more camber=more rub?

[articdragon192]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

you are running a 265 on the front?

I can't tell on your ride height, shadows, the minimum amount of change in the angle and compression on the tire may not change much for you. I can tell however that you now have more room inbetween your fender and tire. As far as ride height, you may have increased height because of the roundness of your tire. as in, a 35 has rounded edges rather than square. the tire may get taller towards the center. These are all very tiny key points that we tend to miss. Also, don't forget that most race tires are softer on the inside of the tire and hard on the outside for cornering (sidewall flex). don't forget tire wear plays a part too in take off some of that ride height while previously cambered.

265/35 front and rear. I took camber out of the REAR. Focus on the rear of the car. In the front I actually added camber, hence why it is lower as well. I had to drop the rear 3/4" to get it back to the ride height it was at before.
Also, rounded edges won't contribute to nearly a full inch of ride height difference.

Originally Posted by pacotaco345

Sorry if this comment makes me seem like an asshole but I can't see a difference in the two pictures. maybe just a lil less tucking when the camber is pulled out of it, which I mentioned before.

It raised the car. Fender to ground distance is higher. By almost an inch. I had to get helper springs for my coilovers to I could lower my car back to down to it's desired ride height, since I had to droop the spring to go lower.

From my personal experience, adding camber has lowered my car, and taking camber out has raised it. No diagram or math explained over the internet will refute my personal experiences with camber change.

[pacotaco345]

Originally Posted by !Zar!

Go outside.

Measure your camber and ride hight.

Now turn your wheel to lock.

Now measure your camber and ride hight.

1. If I understand you correctly you're helping my argument, adding camber raises the car, positive or negative. And I would go do this now if my car wasn't 1300 miles away.
2. I have measured the distance of my crossmember and rear subframe, removed camber, then measured again. The car was lower after I took the camber out.

Originally Posted by articdragon192

265/35 front and rear. I took camber out of the REAR. Focus on the rear of the car. In the front I actually added camber, hence why it is lower as well. I had to drop the rear 3/4" to get it back to the ride height it was at before.
Also, rounded edges won't contribute to nearly a full inch of ride height difference.



It raised the car. Fender to ground distance is higher. By almost an inch. I had to get helper springs for my coilovers to I could lower my car back to down to it's desired ride height, since I had to droop the spring to go lower.

From my personal experience, adding camber has lowered my car, and taking camber out has raised it. No diagram or math explained over the internet will refute my personal experiences with camber change.

First of all, thank you for not being an ass.. Second, I can't explain how pulling camber out of your car would make it rise, I'm not educated on the front suspension of a z32.. Is it different? If it is that could be the reason. What I know is that I have pulled camber out of my car, made measurements relative to the subframe and crossmember, and done the math, and after doing all this I have come upon the conclusion that adding camber raises the car.

[articdragon192]

Originally Posted by pacotaco345

First of all, thank you for not being an ass.. Second, I can't explain how pulling camber out of your car would make it rise, I'm not educated on the front suspension of a z32.. Is it different? If it is that could be the reason. What I know is that I have pulled camber out of my car, made measurements relative to the subframe and crossmember, and done the math, and after doing all this I have come upon the conclusion that adding camber raises the car.

I was mostly pointing out the REAR of my Z32, which is nearly identical so that of an S-chassis and R-chassis.
The front is a miltilink set up, very similar to the rear suspension as well. So the front and rear act very similarly. And each time I've removed camber, that side has raised itself, and each time I've added camber, it lowers itself.

[!Zar!]

Originally Posted by pacotaco345

1. If I understand you correctly you're helping my argument, adding camber raises the car, positive or negative. And I would go do this now if my car wasn't 1300 miles away.
2. I have measured the distance of my crossmember and rear subframe, removed camber, then measured again. The car was lower after I took the camber out.

You're right, I agree with you.

I am positive my car got higher after going from -5 to -1 in rear.