARED to what you can do with the $ you saved.

Oh really? Since when did this sport become "low buck = performance" last I checked, that doesnt always work. There is a balance, certain things are worth the money and others are not. How do you differentiate? YOU USE YOUR MIND, TIME, and RESEARCH.

When you put money aside and look at the part in question for what it IS, rather than how much it COSTS -- you start to see its value. So regardless of what people write on here.. the truth of the matter is you have to make your own decisions. If you just go by what people say, it will show because your car will show it. Its amazing how the nicest cars I've ever seen are owned by people who put fourth the hard work, time, money, and unending committment to pursue their love and passion for the sport (not for the trend OR for others).


IE: spend $500 a set on rotas vs. spend $1000 on a set of volks... some ppl would rather spend that $500 saved to a set of nice shocks or cams or ECU or whatever, which would make more difference performance wise than the $1000 rims.

How do you know? How do you know that the Rota wheels are good quality and durable enough to be BETTER than the Volks? I am not taking sides, I am simply asking. Above you write how all rims can withstand the same amount of abuse, I think thats BS.. I know plenty of people who've bought cheap rims and in the long run, have had nothing more than bent wheels. I myself have had knockoff wheels in the past, they didnt bend.. but they were heavier than shit. What about unsprung weight? Doesnt that make a difference when it comes to performance? I think so, my shocks felt blown when I ran 21lb 16x7.5" knockoffs.

Then, I eventually bought a set of 16x8 +50 wheels.. are they from a FWD car? To answer the question, no they arent.. they are off of the FD RX7. While yes, typically FWD cars have higher offsets.. cars like the Mazda RX7 come stock with these wide wheels AND have plenty of room in the fenders for even wider rims -- hence the reason why the RX7 is such a kickass car. So, it really comes down to whether or not you know your shit. I didnt buy the FD wheels because they were +50, I bought them because they were 16x8, inexpensive, easy to attain, and 14-15lbs EACH. Unsprung weight is where its at.


No one is asking to sell your Volks or Advans and get rotas, so when they ask for your opinoin, can't you just voice your opinion (strongly if you want), without being an unhelpful jackass.

This is a forum, its a place where people speak their minds and if you are lucky enough and carefree enough -- you make friends. Some people are nice and will give out advice, some people are mean and will give out advice.. the bottom line is, this isnt Burger King where you "have it your way" -- you post and just be courteous.. if people are snappy, deal with it.. but dont get all pissy when some people are just rough around the edges.. its probably because we've been down your route before and now after all these years, headache, trial, error, and money.. are where we are. Most people when they are young cant afford the good shit, fine.. thats great. But thats not to say that there isnt a big difference with the expensive shit, because thats not true. You DO get what you PAY for. If you think performance comes cheap, you had better get your head examined.

- Mike / ClearCorners.Com

[Jessi]

Ok, I appreciate everyones attempt at giving me some advice on these ADRs. I really didn't want this to turn into a big argument. So please, let's all just drop it. If you don't agree with what someone said, ignore it and state your own opinion.

And by the way, I'm a girl. Not a guy. Please don't get that all mixed up. I really do appreciate everyones opinions. I'm still going to be looking at different wheels. Thanks to everyone that gave me some suggestions on other wheels!

[old_s13]

uh oh.. you just blew your cover! haha

drum roll

let all the woman-less men all of a sudden turn nice and go out of their way to help you...

hehe welcome to the forum.. or shall i say, an industry thats just over-dominated by men.

- Mike

[yudalicious]

old S13:
you completely missed my point:

I myself am saving up for gramlights in the right offset, I just did not like how SO MANY ppl flame the poster without giving sound advice. give your opinion and let it be, no need to say somn stupid that doesn't help and end up looking like a jackass. Say somn helpful like:

the guy who gave links to used wheels on ebay
suggestions for wheels that aren't back breaking expensive

NOT

take your pizza cutter wheels and go get a honda

firstt of all, it wasn't me that said all rims had the same durability, it was someone else.


If you had actually READ my posts, you would've read that I even suggested FN01RCs and gramlights. I am not making it a FWD offset vs. RWD offset war, just voicing my only problem with so many ppl just blindly flaming without being any help. And this isn't not the FIRST (and all of you guys know it) poster getting flamed because he considered buying fwd offset wheels. Really guy,s how hard is it to give advice and opinion w/o being a jackass.

[old_s13]

bah i dont care to read.. im fuckin old-school.

do your research and learn your shit, then buy your wheels...

again, welcome to zilvia..

[DuffMan]

It depends why you are buying the wheels.

If you are buying for looks, then you have to ask yourself who are you trying to look good to.

If you are trying to look good to yourself, buy what you want.

If you are trying to look good to other people on this board, and similar entusiasts, dont get honda offset wheels.

If you are trying to look good to the general population, nobody cares much about +40 offset or whatever.

If you are buying for performance and the rest of your car is relatively stock 7.5 inch width is fine. But if you plan to upgrade the rest of your car and make a lot of power then maybe you should wait and do wheels last.

Upgrading to some cheap rims isnt always bad. It will give you the option to run some better wider tires. 15mm of track is not something you will notice. Weight is a little more important so I would look into that, and see if there are some lighter alternatives that cost about the same.

Lets face it, the 4 lug 240sx is one of the crappiest cars in the world to shop for wheels for. We dont have a huge selection of aftermarket wheels cheaply available. We dont have good used OEM upgrades. This means you are going to really have to think about how upgrading wheels fits in to your whole plan for upgrading the car. There is no right answer that applies to everyone.

[Johny5]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

We dont have a huge selection of aftermarket wheels cheaply available. We dont have good used OEM upgrades.

oh but we do. z32 fi models 8" wide? maybe need spacers to run coilovers but who knows. the whole beauty of owning a 240sx is that (if you don't care what you're wheels look like) you can fit domestic wheeeeeeeeelssss. cobra rims? yes please. mustang gt rims? yes please. v6 stang wheels 15x7 +24 offset (easy for me to break loose being bone stock ka) ummmm yes please! our options are good if you're not too picky.

[nightwalker]

...that and the fact that you can almost immediately tell if a 240 owner knows what he/she is doing, or jumping the bandwagon, trying to "look like a drift car". Wheel offset is a good clue.

[Xren17]

retards.....................

[yudalicious]

yes.... I have to admit... the right offset = WAY better looks. That's why I'm saving for some gramlights (hopefully) in +33... or I'll have to settle for FN01RCs like every1 and their grandmothers.... jk
Glad to see ppl taking my ranting w/ good humor ;]

[old_s13]

or I'll have to settle for FN01RCs like every1 and their grandmothers.... jk

so i take it CHEAP is also supposed to buy you good quality AND rare wheels too, riiiiiiight..

haha

[russian]

Originally Posted by Johny5

oh but we do. z32 fi models 8" wide? maybe need spacers to run coilovers but who knows. the whole beauty of owning a 240sx is that (if you don't care what you're wheels look like) you can fit domestic wheeeeeeeeelssss. cobra rims? yes please. mustang gt rims? yes please. v6 stang wheels 15x7 +24 offset (easy for me to break loose being bone stock ka) ummmm yes please! our options are good if you're not too picky.

DUDE. he was talking about 4lug base 240sx. it is 4 lug. z32 lugs are 5.

[Johny5]

i'm sorry i don't deal with those with lesser lugs much often

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by russian

DUDE. he was talking about 4lug base 240sx. it is 4 lug. z32 lugs are 5.

Exactly. Not to mention they dont clear coilovers in front for shit.

[Jessi]

Stop fighting! God you guys. Nevermind, I'll go ask other people that won't start a damn argument about it.

[zero.counter]

Originally Posted by Jessi

Stop fighting! God you guys. Nevermind, I'll go ask other people that won't start a damn argument about it.

Do you have a picture of yourself?

[old_s13]

Originally Posted by Jessi

Stop fighting! God you guys. Nevermind, I'll go ask other people that won't start a damn argument about it.

like... oh my god... didnt know girls from wisconsin talk with the valley slang! haha

[TwoFourO]

I HAVE those wheels on my car right now in gunmetal and they look pretty good. Everyone compliments them. UNFORTUNATELY, I'm personally unhappy with them because I purchased them two years ago before I really knew much about the car. The offset is bad on ADR wheels and the wheels do tend to look a bit 'sunken' in in the back of the car. Nothing a wheel spacer can't fix. So if you're looking for feedback from someone who actually HAS the wheels on the car and knows what they're talking about, take it from me, save your money, buy the right wheels the first time or don't buy them at all. The ADR wheels have some cool designs/layouts which is okay if that's all you're going for, but they also have terrible offsets and weigh a lot. Just my two cents...hope that helps.

[russian]

Originally Posted by TwoFourO

I HAVE those wheels on my car right now in gunmetal and they look pretty good. Everyone compliments them. UNFORTUNATELY, I'm personally unhappy with them because I purchased them two years ago before I really knew much about the car. The offset is bad on ADR wheels and the wheels do tend to look a bit 'sunken' in in the back of the car. Nothing a wheel spacer can't fix. So if you're looking for feedback from someone who actually HAS the wheels on the car and knows what they're talking about, take it from me, save your money, buy the right wheels the first time or don't buy them at all. The ADR wheels have some cool designs/layouts which is okay if that's all you're going for, but they also have terrible offsets and weigh a lot. Just my two cents...hope that helps.

if you listen to any of us, listen to this person. quality advice.

[Hybrid240ZXT]

Well, I dont know about anyone else, but if it was my 240, I would forget about wheels, sell the body kit and put that money into some minor engine mods and some suspention. But then again, I go for whats better for performance, not looks. And you dont have the performance yet to need wider wheels.

[nightwalker]

Originally Posted by zero.counter

Do you have a picture of yourself?

hehehehehe