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mk2mike · 09-05-2012, 08:24 PM

I recently bought a head complete with tomei cams, and cam gears.

But when I received it I found some issues... seems some wear on cams, rockers and on (1) cam journal. Also found some odd damage.

Here are some pics.

WTF?

I feel this is odd cam wear

Worn Rockers?

Cam Journel wear?

Bent Stud

I have 4 rockers arms I feel are worn below spec and in connection with that tore up some of the cam lobes. But feel like the head isn't in "perfect" shape as told

Dolby109 · 09-05-2012, 08:47 PM

Def not even in OK condition...see what you can do to get money back or something.

mk2mike · 09-05-2012, 09:00 PM

Yeah, sucks because I already know how it's going to go.

paypal-" send item back and we will issue refund"

Sucks item is so heavy.... and seller is so shady, already have a claim open as it wasn't shipped until I filed it

jr_ss · 09-05-2012, 09:06 PM

Include the damage in that claim. If they stated item was "perfect" they lied. Rockers can. E replaced. That can wear is pretty severe, but main concern is that cam journal. You may be able to lightly sand that out, but should be done with caution.

TheRealSy90 · 09-05-2012, 09:18 PM

Those cams are really worn out, they won't have anywhere near the same performance.

mk2mike · 09-05-2012, 09:21 PM

Ironically enough, the whole reasoning to buying another head was worn cam journals, so slightly... pissed.

ILoveJDM · 09-05-2012, 10:41 PM

those are worn because solid lifters were not used with the tomei 270 cams that are in there.

worn rocker arms from not enough clearance, also the motor TICKS from slapping without solid lifters. whoever sold you that and told you it was OKAY to run and not an issue really fucked you.

mk2mike · 09-05-2012, 11:37 PM

FANTASTIC.... Looks like my car will be down for some more time. Just hope I don't lose out on $400 too

R@ddy · 09-06-2012, 12:33 AM

take some wd-40 and some 2000 grit sandpaper to that cam journal. Lose the cam, get a new one, new rockers, and deck the head. That damage to the front of the head, I wouldn't worry too much as its not in the vital part where it needs to seal (around the piston and water ports)

*fliprayzin240sx* · 09-06-2012, 02:34 PM

I'd just be cautious on why it has that much damage. Shitty oil pump or clogged oil lines/drippers can be the issue.

mk2mike · 09-06-2012, 06:38 PM

Just sucks so many shady people in the world. "perfect" head eh

Davidna2fi · 09-06-2012, 06:43 PM

I feel ya...Lost $500 on a head as well

http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/46946...lots-pics.html

ard · 09-07-2012, 04:06 PM

yeah, looks like this head got some oil starvation. cams are f*cked but you really can't do anything cheap/reliable to the cam journals on head.
i think that damage in the chain area shows that this previous engine had pretty nasty failure including broken chain and other nasty things. i suggest finding a fresh head to play with.

mk2mike · 09-08-2012, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davidna2fi

I feel ya...Lost $500 on a head as well

http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/46946...lots-pics.html

That sucks man! I don't get it. People must think others are not going to notice.

Luckily I WILL be getting my money back according to paypal

Spencer dougherty · 09-13-2012, 01:50 AM

looks like motor had low oil pressure.. there no good

mk2mike · 09-14-2012, 07:59 PM

Dang, PayPal takes forever.
Sending head back to seller for refund . So annoyed with bad sellers :-(

09-05-2012, 08:24 PM	#1
mk2mike Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: california Age: 39 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Bought a SR20 head, but need some help I recently bought a head complete with tomei cams, and cam gears. But when I received it I found some issues... seems some wear on cams, rockers and on (1) cam journal. Also found some odd damage. Here are some pics. WTF? I feel this is odd cam wear Worn Rockers? Cam Journel wear? Bent Stud I have 4 rockers arms I feel are worn below spec and in connection with that tore up some of the cam lobes. But feel like the head isn't in "perfect" shape as told

09-05-2012, 09:06 PM	#4
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,415 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	Include the damage in that claim. If they stated item was "perfect" they lied. Rockers can. E replaced. That can wear is pretty severe, but main concern is that cam journal. You may be able to lightly sand that out, but should be done with caution. __________________ My SR20VET Does your VTC gear rattle in your S14/15 SR? PM me.

09-05-2012, 10:41 PM	#7
ILoveJDM Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SK Canada! Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	those are worn because solid lifters were not used with the tomei 270 cams that are in there. worn rocker arms from not enough clearance, also the motor TICKS from slapping without solid lifters. whoever sold you that and told you it was OKAY to run and not an issue really fucked you. __________________ DODOlogic.ca

09-06-2012, 02:34 PM	#10
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I'd just be cautious on why it has that much damage. Shitty oil pump or clogged oil lines/drippers can be the issue. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

09-05-2012, 08:47 PM	#2
Dolby109 Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Def not even in OK condition...see what you can do to get money back or something.

09-05-2012, 09:00 PM	#3
mk2mike Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: california Age: 39 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Yeah, sucks because I already know how it's going to go. paypal-" send item back and we will issue refund" Sucks item is so heavy.... and seller is so shady, already have a claim open as it wasn't shipped until I filed it

09-05-2012, 09:21 PM	#6
mk2mike Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: california Age: 39 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Ironically enough, the whole reasoning to buying another head was worn cam journals, so slightly... pissed.

09-05-2012, 11:37 PM	#8
mk2mike Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: california Age: 39 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	FANTASTIC.... Looks like my car will be down for some more time. Just hope I don't lose out on $400 too

09-06-2012, 12:33 AM	#9
R@ddy Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SoCal Age: 35 Posts: 1,632 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	take some wd-40 and some 2000 grit sandpaper to that cam journal. Lose the cam, get a new one, new rockers, and deck the head. That damage to the front of the head, I wouldn't worry too much as its not in the vital part where it needs to seal (around the piston and water ports)

09-06-2012, 06:38 PM	#11
mk2mike Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: california Age: 39 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Just sucks so many shady people in the world. "perfect" head eh

09-06-2012, 06:43 PM	#12
Davidna2fi Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 513 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I feel ya...Lost $500 on a head as well http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/46946...lots-pics.html

09-07-2012, 04:06 PM	#13
ard Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lithuania Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah, looks like this head got some oil starvation. cams are f*cked but you really can't do anything cheap/reliable to the cam journals on head. i think that damage in the chain area shows that this previous engine had pretty nasty failure including broken chain and other nasty things. i suggest finding a fresh head to play with.

09-13-2012, 01:50 AM	#15
Spencer dougherty Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santa Ana CA SideWays Performance 1(714)330-0021 Age: 42 Posts: 2,554 Trader Rating: (65) Rides Gallery: Spencer dougherty Feedback Score: 65 reviews	looks like motor had low oil pressure.. there no good

09-14-2012, 07:59 PM	#16
mk2mike Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: california Age: 39 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Dang, PayPal takes forever. Sending head back to seller for refund . So annoyed with bad sellers :-(