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Bbandit · 05-07-2004, 03:55 PM

for the past 6 months...
I've replaced my rubber clutch line twice because they ripped apart both times.
and then I got myself an SS clutch line.
Since i've put in my SS clutch line.. I've blown my slave cylinder 3 times for the last 6 months! :hammer: including today!
yes... my slave cylinder blew again today!!!
but then again, i bought the slave cylinders from either advance autoparts and o reilly's. the cheap ones...

right now.. im using TRU-TORQUE slave cylinder and im going to replace it with the same brand...
but not for long..
im thinking about just getting one of those KNEEZMOE slave cylinder so i wont have to deal with this again...Do you guys know any other good brand slave cylinder?

Take your time since right now i gotta fix my car which by the way I left it in some chinese restaurant's parking lot..

gmckey · 05-07-2004, 03:58 PM

lol Yuda, you got some bad luck there... your manly stomping powah is blowing up your car!

get teh Nismo and be done with it.

Zemus · 05-07-2004, 03:58 PM

Yea. Ive noticed with SS lines you blow em alot, thats why Im scared to put mine in, seeing as ive gone thought 2 of them.

Bbandit · 05-07-2004, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmckey

lol Yuda, you got some bad luck there... your manly stomping powah is blowing up your car!

get teh Nismo and be done with it.

yea maybe I abused the clutch too much... lol!!! damn drift events...
the new slave cylinder is in.. but Im pretty sure it will go out again in the next 2 or 3 months...
I gotta find myself a better slave cyl before then...

All of this started whenever put my SS line + spec stage 3 clutch in about 6 months ago... and I bypass my SS line to run straight from the metal line to the slave cyl too..

Dousan_PG · 05-07-2004, 05:47 PM

ive only been thru 2 slaves in the past 2 years.
i have ss line too and no issues.

Bbandit · 05-07-2004, 08:19 PM

thats not bad at all.. 1 slave for a year.. sounds about right...
but 3 in 6 months.. its just redicolous.. and it seems like im the only one who has this problem between my 240sx buddies here in town...

*fliprayzin240sx* · 05-07-2004, 08:19 PM

heres my Question seeing that all you guys have S13s...did you guys take the damper box off? Im bout to run a SS line on my S14 connected to a nismo slave...ACT extreme 6 puck unsprung. Debating if i should disconnect the damper...any opinion on this? I havent seen or heard a whole lot of S14 guys bypassing it, mostly S13 guys.

mbmbmb23 · 05-07-2004, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bbandit

for the past 6 months...
I've replaced my rubber clutch line twice because they ripped apart both times.
and then I got myself an SS clutch line.
Since i've put in my SS clutch line.. I've blown my slave cylinder 3 times for the last 6 months! :hammer: including today!
yes... my slave cylinder blew again today!!!
but then again, i bought the slave cylinders from either advance autoparts and o reilly's. the cheap ones...

right now.. im using TRU-TORQUE slave cylinder and im going to replace it with the same brand...
but not for long..
im thinking about just getting one of those KNEEZMOE slave cylinder so i wont have to deal with this again...Do you guys know any other good brand slave cylinder?

Take your time since right now i gotta fix my car which by the way I left it in some chinese restaurant's parking lot..

Where is it blowing at?? .....near the metal nipple head or around the side seal?? If its blowing around the sides then get a hose clamp and see if that helps it keep the seal.

-m

old_s13 · 05-07-2004, 08:29 PM

i bought mine new from nissan and never had any problems with it -- running SS line directly, no problems what-so-evar.

stop buying cheap shit.

Bbandit · 05-07-2004, 09:17 PM

dont worry.. i wont buy cheap shit anymore.. i learned my lesson

it leaks so bad from the piston.. the cylinder wall had a lot of dark deposits
its leaking so bad its not actually leaking... its pouring...

fliprayzin: yea i ditched the damper box.. i bypassed mine.. its actually a lil bit more responsive and a lot easier to bleed..

*fliprayzin240sx* · 05-07-2004, 09:36 PM

i know itll be alot easier to bleed...the only thing worried bout is how much more stiffer itll be...im already running ACT extreme 6 puck UNSPRUNG!!!

*HaLo* · 05-07-2004, 09:54 PM

Funny you mention it...

I'm at 2 slaves and 1 master in the same year.. with a SS line..

Bbandit · 05-07-2004, 09:55 PM

a friend of mine is running ACT 6 puck unsprung too in his SR.. and he also dicthed the damper box...
his clutch is not that stiff... my 6 puck feels a bit more stiffer than his actually.. but still drivable.. i like it stiff

yea i replaced my master too 3 months ago... and im kinda skeptical about this cuz i bought the "cheap" master cyl... lol

old_s13 · 05-07-2004, 10:00 PM

just buy nissan from now on and you'll be fine.

if you ever get around to pulling shit apart of feel like getting fancy, check out the nismo products.. i dont think they are that pricey (wholesale atleast).

be sure to maintain your fluids, i am sure that helps longevity.

andrave · 05-07-2004, 10:54 PM

one slave, went when I replaced the clutch and pressure plate. no problems other than that though.

*sykikchimp* · 05-08-2004, 07:44 AM

never had a problem either, ss clutch line, no damper box. stock clutch, and no drifting. I wouldn't doubt it if my car still had the factory original slave cylinder.

old_s13 · 05-08-2004, 11:42 AM

these devices are nothing mysterious, they are just hydrolic controlled pistons w/ rubber seal and dust boot.. big stink. if you buy cheap shit or use used parts, the seals are obviously old and will have problems.

When I had to buy my new clutch MC I spent about 100 wholesale or so. I compared the diff between the cheapie 50-60 dollar version with the one I bought, and it was SO obvious when you tinkered with them. The cheapie used REALLY shit quality dust boot and seals, you felt how UNSMOOTH the piston travel was.. it was crap. If you pop open the resevoir you could see the rough casting. For those of you wondering, rough casting is NOT good for bushings.. it eventually will eat away at the bushing and cause failure. The better quality one was polished.

I ended up having to fully take apart my clutch MC because I (haha) used the JDM one (i converted from auto to manual and in the process used parts off of a clip).. the size of the MC's are similar but the JDM vs USDM was a bit different, so I just swapped internals. The seal is the only part thats important.

Same goes for the slave cylinder. Although, the NISMO one has minor differences which give the pedal an easier feel (from what i've read) .. so.. while the design may vary the concepts are all the same.

Rennen · 05-08-2004, 12:36 PM

My OEM slave cylinder gave out earlier this year at 130k. It had a disagreement with a tight 1st gear section of an autocross course

The clutch fluid was disgusting when I changed it, looked more like mercury than brake fluid, it had most likely been in there for the whole 130k miles.

-Matt

andrave · 05-08-2004, 03:40 PM

you can rebuild your stock slave cyl too, with a kit from autozone for like 3 bucks.

RedlineRacer · 05-08-2004, 04:56 PM

Speaking of the slave cylinder. Does anyone else have problems with that damn bleed valve? Mine is so damn stripped. I have the hardest time keeping a wrench on there. Now the only thing I can use are vise-grips. I think I need to buy a new one.

05-07-2004, 03:55 PM	#1
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 43 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how many times have you blown your slave cylinder? for the past 6 months... I've replaced my rubber clutch line twice because they ripped apart both times. and then I got myself an SS clutch line. Since i've put in my SS clutch line.. I've blown my slave cylinder 3 times for the last 6 months! :hammer: including today! yes... my slave cylinder blew again today!!! but then again, i bought the slave cylinders from either advance autoparts and o reilly's. the cheap ones... right now.. im using TRU-TORQUE slave cylinder and im going to replace it with the same brand... but not for long.. im thinking about just getting one of those KNEEZMOE slave cylinder so i wont have to deal with this again...Do you guys know any other good brand slave cylinder? Take your time since right now i gotta fix my car which by the way I left it in some chinese restaurant's parking lot.. __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

05-07-2004, 03:58 PM	#3
Zemus Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minneapols Age: 40 Posts: 2,268 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Zemus Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yea. Ive noticed with SS lines you blow em alot, thats why Im scared to put mine in, seeing as ive gone thought 2 of them. __________________ \|Ziptied.com\|Hybrid Z\|D-Town Forum\|Clubfr.net\|

05-07-2004, 05:47 PM	#5
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	ive only been thru 2 slaves in the past 2 years. i have ss line too and no issues. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

05-07-2004, 08:19 PM	#6
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 43 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats not bad at all.. 1 slave for a year.. sounds about right... but 3 in 6 months.. its just redicolous.. and it seems like im the only one who has this problem between my 240sx buddies here in town... __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

05-07-2004, 08:19 PM	#7
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	heres my Question seeing that all you guys have S13s...did you guys take the damper box off? Im bout to run a SS line on my S14 connected to a nismo slave...ACT extreme 6 puck unsprung. Debating if i should disconnect the damper...any opinion on this? I havent seen or heard a whole lot of S14 guys bypassing it, mostly S13 guys. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

05-07-2004, 03:58 PM	#2
gmckey Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 301 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol Yuda, you got some bad luck there... your manly stomping powah is blowing up your car! get teh Nismo and be done with it.

05-07-2004, 08:29 PM	#9
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i bought mine new from nissan and never had any problems with it -- running SS line directly, no problems what-so-evar. stop buying cheap shit.

05-07-2004, 09:17 PM	#10
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 43 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dont worry.. i wont buy cheap shit anymore.. i learned my lesson it leaks so bad from the piston.. the cylinder wall had a lot of dark deposits its leaking so bad its not actually leaking... its pouring... fliprayzin: yea i ditched the damper box.. i bypassed mine.. its actually a lil bit more responsive and a lot easier to bleed.. __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

05-07-2004, 09:36 PM	#11
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	i know itll be alot easier to bleed...the only thing worried bout is how much more stiffer itll be...im already running ACT extreme 6 puck UNSPRUNG!!! __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

05-07-2004, 09:54 PM	#12
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 46 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Funny you mention it... I'm at 2 slaves and 1 master in the same year.. with a SS line.. __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

05-07-2004, 09:55 PM	#13
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 43 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	a friend of mine is running ACT 6 puck unsprung too in his SR.. and he also dicthed the damper box... his clutch is not that stiff... my 6 puck feels a bit more stiffer than his actually.. but still drivable.. i like it stiff yea i replaced my master too 3 months ago... and im kinda skeptical about this cuz i bought the "cheap" master cyl... lol __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

05-07-2004, 10:00 PM	#14
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just buy nissan from now on and you'll be fine. if you ever get around to pulling shit apart of feel like getting fancy, check out the nismo products.. i dont think they are that pricey (wholesale atleast). be sure to maintain your fluids, i am sure that helps longevity.

05-07-2004, 10:54 PM	#15
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	one slave, went when I replaced the clutch and pressure plate. no problems other than that though.

05-08-2004, 07:44 AM	#16
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	never had a problem either, ss clutch line, no damper box. stock clutch, and no drifting. I wouldn't doubt it if my car still had the factory original slave cylinder. __________________

05-08-2004, 11:42 AM	#17
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	these devices are nothing mysterious, they are just hydrolic controlled pistons w/ rubber seal and dust boot.. big stink. if you buy cheap shit or use used parts, the seals are obviously old and will have problems. When I had to buy my new clutch MC I spent about 100 wholesale or so. I compared the diff between the cheapie 50-60 dollar version with the one I bought, and it was SO obvious when you tinkered with them. The cheapie used REALLY shit quality dust boot and seals, you felt how UNSMOOTH the piston travel was.. it was crap. If you pop open the resevoir you could see the rough casting. For those of you wondering, rough casting is NOT good for bushings.. it eventually will eat away at the bushing and cause failure. The better quality one was polished. I ended up having to fully take apart my clutch MC because I (haha) used the JDM one (i converted from auto to manual and in the process used parts off of a clip).. the size of the MC's are similar but the JDM vs USDM was a bit different, so I just swapped internals. The seal is the only part thats important. Same goes for the slave cylinder. Although, the NISMO one has minor differences which give the pedal an easier feel (from what i've read) .. so.. while the design may vary the concepts are all the same.

05-08-2004, 12:36 PM	#18
Rennen Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Stafford, VA Age: 42 Posts: 882 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Rennen Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My OEM slave cylinder gave out earlier this year at 130k. It had a disagreement with a tight 1st gear section of an autocross course The clutch fluid was disgusting when I changed it, looked more like mercury than brake fluid, it had most likely been in there for the whole 130k miles. -Matt __________________ '89 Nissan 240SX fastback: #23 DSP/RallyMod2/Track Slut '95 BMW 540i 6 speed: Ultimate Commuting Machine PFM Racing www.solo2.org www.midwest240sx.com

05-08-2004, 03:40 PM	#19
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you can rebuild your stock slave cyl too, with a kit from autozone for like 3 bucks.

05-08-2004, 04:56 PM	#20
RedlineRacer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clemson, South Carolina Age: 40 Posts: 1,054 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Speaking of the slave cylinder. Does anyone else have problems with that damn bleed valve? Mine is so damn stripped. I have the hardest time keeping a wrench on there. Now the only thing I can use are vise-grips. I think I need to buy a new one.