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nd240sx3 · 08-04-2004, 07:30 PM

anyone install apexi safc is it hard can i do it w/o a dyno on hand or do i somehow gotta get it to a dyno and pay out the ass and do it there? what exactly am i lookin at here by the way its a 91 ka24det

***S14DB*** · 08-04-2004, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nd240sx3

anyone install apexi safc is it hard can i do it w/o a dyno on hand or do i somehow gotta get it to a dyno and pay out the ass and do it there? what exactly am i lookin at here by the way its a 91 ka24det

Goto a tuner and "pay out the ass." Should take them 2hrs to get it down.

SirWarrior · 08-04-2004, 08:56 PM

installing it is easy. no dyno required. But if you want to tune it. Well thats when dyno is needed.
Trust me, dyno-tuning will be the best bang-per-buck you can do. Spend like 2-3hrs on dyno it will be well worth the $$. Depending who you know, dyno testing can be had fairly cheaply or really expensive. (Dont hate me but I get my dyno time for free) Average prices range from 80-130bux for first Hr. and about 50-100 for each one after. But thats just a gauge of what ive seen.
HTH

skatanic28 · 08-04-2004, 08:58 PM

if you know how to install a head unit you should be able to install the safc. just a matter of splicing a few wires on the ecu harness.
as for setup and tuning.....that will be a bit harder.
setup you should be able to do, but you will either need a wideband o2 or some dyno time to tune the right way.

where are you guys gettin your safc's from? i found the safc2 on ebay for 260, but everywhere else its pretty expensive. gettin my wideband tomorrow so i gotta pick one of these up now.thanks

marc

nd240sx3 · 08-04-2004, 09:04 PM

found on ebay 260 so i dont need a widband o2 just some dyno time?

***S14DB*** · 08-04-2004, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nd240sx3

found on ebay 260 so i dont need a widband o2 just some dyno time?

The Dyno should have wideband or it's useless. Wideband in the car is to ajust for DD smothness.

If you goto a Dynojet place they will only be able to do WOT tuning. Mustang or Dynopack can do load testing so you can tune arcoss the throttle.

skatanic28 · 08-04-2004, 11:12 PM

yeah i meant either get a wideband or go to a dyno and use theirs. widebands seem to have dropped a good amount in price though, and 400 bucks for as many hours of tuning as you want starts to sound pretty good compared to 100/hour.

if you dont mind me asking, which ebay place did you get it from?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33597
or
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33597

turbo240sx · 08-05-2004, 08:30 AM

anyone have the diagram they can let me look at for the afc on an s-13? i bought an afc used but dont know which wires to splice into.

1101 · 08-05-2004, 10:20 AM

It's not tough to go to the Apexi Website
and click on documentation

If it's a reg. safc you'll need to look in 3 seperate PDF's.
S-AFC Wiring Manual

Now that manual only has JDM wiring diagrams so it's good to look in the manual called:
S-AFC U.S. Update

Learn how to use it by reading:
S-AFC Manual

A quick google search of "SAFC 240sx Install" found this great site which makes looking a the above useless

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~tmerrick/240SX/apex_safc.htm

Now if you have the SAFC II (The one with the knob instead of the 6 buttons)
S-AFC II Wiring
S-AFC II Manual

Hope this helps.

turbo240sx · 08-05-2004, 10:57 AM

thanks for the info

08-04-2004, 07:30 PM	#1
nd240sx3 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: warminster pa Age: 44 Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	apexi safc install? anyone install apexi safc is it hard can i do it w/o a dyno on hand or do i somehow gotta get it to a dyno and pay out the ass and do it there? what exactly am i lookin at here by the way its a 91 ka24det

08-04-2004, 08:56 PM	#3
SirWarrior Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 762 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	installing it is easy. no dyno required. But if you want to tune it. Well thats when dyno is needed. Trust me, dyno-tuning will be the best bang-per-buck you can do. Spend like 2-3hrs on dyno it will be well worth the $$. Depending who you know, dyno testing can be had fairly cheaply or really expensive. (Dont hate me but I get my dyno time for free) Average prices range from 80-130bux for first Hr. and about 50-100 for each one after. But thats just a gauge of what ive seen. HTH __________________ 92 FastBack - Project 98 SE - Daily Driver

08-04-2004, 09:04 PM	#5
nd240sx3 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: warminster pa Age: 44 Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	apexi safc 2 found on ebay 260 so i dont need a widband o2 just some dyno time?

08-05-2004, 08:30 AM	#8
turbo240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CT Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	anyone have the diagram they can let me look at for the afc on an s-13? i bought an afc used but dont know which wires to splice into. __________________ 240sx s-13 TURBO weekend v-8 killer 90 Talon TSI WARNING.THIS CAR IS EQUIPPED WITH A TURBOCHARGER. DUE TO POSSIBLE BREATHING PROBLEMS UNDER HEAVY ACCELERATION, ALL FEMALES ARE ADVISED TO REMOVE ANY TIGHT FITTING OR RESTRICTIVE CLOTHING FOR SAFETY.

08-05-2004, 10:57 AM	#10
turbo240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CT Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks for the info __________________ 240sx s-13 TURBO weekend v-8 killer 90 Talon TSI WARNING.THIS CAR IS EQUIPPED WITH A TURBOCHARGER. DUE TO POSSIBLE BREATHING PROBLEMS UNDER HEAVY ACCELERATION, ALL FEMALES ARE ADVISED TO REMOVE ANY TIGHT FITTING OR RESTRICTIVE CLOTHING FOR SAFETY.

08-04-2004, 08:58 PM	#4
skatanic28 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Age: 41 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you know how to install a head unit you should be able to install the safc. just a matter of splicing a few wires on the ecu harness. as for setup and tuning.....that will be a bit harder. setup you should be able to do, but you will either need a wideband o2 or some dyno time to tune the right way. where are you guys gettin your safc's from? i found the safc2 on ebay for 260, but everywhere else its pretty expensive. gettin my wideband tomorrow so i gotta pick one of these up now.thanks marc

08-04-2004, 11:12 PM	#7
skatanic28 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Age: 41 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah i meant either get a wideband or go to a dyno and use theirs. widebands seem to have dropped a good amount in price though, and 400 bucks for as many hours of tuning as you want starts to sound pretty good compared to 100/hour. if you dont mind me asking, which ebay place did you get it from? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33597 or http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33597

08-05-2004, 10:20 AM	#9
1101 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tallahassee Age: 39 Posts: 76 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's not tough to go to the Apexi Website and click on documentation If it's a reg. safc you'll need to look in 3 seperate PDF's. S-AFC Wiring Manual Now that manual only has JDM wiring diagrams so it's good to look in the manual called: S-AFC U.S. Update Learn how to use it by reading: S-AFC Manual A quick google search of "SAFC 240sx Install" found this great site which makes looking a the above useless http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~tmerrick/240SX/apex_safc.htm Now if you have the SAFC II (The one with the knob instead of the 6 buttons) S-AFC II Wiring S-AFC II Manual Hope this helps.