Looking at buying an S12, tips?

[S12 Drifter]

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

I need to get out of this fucking state ASAP.

you do that.

moving because someone on the internet pissed you off? seems legit.

[89gold240]

I had a 88 S-12 with the pos ca20e. I LOVED that car. Wish i kept it and did a CA18DET swap.

Had as good of chasiss as any newer Silvia in my opinion, It is lighter and seems like they have a beter balance stock.

Looks might not be quite as fluid as the newer cars but it has that 80's funk.

The only problem their known for is rotten rocker panels so check that out.

And check out Club S12 for more info.

[racepar1]

This is retarded, "S12 Drifter" needs to STFU. The S12 is nothing special, NOTHING. The biggest issue is that there is no aftermarket. Everything you want to do is custom or adapted from an S13. The suspension design is bullshit, just like the Z31 (useless POS). The rear trailing arm suspension sucks ballsack. They tend to toe out under compression which causes loads of bumpsteer. The front suspension is fixable using S13 bits, but from my understanding it isn't quite "bolt-on". There IS some cutting/welding involved. Stop arguing about how boss the s12 is, because it's not.


OP: If you're just looking for something to drive around for a while and the price is right then fine, buy the S12. If you're looking to modify it, even a little, then forget it. It's too much hassle to even get coilovers on the damned thing.

[S12 Drifter]

Originally Posted by racepar1

This is retarded, "S12 Drifter" needs to STFU. The S12 is nothing special, NOTHING. The biggest issue is that there is no aftermarket. Everything you want to do is custom or adapted from an S13. The suspension design is bullshit, just like the Z31 (useless POS). The rear trailing arm suspension sucks ballsack. They tend to toe out under compression which causes loads of bumpsteer. The front suspension is fixable using S13 bits, but from my understanding it isn't quite "bolt-on". There IS some cutting/welding involved. Stop arguing about how boss the s12 is, because it's not.


OP: If you're just looking for something to drive around for a while and the price is right then fine, buy the S12. If you're looking to modify it, even a little, then forget it. It's too much hassle to even get coilovers on the damned thing.

never said they were boss THEIR DATED but they were pretty good for a 80's design and the S14 rear subframe and front suspension is VERY swap able with stuff.

know what though? I'm glad im in the Z31/ S12 route because it actually teaches you how to fabricate make one off shit you have no bolt on kiddies and thats awesome their less likely to get stolen and not only that no one Z31/S12 is ever the same as the next guys.


hey guy stfu and read up.

Z31 -> S13 Front Coilover Conversion | Ghetto Garage

Z32/S13/S14 - multi-link rear suspension swap

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by S12 Drifter

never said they were boss THEIR DATED but they were pretty good for a 80's design and the S14 rear subframe and front suspension is VERY swap able with stuff.

know what though? I'm glad im in the Z31/ S12 route because it actually teaches you how to fabricate make one off shit you have no bolt on kiddies and thats awesome their less likely to get stolen and not only that no one Z31/S12 is ever the same as the next guys.


hey guy stfu and read up.

Z31 -> S13 Front Coilover Conversion | Ghetto Garage

Z32/S13/S14 - multi-link rear suspension swap

You know why they're less likely to get stolen? Because they suck. So to make an S12/Z31 cool you've gotta swap the suspension from an S13/14 huh? That makes sense... Why not just buy the S13/14 in the first place and swap nothing. Then you don't have an ugly ass POS to drive. I bet nobody that has done that swap has bothered to properly measure out the suspension to ensure that it's functioning correctly, have they? What about roll center? What about roll axis? What about anti-squat/dive? Steering axis geometry? Truthfully you don't even know if it works any better than the original suspension. At least the original suspension was located as properly as possible by Nissan.

I/WE get it. You love the underdog. You love the ugly duckling. Good for you. The bottom line is that for the average individual it's a bad choice. If it was a good choice for the OP he wouldn't have to have created this thread. He would have been resourceful enough to figure it out by himself. That's what it takes to do anything at all with an S12. That is the whole point of the people talking shit.

[S12 Drifter]

Originally Posted by racepar1

He would have been resourceful enough to figure it out by himself. That's what it takes to do anything at all with an S12. That is the whole point of the people talking shit.

fair enough, I disagree it looks ugly however everyone has different taste.

[EliteGTR]

Originally Posted by racepar1

You know why they're less likely to get stolen? Because they suck. So to make an S12/Z31 cool you've gotta swap the suspension from an S13/14 huh? That makes sense... Why not just buy the S13/14 in the first place and swap nothing. Then you don't have an ugly ass POS to drive. I bet nobody that has done that swap has bothered to properly measure out the suspension to ensure that it's functioning correctly, have they? What about roll center? What about roll axis? What about anti-squat/dive? Steering axis geometry? Truthfully you don't even know if it works any better than the original suspension. At least the original suspension was located as properly as possible by Nissan.

I/WE get it. You love the underdog. You love the ugly duckling. Good for you. The bottom line is that for the average individual it's a bad choice. If it was a good choice for the OP he wouldn't have to have created this thread. He would have been resourceful enough to figure it out by himself. That's what it takes to do anything at all with an S12. That is the whole point of the people talking shit.

S12 is less likely to get stolen because there is less demand for parts. So what if you swap parts to update the car. Is that not a common occurrence in the automotive world? there is nothing special about the s13/14 either. its wanna be sports car with a truck motor.

We get it. You dont like the car but the OP is not asking about your personal feelings. Are you an auto enthusiast or just a follower? Comments like yours should not come from people who enjoy working on/ modifying cars.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by EliteGTR

S12 is less likely to get stolen because there is less demand for parts. So what if you swap parts to update the car. Is that not a common occurrence in the automotive world? there is nothing special about the s13/14 either. its wanna be sports car with a truck motor.

We get it. You dont like the car but the OP is not asking about your personal feelings. Are you an auto enthusiast or just a follower? Comments like yours should not come from people who enjoy working on/ modifying cars.

You're right, s-chasis cars are nothing special. You have to change every single thing about the cars to make them cool. The point is that all the parts are available. You cannot say the same for a S12. Everything is custom and you STILL have to change every single thing about them to make them cool as well. OP doesn't appear to be very handy or resourceful. That's going to be a BIG problem with an S12.

As for the KA hate, keep it to yourself. I have always been a big supporter of the KA engines. They have far more potential than they are credited for. I've got a singlecam in my "new" 240. I'll be out to embarass some SR kids.

OP needs to know what he's getting into with the S12. It's not a straightforward car to modify. It doesn't have a lot of go-fast potential. It doesn't have much of a classic appeal. Modifying an S12 is completely against the grain, so to speak. If that's OP's "bag" then fine, go for it. Judging by this thread it is NOT OP's "bag" and he would be better off elsewhere.

[EliteGTR]

Fair enough. Im not hating on the KA. My opinion is that it should've not came in a car that Nissan considered a sports car. Again, just my opinion.

[EliteGTR]

so hot!!!

[FRpilot]

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

I need to get out of this fucking state ASAP.

Originally Posted by S12 Drifter

you do that.

moving because someone on the internet pissed you off? seems legit.

don't flatter yourself. it's an inside joke on this forum (and surprisingly accurate) that a majority of the stupid posts on this forum are from people who live in Florida.

[S12 Drifter]

Originally Posted by FRpilot

don't flatter yourself. it's an inside joke on this forum (and surprisingly accurate) that a majority of the stupid posts on this forum are from people who live in Florida.

nice generalization. find that on the funny side lol.