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Carnifex · 04-09-2014, 06:20 PM

Bought this s13 coupe. sohc ka. had a rough idle / ran shitty at low rpms

recently the car shit out on me and wouldnt start, cranks but doesnt turn over. at first i thought it was a fuel issue, then i checked the spark.
friend let me borrow/test a coil and control module, no difference.

took off a fuel line and didn't get any fuel either.
tried an ecu diagnostic and lights wouldn't flash..

figured this is either the EGI or a faulty ecu.
dont have much experience with this stuff so give me your input.
thanks

Vegass13 · 04-09-2014, 06:23 PM

check your fuses? and if you get it running check the timing...it might help the shitty drive at low rpms

Carnifex · 04-09-2014, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegass13

check your fuses? and if you get it running check the timing...it might help the shitty drive at low rpms

it wont even start at this point lol

checked fuses didnt see any problems

Vegass13 · 04-09-2014, 06:41 PM

You said no fuel came out of the sending line when you took it off? I don't think it would squirt out but if you tried priming with it off and none came out then I'd start with the fuel pump

Carnifex · 04-09-2014, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegass13

You said no fuel came out of the sending line when you took it off? I don't think it would squirt out but if you tried priming with it off and none came out then I'd start with the fuel pump

not getting spark either. don't think that'd be the best place to start

Vegass13 · 04-09-2014, 06:44 PM

Why don't you switch your ecu with your friends and see if it's that?

cotbu · 04-09-2014, 06:50 PM

Let you friend borrow your ecu, test it in his car. if it works check over your wiring if it doesn't work, borrow his ecu test it in you car.

Carnifex · 04-09-2014, 06:57 PM

his is a dohc =\ lol i gotta meet peeps out here

Vegass13 · 04-09-2014, 07:02 PM

If you wanna buy mine it's off my 89 sohc and I know it works $40 shipped

Carnifex · 04-09-2014, 07:08 PM

i'll be able to find one here, lol this is my daily so i don't really have time to wait a week for shipping to hopefully fix it.

but i'm not sure if it would be the ecu. I'm thinking it MIGHT be a relay, but i already switched the EGI and EGI pump relays and it didnt make a difference. Going to buy a new one to be sure.

Symptoms of a bad fuel pump, but i'm not getting spark so i'm seriously doubting its the fuel pump, unless all this shit is just getting dumped on me at once lol.

Vegass13 · 04-09-2014, 07:17 PM

I get it and ya I doubt they both go out at the same time haha I would assume it's gotta be whatever powers them both...try using a multimeter on the pinouts for the pump and ignition coil to see if the power is getting sent to the ecu...I'm assuming all the dash lights come on and what not when you put the key in the start position and it's cranking correct?

Carnifex · 04-09-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegass13

I get it and ya I doubt they both go out at the same time haha I would assume it's gotta be whatever powers them both...try using a multimeter on the pinouts for the pump and ignition coil to see if the power is getting sent to the ecu...I'm assuming all the dash lights come on and what not when you put the key in the start position and it's cranking correct?

like the 4 lights that work in this car lol yeah

Vegass13 · 04-09-2014, 07:24 PM

Well see if power is going to the ecu and if it is my best guess would be to try a new ecu

Carnifex · 04-09-2014, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegass13

Well see if power is going to the ecu and if it is my best guess would be to try a new ecu

word. gonna check that relay first

4pegs · 04-12-2014, 07:03 PM

hey man I was wondering if you ever figured out that problem you had? because I'm having the same problem but with a ka24de

Carnifex · 04-12-2014, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 4pegs

hey man I was wondering if you ever figured out that problem you had? because I'm having the same problem but with a ka24de

My 75a engine control fuse was blown. Check that, alt fuse, egi pump relay.
The 10a fuses as well.
Make sure your ecu is getting power turn the key to on and it'll blink in diagnostics mode.
Is your fuel pump priming?

4pegs · 04-12-2014, 07:26 PM

Yeah I've recently have had the fuse blow and already changed that.. and also checked all the fuses in the car.. it turns over but it doesn't start.. but no haven't checked the ECU.. and how would you check for fuel priming? Also how do you put the ECU in diagnostics mode?

Carnifex · 04-12-2014, 07:30 PM

Listen to your fuel pump may when you turn the key to on. Should make a noise for like 5 sec. Check your ecu there's a screw on it turn it to diagnostics mode with the key on. There's a guide for it. If the lights dont blink the ecu isn't getting power. But if the fuel pump primes it probably is

4pegs · 04-12-2014, 07:31 PM

Sick man ill check that out now... ill let you know..

04-09-2014, 06:20 PM	#1
Carnifex Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Auburn WA Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not getting spark/fuel ... ??? Bought this s13 coupe. sohc ka. had a rough idle / ran shitty at low rpms recently the car shit out on me and wouldnt start, cranks but doesnt turn over. at first i thought it was a fuel issue, then i checked the spark. friend let me borrow/test a coil and control module, no difference. took off a fuel line and didn't get any fuel either. tried an ecu diagnostic and lights wouldn't flash.. figured this is either the EGI or a faulty ecu. dont have much experience with this stuff so give me your input. thanks

04-09-2014, 06:50 PM	#7
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 50 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Let you friend borrow your ecu, test it in his car. if it works check over your wiring if it doesn't work, borrow his ecu test it in you car. __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"

04-09-2014, 06:23 PM	#2
Vegass13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 159 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	check your fuses? and if you get it running check the timing...it might help the shitty drive at low rpms

04-09-2014, 06:41 PM	#4
Vegass13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 159 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	You said no fuel came out of the sending line when you took it off? I don't think it would squirt out but if you tried priming with it off and none came out then I'd start with the fuel pump

04-09-2014, 06:44 PM	#6
Vegass13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 159 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Why don't you switch your ecu with your friends and see if it's that?

04-09-2014, 06:57 PM	#8
Carnifex Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Auburn WA Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	his is a dohc =\ lol i gotta meet peeps out here

04-09-2014, 07:02 PM	#9
Vegass13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 159 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	If you wanna buy mine it's off my 89 sohc and I know it works $40 shipped

04-09-2014, 07:08 PM	#10
Carnifex Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Auburn WA Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'll be able to find one here, lol this is my daily so i don't really have time to wait a week for shipping to hopefully fix it. but i'm not sure if it would be the ecu. I'm thinking it MIGHT be a relay, but i already switched the EGI and EGI pump relays and it didnt make a difference. Going to buy a new one to be sure. Symptoms of a bad fuel pump, but i'm not getting spark so i'm seriously doubting its the fuel pump, unless all this shit is just getting dumped on me at once lol.

04-09-2014, 07:17 PM	#11
Vegass13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 159 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I get it and ya I doubt they both go out at the same time haha I would assume it's gotta be whatever powers them both...try using a multimeter on the pinouts for the pump and ignition coil to see if the power is getting sent to the ecu...I'm assuming all the dash lights come on and what not when you put the key in the start position and it's cranking correct?

04-09-2014, 07:24 PM	#13
Vegass13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 159 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Well see if power is going to the ecu and if it is my best guess would be to try a new ecu

04-12-2014, 07:03 PM	#15
4pegs Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: california Age: 36 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hey man I was wondering if you ever figured out that problem you had? because I'm having the same problem but with a ka24de

04-12-2014, 07:26 PM	#17
4pegs Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: california Age: 36 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah I've recently have had the fuse blow and already changed that.. and also checked all the fuses in the car.. it turns over but it doesn't start.. but no haven't checked the ECU.. and how would you check for fuel priming? Also how do you put the ECU in diagnostics mode?

04-12-2014, 07:30 PM	#18
Carnifex Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Auburn WA Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Listen to your fuel pump may when you turn the key to on. Should make a noise for like 5 sec. Check your ecu there's a screw on it turn it to diagnostics mode with the key on. There's a guide for it. If the lights dont blink the ecu isn't getting power. But if the fuel pump primes it probably is

04-12-2014, 07:31 PM	#19
4pegs Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: california Age: 36 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sick man ill check that out now... ill let you know..