Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Go Back   Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum > General > Tech Talk

Tech Talk Technical Discussion About The Nissan 240SX and Nissan Z Cars


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-10-2004, 09:03 AM   #1
BlackS14
Zilvia Junkie
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Palm Bay, FL
Age: 45
Posts: 384
Trader Rating: (0)
BlackS14 is an unknown quantity at this point
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via Yahoo to BlackS14
Possible serious damage????..PLEASE READ (long)

About a month ago I had a real problem with running rich....and as we all know there are so many factors as to why it would run rich...I decided to knock them all out one by one. Got the car all back together and tried to start her up and it wouldn't start...ended up being a massive fuel leak started due to stressed o-rings. I went and replaced both o-rings on each injector and she fired right up.

Drove well for two whole days....this past weekend I started it up after paying my cell phone bill and I noticed the idle was lumpy, but nothing real bad. I thought nothing of it and proceeded to drive to my buddies house. Well I got about two miles down the road and was at a stoplight when all of the sudden my idle really starts to dip (I had it set at 1,000....it dipped to 800, 500, 300) and I looked in the rear view and noticed TONS of thick white smoke pouring from the exhaust. I kept it alive and drove it into a parking lot and it just died.

I got around to it the day after to see what was going on. I pulled all the spark plugs and noticed they were semi black, but number two was pitch black. On a whim I puled the fuel rail again and sure enough the lower o-ring was bulged and leaking like a siv. After a couple of tries I finally got it to seat right, pressurized the systme and noticed no leaks. Installed the rail again and tried to start again....nothing....number two was filled with fuel again. Either the o-ring bulged again (didn't have time to check) or I'm thinking the injector is stuck open (have yet to check the resistance).

Cliff Notes:
. Replaced injector o-rings
. two days later idle is bad and TONS of white smoke purs out of the exhaust
. fixed o-ring on number two that was found to have bulged
. cyllinder still fills with gas at a moments notice when pressurizing fuel system


Questions:

1. My injectors DO NOT have the small pintle caps on them (the yellowish/tan four pronged plastic hats that are found on the "squirting" end of the injector). Are these caps neccessary for proper operation....I have had friends tell me that they will still spray fine with them off......but I think they are there to help protect the lower o-ring from doing exactly what mine did....bulge...any thoughts?

2. In regards to the white smoke....what could that have been. I know black smoke is fuel and white is coolant. I presumed it to possibly be a head gasket, but the car ran for a good 5 minutes after it first started smoking and my temp stayed at a solid 180 degrees and after checking, there was no coolant in oil or the reverse......what could that have beem?

Thanks guys....give me anything and everything you might be thinking...

-Bill
__________________
Once you go black you...well...you know.....lol!!!!
BlackS14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 06-10-2004, 10:30 AM   #2
Steeles
Post Whore!
 
Steeles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 7th layer of hell, special pit of anger
Age: 48
Posts: 3,785
Trader Rating: (0)
Steeles has a spectacular aura aboutSteeles has a spectacular aura aboutSteeles has a spectacular aura aboutSteeles has a spectacular aura aboutSteeles has a spectacular aura aboutSteeles has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Steeles Send a message via Yahoo to Steeles
Dammit bill get an sr in that thing sorry mang i'm not much help. your way past my problem solving skillz.
__________________
Keeping it Godzira bishes.
So I murdered another turbo
Steeles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2004, 02:15 PM   #3
DJ_Sunrise
Zilvia FREAK!
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NJ
Age: 38
Posts: 1,134
Trader Rating: (1)
DJ_Sunrise is a name known to allDJ_Sunrise is a name known to allDJ_Sunrise is a name known to allDJ_Sunrise is a name known to allDJ_Sunrise is a name known to allDJ_Sunrise is a name known to allDJ_Sunrise is a name known to allDJ_Sunrise is a name known to allDJ_Sunrise is a name known to allDJ_Sunrise is a name known to allDJ_Sunrise is a name known to all
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Send a message via AIM to DJ_Sunrise
did you try checking the ECU for Codes? here, maybe this'll help. http://www.pdm-racing.com/features/plugs.html about the idle.. check your engine grounds, and whats that white smoke smell like? btw.. when starting ur car, does it try to turn over?


~Sunrise
DJ_Sunrise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2004, 10:16 AM   #4
xsparc
Zilvia Junkie
 
xsparc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: san diego area - esco
Posts: 461
Trader Rating: (0)
xsparc is a splendid one to beholdxsparc is a splendid one to beholdxsparc is a splendid one to beholdxsparc is a splendid one to beholdxsparc is a splendid one to beholdxsparc is a splendid one to beholdxsparc is a splendid one to beholdxsparc is a splendid one to beholdxsparc is a splendid one to beholdxsparc is a splendid one to beholdxsparc is a splendid one to behold
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to xsparc Send a message via Yahoo to xsparc
white smoke is usualy a sign there is coolant in the combustion chamber (ie, blown head gasket). check your compression, check your oil, if it looks like a chocolate milkshake thats bad, and look for oil in your coolant.
__________________
No... no one stole my interior... its safely in my garage...
xsparc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2004, 06:37 PM   #5
sr240mike
Zilvia FREAK!
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: California, Norcal biiaatch
Posts: 1,185
Trader Rating: (0)
sr240mike is making a name for him/her selfsr240mike is making a name for him/her selfsr240mike is making a name for him/her self
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
The SAME thing happened to me today!!! It looked like white smoke was pouring out but it smelled of raw fuel. I wasn't over heating either. I pulled all the plugs and checked compression. The #'s were fine except for #4 being drenched in fuel. I almost positive my #4 injector is stuck open. I pulled the injector connectors after all the fuel was out of #4 and cranked it a few times. I looked inside the cylinder and it was drenched again. It seems as though it failed gradually as its been hard to start in the mornings. I havent pulled the fuel rail yet But I will in a few hours if I find some replacement injectors.
__________________

TWO IN THE COOT, ONE IN THE POOT
sr240mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2004, 07:06 AM   #6
Steeles
Post Whore!
 
Steeles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 7th layer of hell, special pit of anger
Age: 48
Posts: 3,785
Trader Rating: (0)
Steeles has a spectacular aura aboutSteeles has a spectacular aura aboutSteeles has a spectacular aura aboutSteeles has a spectacular aura aboutSteeles has a spectacular aura aboutSteeles has a spectacular aura about
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Steeles Send a message via Yahoo to Steeles
Search for Bill's fix of his problem on FA... I dont think he ever put it up on here. or maybe it was another thread in chat... (i *THINK* he's stealth240 on FA)
__________________
Keeping it Godzira bishes.
So I murdered another turbo
Steeles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2004, 09:26 AM   #7
Var
Post Whore!
 
Var's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Norcal
Age: 43
Posts: 5,032
Trader Rating: (0)
Var is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of light
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Var
damnit the same thing is happening to me..kinda. It starts well in the morning but every other time during the day it floods the engine, and there is a little black smoke when i get on it. I just bought a coolant temp sensor yesterday, i'll see if that's the fix.
__________________
Hi
Var is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2004, 11:42 AM   #8
sr240mike
Zilvia FREAK!
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: California, Norcal biiaatch
Posts: 1,185
Trader Rating: (0)
sr240mike is making a name for him/her selfsr240mike is making a name for him/her selfsr240mike is making a name for him/her self
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
What year is your car Var? I may be able to run conzult on it and see if the coolant temp sensor is the problem.
__________________

TWO IN THE COOT, ONE IN THE POOT
sr240mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2004, 02:02 PM   #9
Var
Post Whore!
 
Var's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Norcal
Age: 43
Posts: 5,032
Trader Rating: (0)
Var is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of light
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Var
just installed the sensor on my lunch break..i THINK it fixed the problem. Thanks for you offer tho. We'll see if the car acts up again by friday
__________________
Hi
Var is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2004, 10:27 AM   #10
Var
Post Whore!
 
Var's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Norcal
Age: 43
Posts: 5,032
Trader Rating: (0)
Var is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of lightVar is a glorious beacon of light
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Var
Ok after driving around for a couple days the problem is gone. Prolly not the same thing for you guys but mine is fixed.
__________________
Hi
Var is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vB.Sponsors
Copyright ? 1998 - 2022, Zilvia.net