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Old 06-18-2012, 08:48 PM   #1
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There is zero doubt that a 'custom' tune can make for a far better experience (in fact I'd say 85% of most tuned cars drive like shit outside of WOT), but 10 hours on a dyno is a long day to say the least. I'm totally interested in the part throttle low load experience
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:09 PM   #2
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More capability = more chances to screw something up too. I view some EMS's for a 'street car' to be much like smart phones. People swear their (insert fancy Iphone or Android here) are just better because they do more stuff, when 90% of the owners dont' even use 90% of their ability...much like the EMS's.

Without a doubt the newer stuff offers more flexibility..and anyone that has messed around with old stuff compared to new will never go back to the old stuff...but 'more bells and whistles' doesn't equate to whats best. Just because you can run a AEM, doesn't mean the end result is guaranteeing to be better than an Enthalpy or JWT Rom tune. I mean, how many standalone cars out there make less power than some of the good rom cars? Tons. That's not to say that they can't make better power, but unless the tuner is truely capable...well...it's like eating steak with a spoon. I think if anything, a standalone allows the tuner to mask issues with a car at times too...whereas with a rom based setup, usually a 'poor running setup' often has tons of small issues.
I can see where you're coming from. It's alot more than what most people need. I'm not the one doing the tuning though.So i won't have to worry about messing anything up. A guy named Mitch (cant remember his last name for the life of me, only met him once) will be doing it. He tunes for Rhys Millen Racing and multiple other podium standing time attack cars. He's fucking brilliant. What took that dude above us 10+hrs would have taken him half the time using the AEM with a fuel map more than twice the size of Apexis. lol.

I'm just trying to pull every bit of HP i can out of this thing. And I can't do that with the Apexi.

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There is zero doubt that a 'custom' tune can make for a far better experience (in fact I'd say 85% of most tuned cars drive like shit outside of WOT), but 10 hours on a dyno is a long day to say the least. I'm totally interested in the part throttle low load experience
I always specified to tuners that it's a daily and to get from idle to redline perfect. I can't stand having a funky map outside of WOT.
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Old 06-19-2012, 08:51 AM   #3
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I can see where you're coming from. It's alot more than what most people need. I'm not the one doing the tuning though.So i won't have to worry about messing anything up. A guy named Mitch (cant remember his last name for the life of me, only met him once) will be doing it. He tunes for Rhys Millen Racing and multiple other podium standing time attack cars. He's fucking brilliant. What took that dude above us 10+hrs would have taken him half the time using the AEM with a fuel map more than twice the size of Apexis. lol.

I'm just trying to pull every bit of HP i can out of this thing. And I can't do that with the Apexi.

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I always specified to tuners that it's a daily and to get from idle to redline perfect. I can't stand having a funky map outside of WOT.
i like how you say that how dont know how to tune so theres no need to worry about messing up the system with a complicated ecu like aem; but at the same time you are so confident that the aem will net more power than a pfc.
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i like how you say that how dont know how to tune so theres no need to worry about messing up the system with a complicated ecu like aem; but at the same time you are so confident that the aem will net more power than a pfc.
Because that tuner switched JZ engines from Apexi to AEM all the time and with no modsother than the ECU he makes more power.

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Because that tuner switched JZ engines from Apexi to AEM all the time and with no modsother than the ECU he makes more power.

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