91 S13 Hatch First build 15 years old

[mechanicalmoron]

On one hand, it's cool and all, and neat that you're so young and doing this.

On the other hand, poor fenders, rolled for THAT? Car will handle like poop at that height, and the tein springs where probably better than raceland coils.

Stock color looks great, you might consider getting it resprayed or touched up and blended, raising it to correct the roll center and the front camber gain that you'll have like that, praying for forgiveness for doing that to your fenders, selling the kit, and concentrating on a reliable motor and suspension upgrades focused on performance, not looks.

Here's a great article series on why you should raise your car:

Handling and Cornering Improvment Guide - Tech - Sport Compact Car Magazine

I assume you know this, but if not, as you'll need to know if you do read that or put any actual thought into suspension, we have macphearson front and multilink rear.

Also, I could be wrong but I assume raceland coils don't have a way of adjusting spring preload, other than height, and with my experience with entry level coils, you should ABSOLUTELY run them as high as you can, which is probably going to be as much of a drop as you should do without a bunch of suspension parts to adjust out the roll center/other changes, anyway. If you run them low you won't have enough (or any) preload, and the damping rates will probably be poorly matched to the spring rates, and being cheap the dampers are probably not going to work as well when they're already compressed that much (and may blow).

And, do you no longer have carpet? It looked just fine, better than mine and many other people's. If you don't have it, it's super ugly now.... hope you put it back.

[futures14drift]

Originally Posted by mechanicalmoron

On one hand, it's cool and all, and neat that you're so young and doing this.

On the other hand, poor fenders, rolled for THAT? Car will handle like poop at that height, and the tein springs where probably better than raceland coils.

Stock color looks great, you might consider getting it resprayed or touched up and blended, raising it to correct the roll center and the front camber gain that you'll have like that, praying for forgiveness for doing that to your fenders, selling the kit, and concentrating on a reliable motor and suspension upgrades focused on performance, not looks.

Here's a great article series on why you should raise your car:

Handling and Cornering Improvment Guide - Tech - Sport Compact Car Magazine

I assume you know this, but if not, as you'll need to know if you do read that or put any actual thought into suspension, we have macphearson front and multilink rear.

Also, I could be wrong but I assume raceland coils don't have a way of adjusting spring preload, other than height, and with my experience with entry level coils, you should ABSOLUTELY run them as high as you can, which is probably going to be as much of a drop as you should do without a bunch of suspension parts to adjust out the roll center/other changes, anyway. If you run them low you won't have enough (or any) preload, and the damping rates will probably be poorly matched to the spring rates, and being cheap the dampers are probably not going to work as well when they're already compressed that much (and may blow).

And, do you no longer have carpet? It looked just fine, better than mine and many other people's. If you don't have it, it's super ugly now.... hope you put it back.

Thank you for your advice. I am looking into fender flares but either way the car is going to be raised up a lot to protect the aero kit from being destroyed. Cry about me using racelands, i don't care right now. For the carpet, if you looked through all the pictures, the car had 3 holes in the floor. Water got in and created mold. I am going to replace it with black carpet.

[mechanicalmoron]

Originally Posted by futures14drift

Thank you for your advice. I am looking into fender flares but either way the car is going to be raised up a lot to protect the aero kit from being destroyed. Cry about me using racelands, i don't care right now. For the carpet, if you looked through all the pictures, the car had 3 holes in the floor. Water got in and created mold. I am going to replace it with black carpet.

It's cool that you're almost receptive to advice.

You seemed to miss the important parts, but ehh...

I've considered racelands myself, I'm just telling you that they will probably preform best at their highest setting, and may or may not preform any better than your tein springs. Stop being all defensive, and think about what I said, and my PERSONAL experience with cheap coilovers - being lowered even where tein told me was awful, damping didn't work right, couldn't get camber right on EITHER end, etc. Now I'm 1 inch below stock (as high as I can go) and it's great (by comparison, of course).

Again, you should really check out that article, there's lots of reason to be pretty close to stock height, unless you have aftermarket knuckles, and then, you should still figure out your ideal height, if you care about your car doing anything other than looking good.

And, make SURE that any time you change the height, you loosen and re-torque ALL bolts on rubber bushings, with the suspension laden (or, you can lower your spring seat all the way, and jack up your lca, torque it all, and then put the seat back where you had it.) If you don't do this, you'll rip out the rubber bushings, and rubber is waaaay better than polyurethane for multilink.