2012 Presidential Election Thread! Let's kick it off early!

[K_style]

I have questions for you all.

I moved here in state back in 2003 and will be naturalized next year which I will be able to vote(legally) unlike many illegals voting even they do not have rights.

Anyways, I have been listening Glenn Beck and Lars Larson daily basis and they both are obviously anti Democrats. And I do feel strongly agree on many thing with them especially with current Democrats in Oregon doing bad as I see it.
And it all seems to me, Democrats are being similar to communism. Maybe I am going too far, but hearing from Democrats making people relying on their government for everything makes me thing that.
But again, I maybe wrong. I never studied about political and I am new to this.



Ok, here is question I have.

1.What is both parties philosophy? beliefs? and supports?
- I found it and read it about both parties but I would like to hear from forum members what their thoughts are.

2. Have you watched 2016: Obama's America? what are your thought?

Call it dumb question or whatever you want. I only been in state for 8+ years and never found my self and political interested person before until now.

[1 88 U]

Originally Posted by K_style

I have questions for you all.

I moved here in state back in 2003 and will be naturalized next year which I will be able to vote(legally) unlike many illegals voting even they do not have rights.

Anyways, I have been listening Glenn Beck and Lars Larson daily basis and they both are obviously anti Democrats. And I do feel strongly agree on many thing with them especially with current Democrats in Oregon doing bad as I see it.
And it all seems to me, Democrats are being similar to communism. Maybe I am going too far, but hearing from Democrats making people relying on their government for everything makes me thing that.
But again, I maybe wrong. I never studied about political and I am new to this.



Ok, here is question I have.

1.What is both parties philosophy? beliefs? and supports?
- I found it and read it about both parties but I would like to hear from forum members what their thoughts are.

2. Have you watched 2016: Obama's America? what are your thought?

Call it dumb question or whatever you want. I only been in state for 8+ years and never found my self and political interested person before until now.

What country are you from?

Glenn Beck is a Conservative Libertarian not a Republican. We have two parties in this country that hold any kind of power and they vary drastically from region to region as to their positions. Generally speaking the Republican Party is made up of majority white Protestant Christians that want a religious lead totalitarian state and a corporatist class that want not only low/no taxes and no regulations on business but also support government subsidies for said businesses. Democrats tend to be a diverse coalition of "not republicans."

We do not have a leftist party. Only a far right wing party and a center right party that is sympathetic to women, gays, blacks and poors.

[gbaby2089]

Originally Posted by K_style

1.What is both parties philosophy? beliefs? and supports?
- I found it and read it about both parties but I would like to hear from forum members what their thoughts are.

2. Have you watched 2016: Obama's America? what are your thought?

Call it dumb question or whatever you want. I only been in state for 8+ years and never found my self and political interested person before until now.

1.) The parties do not have set party beliefs. Generally the Democrats are in favour of federal gov't spending for social aide, higher taxes rather than cutting programs, regulations on economics, less social limitations

The republicans tend to favour military spending, lower taxes, following a White Christian moral code, etc.

The Republicans shift ever more conservate with each passing day. Richard Nixon would likely be considered a democrat (if based solely on his views) today.

[LEG1T]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

1.) The parties do not have set party beliefs. Generally the Democrats are in favour of federal gov't spending for social aide, higher taxes rather than cutting programs, regulations on economics, less social limitations

The republicans tend to favour military spending, lower taxes, following a White Christian moral code, etc.

The Republicans shift ever more conservate with each passing day. Richard Nixon would likely be considered a democrat (if based solely on his views) today.

Did you really just say that?"lower taxes"

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by LEG1T

Did you really just say that?"lower taxes"

He said what they FAVOUR, not what actually winds up happening

[LEG1T]

Originally Posted by Phlip

He said what they FAVOUR, not what actually winds up happening

Truth, cause the opposite winds up happening.

[gbaby2089]

Originally Posted by LEG1T

Did you really just say that?"lower taxes"

Originally Posted by Phlip

He said what they FAVOUR, not what actually winds up happening

Originally Posted by LEG1T

Truth, cause the opposite winds up happening.

I know that completely. Philip got it. All the things are simply hopes and dreams, none of those things get done in our flawed system.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

following a White Christian moral code, etc.

I'd be curious to what the definition of this is... since percentage wise more blacks appose gay mariage then any other racial group and Hispanics are primarily Catholic, the christian group liberals hate the most, (male only ministers, no birth-control or abortion, aposed to homosexual lifestyles and premarital sex... in fact sex is only for procreation... ect ect. )


...Iornicly most Catholics are democrats.

[gbaby2089]

Originally Posted by Corbic

I'd be curious to what the definition of this is... since percentage wise more blacks oppose gay mariage than any other racial group and Hispanics are primarily Catholic, the christian group liberals hate the most, (male only ministers, no birth-control or abortion, opposed to homosexual lifestyles and premarital sex... in fact sex is only for procreation... etc. etc. )


...Ironically most Catholics are democrats.

Any one who 'hates' any religion is not truly a liberal, they are just as close minded as a bible toting 'Christian' who preaches creationism without giving evolution a second thought. Opposing gay marriage doesn't translate to a hatred for homosexuality either, they may simply not want the word marriage applied to the union. Religion shouldn't control what political party one votes for...

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by Corbic

I'd be curious to what the definition of this is... since percentage wise more blacks appose gay mariage then any other racial group and Hispanics are primarily Catholic, the christian group liberals hate the most, (male only ministers, no birth-control or abortion, aposed to homosexual lifestyles and premarital sex... in fact sex is only for procreation... ect ect. )


...Iornicly most Catholics are democrats.

Explain to me how this is "Iornic"

You don't know many Catholics do you?