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Matej · 02-25-2013, 06:28 PM

The dumbo body shape reminds me of the Nissan Foria concept.

Jsal32 · 02-25-2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Its like the car you put a bag over its head.

LMAO!! This shit had me dying for a while. Too funny.

-Jose

axiomatik · 02-25-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

I've fucking LOVED the ATS since it debuted. My only beef with it is, like a 3 Series, it gets pricey. Sure it starts at an affordable $33,500, but with the 2.0T 6 speed the way I'd want it (not loaded either) it jumps up to $51,155. But good gawd that one is sexy. If you read the comparos between it and the new 3 Series the ATS is winning. The ONLY reason it isn't running away from the 3 Series completely is the 6MT. I guess it BLOWS. Which is a real shame. I can't image GM doesn't fix it with the next model year. The car is just too important to Cadillac and GM as a whole.

How are you optioning it? Building one on the Cadillac site, it looks like the 2.0T manual starts under $35k. Select "2.0T Standard", and then you can select the manual tranny option (which saves $1,100).

*exitspeed* · 02-26-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by axiomatik

How are you optioning it? Building one on the Cadillac site, it looks like the 2.0T manual starts under $35k. Select "2.0T Standard", and then you can select the manual tranny option (which saves $1,100).

If I was going to buy a car like that I couldn't buy a base model. I optioned it out the way I'd want it is how I came to my number.

Corbic · 02-26-2013, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

If I was going to buy a car like that I couldn't buy a base model. I optioned it out the way I'd want it is how I came to my number.

No comprehendai.

The car comes base with more options then half the economy and sports cars out there.

***Future240*** · 02-26-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

No comprehendai.

The car comes base with more options then half the economy and sports cars out there.

That maybe true but I get what he was saying. With this type of vehicle luxury sport, if he was to get it the way he wants it would be 51K vs if he was buying another car that had less options.

Kind of like for 34K do you want a base ATS or a fully loaded version of another car type of deal.

axiomatik · 02-26-2013, 08:06 PM

I'm kind of torn on the options versus value deal.

For example, when I bought my Rx-8, there were more options that I wanted (actually, really wanted, like a sunroof, bluetooth, and HID headlights), that would have required stepping up to the Grand Touring model. But I couldn't pass up the deal that I got on my base model ($21.6k, new). When I compared it against other vehicles I was looking at, like the MS3 and WRX, which cost $4k more, and were FWD, or had a horribly cheap interior.

I decided I enjoyed the satisfaction of a getting a great deal versus a few electronic doodads.

Corbic · 02-26-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Future240

That maybe true but I get what he was saying. With this type of vehicle luxury sport, if he was to get it the way he wants it would be 51K vs if he was buying another car that had less options.

Kind of like for 34K do you want a base ATS or a fully loaded version of another car type of deal.

A base ATS is still far cooler than a loaded Accord.

My problem with most "luxury" performance cars like the A5, A4, 3-series, C-series is that the "base" car is a complete dud performance wise.

For example, an A5 coupe, which is gorgeous, but at a starting price of $38,500 I'm just appalled at the the fact that it has economy car horse power. 211hp, really? Then the fucks are going to nickel and dime me for hids, ipod integration ect?

The ATS turbo at $35k with a manual comes with ipod integration, aux and usb ports, 272hp. The extra 60hp make it very attractive.

So I guess I see your point, that you are paying stupid money and not even getting "normal options" or that the options like hid and ipod integration are stupid priced. But thats how these guys make cash.

*exitspeed* · 02-27-2013, 11:54 AM

I've always just had a mindset that if I'm going to spend the money on a car I'm going to get it the way I want it. And if I'm going to buy a car like an ATS I want Nav, and bigger stock wheels, GM's Pearl Triple Diamond White paint (extra, but really, it's the best pearl white out there), etc etc. And the way I optioned it wasn't maxed out.

But at the same time that puts it at a price that I don't want to justify. But even a base would be pretty cool I guess.

I'm so torn now. You guys have me thinking...eeeek.

I still couldn't live without the pearl white though.

SimpleS14 · 02-27-2013, 03:37 PM

exitspeed - Now I'm curious to see what options you'd pick and post a screenshot like axiomatik did.

oh these rumors...
Chevrolet planning low-cost Corvette under Stingray?

*exitspeed* · 02-27-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

exitspeed - Now I'm curious to see what options you'd pick and post a screenshot like axiomatik did.

It was a 2.0T Premium, with 18" wheels, Pearl White Paint, Spoiler, Sunroof, Driver Assist package (the adaptive cruise control is cool), and the cold weather package (since I'm in WI).

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

oh these rumors...
Chevrolet planning low-cost Corvette under Stingray?

Saw that earlier. Pretty cool. I wish they would make a line of Vette's with different bodies. Like make a Kappa II platform and make a smaller V6 Vette.

Corbic · 02-27-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Saw that earlier. Pretty cool. I wish they would make a line of Vette's with different bodies. Like make a Kappa II platform and make a smaller V6 Vette.

I would erase any evidence of this post if I was you. If it happened and the vette community found out you made these comments...... accidents happen.

Corbic · 02-27-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

exitspeed - Now I'm curious to see what options you'd pick and post a screenshot like axiomatik did.

oh these rumors...
Chevrolet planning low-cost Corvette under Stingray?

Chevy would be stupid to call it a vette.

Bambi · 02-27-2013, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

Chevy would be stupid to call it a vette.

Yeah who the fuck do they think they are, Nissan?

Corbic · 02-27-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

Yeah who the fuck do they think they are, Nissan?

I'm not sure what you are getting at...

simmode1 · 02-27-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Saw that earlier. Pretty cool. I wish they would make a line of Vette's with different bodies. Like make a Kappa II platform and make a smaller V6 Vette.

Return of the Baby Vette? Yes please. But with that new ATS 2.0T motor. Kthxbye.

SimpleS14 · 02-27-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Saw that earlier. Pretty cool. I wish they would make a line of Vette's with different bodies. Like make a Kappa II platform and make a smaller V6 Vette.

lol wut? That's like saying Nissan should release a line of Zs with different bodies and one with a I-4 engine lol

*kingkilburn* · 02-28-2013, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

I wish they would make a line of Vette's with different bodies. Like make a Kappa II platform and make a smaller V6 Vette.

It'd be a nice way to bring back the Solstice coupe with a solid update and turbo 4. They could even give it some of the styling of the OG vettes.

*exitspeed* · 02-28-2013, 05:21 AM

I didn't make this up. This was actually a plan of GM's when the Kappa twins were around. They weren't necessarily going to call it a Vette, but they were going to style it very similar to a Vette. It was going to have a V6 in it too. True story.

1 88 U · 02-28-2013, 05:19 PM

DreamN · 02-28-2013, 06:48 PM

I don't know why yet, but I like it.

Seriously wish I could talk myself into buying an FRS/BRZ.

*exitspeed* · 02-28-2013, 07:12 PM

While that is ONE NICE VERT I have 0.0000% interest in that.

1 88 U · 02-28-2013, 08:35 PM

Corbic · 02-28-2013, 09:12 PM

So is the 86 going to be officially giving Mazda the finger or is this a concept job with no real future? If it's legit, I'm irritated they did not come out with a turbo version before they did a drop top.

The proportions are terrible.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 02-28-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

So is the 86 going to be officially giving Mazda the finger or is this a concept job with no real future? If it's legit, I'm irritated they did not come out with a turbo version before they did a drop top.

The proportions are terrible.

wait until subaru drops the BRZ STI...

1 88 U · 02-28-2013, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

wait until subaru drops the BRZ STI...

It's not going to be turbo. All signs point to a 20-40 hp bump and lighter.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 03-01-2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 1 88 U

It's not going to be turbo. All signs point to a 20-40 hp bump and lighter.

honestly, everything ive been reading about the car (including a few reports from japan and some insiders i personally know) have stated that a few subbie execs involved in the STI building have let slip that the car is supposed to be turbo

power bump is meant to be up around 286hp/267ft tq on a smaller turbo setup (im guessing T28 size running 10-12ish lbs of boost)

but well just have to wait and see...

*kingkilburn* · 03-01-2013, 12:04 AM

But how ugly is it with the top up?

drift freaq · 03-01-2013, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kingkilburn

But how ugly is it with the top up?

It's ugly already with the top down. Like Corbic said the proportions are all off. Terrible execution of a vert.

*exitspeed* · 03-01-2013, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

So is the 86 going to be officially giving Mazda the finger or is this a concept job with no real future? If it's legit, I'm irritated they did not come out with a turbo version before they did a drop top.

The proportions are terrible.

No, it's a preview of the production car. They said early on that they intended to release a vert.

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